2018-2019 UEFA Season Referee Discussion [Rs]

All English finals for UEL and UCL. Is this Kuipers match in Azerbaijan? This could be a make or break game for Arsenal and important match for Chelsea's manager Sarri.

 

I was watching the game with a friend (referee as well) he said 100% red card and I said 100% yellow. With the negligible force being the ticker to downgrade it. Although, the PI on hazard was unreal. I thought Hategan had a shaky run in the closing minutes of each half. At the closing of the 1st half he shouldve blown it dead instead of waiting almost 25 seconds for the Frankfurt player to take his sweet time setting up the corner.

 

No. He had the UEL final for an unprecedented second time last year already. Wouldn’t get it again.

 

Çakir for both.

 

“ we ?”

You mean you and your little tag team partner, celito ??

In that thread you’re both either falling out with people or just calling them trolls ..oh and defending Roberto fgs

 

And we're now at ignore.

 

Interesting take. I watched the first half on a crappy online stream and the second half with a friend on the television. I don't recall to well the Willian challenge. After reviewing the clip I actually agree with your analysis for the 1st Willian tackle. Caution, hard to see mode of contact as well as point of contact but he knows something was there... (I wonder if #11 for Frankfurt partially blocked his view) my thought if Willian stays down does he take a few more seconds to get input from his assistant. As opposed to the fracas of Willian showing his calf.

This is where I disagree with you a bit Mass. I think the Azipilcueta challenge was a darker shade of orange than the Kovacic.
The Kovacic his mode of contact was the top of the shoe maybe toe in-step region. Kovacic point of contact was the inside of the foot with part of the inner ankle. I think he has a reason to be high mostly because the ball is bouncing, however, the amount of speed he comes in for this tackle and the lunging nature could push it to red for me.

The Azpi challenge I am already thinking red with the speed/force he comes in with. Then he has a two-footed tackle. Coupled with zero ability to make a play on the ball (unlike the Kovacic challenge). Like you said the mitigating factor being the contact which at best could be negligible however, the contact is studs to the knee.

I guess for me its the nature of each tackle which shades them differently for me. Azpi's zero ability to make a play on the ball and Kovacic. However, I agree that all of them could be defensible reds.

An observation I would like to make is that both of these challenges were in that danger zone right in front of the technical area. With both challenges (im assuming more so with the Azpi challenge) being called by the 4th.

 

I like to think that all three of these are red in my games. But then there's that real-time, in-the-moment, no video replay thing. Seeing these and similar clips and talking about them helps, a lot, when it comes to that.

 

The concept of SFP has practically gone out of the window at the highest levels of the game. We've gone through a World Cup and two Euros without a straight red for SFP.

When was the last consequential red card in the CL for SFP? Nani by Cakir?

I think VAR will essentially eliminate an on field decision red card.

 

In non-assigning news, Macron's UEFA referee uniforms are now official. They look pretty good in my opinion.

https://www.dutchreferee.com/macron-referee-shirt-uefa-champions-league/

 

When was the last time a back pass was called in the premier league?

Interesting case in the BHA MC match which was more of a deliberate chip by a defender on a bouncing ball about 22 yards out over the head of an attacker straight to the goalkeepers arms.

 

If not Rocchi on EL Final, it has to be Lahoz then? First time in a decade you can practically put a Spanish referee on one of the showpiece matches in Europe.

 

Yes, he's a member of the Valencia referee committee. One thing for sure: he won't be working the Copa del Rey final (May 25, Barcelona vs Valencia).

 

This may be a dumb question, but couldn’t Rocchi’s AR in Poland just fly to Baku for the game? It’s not like the U20 World Cup is halfway around the world from Azerbaijan.

 

2019 UEFA Europa League final refereeing team

Referee: Gianluca Rocchi (Italy)
Assistant Referees: Filippo Meli, Lorenzo Manganelli (Italy)
Fourth official: Daniele Orsato (Italy)
Video Assistant Referee (VAR): Massimiliano Irrati (Italy)
VAR Assistants: Marco Guida (Italy), Szymon Marciniak (Poland)
Offside VAR: Paweł Sokolnicki (Poland)

 

Rocchi’s AR’s during the UCL knockouts have been Meli & Passeri. Manganelli is on Orsato’s team usually.

AR’s aren’t completely stuck to referees in domestic assignments. But the substitute AR isn't even for the one going to the WC!

EDIT: to agree that four VAR's is just a ridiculous amount. What could they all even be doing?