2018-2019 UEFA Season Referee Discussion [Rs]

He stopped the game with an IFK signal though. So he stopped for the flag.

I genuinely don’t think the AAR saw the handling. It was very clear that the 4O got involved, too; I’m guessing he actually had the best angle to the goal line. It seems like they were trying to figure out if there was punishable handling at all.

I genuinely don’t have a clue what the discussions were. If the referee stopped play for offside—and that part seems certain—nothing really makes sense. If the AR had doubts over the veracity of his offside decision, that needed to be cleared up first before dealing with any potential handling. But I suppose in the heat of such a moment, confusion can breed chaos (or maybe it’s chaos breeding confusion).

 

This longer clip on the Van Dijk tackle is interesting.

https://streamable.com/fwsar

First, Skomina appears to miss the foul initially. Feels like AR2 let him know how bad the result was and then Skomina reacts.

Second, you can sort of understand why Skomina misses the severity of the challenge. Despite looking at it, the ball passes behind the tackled player, likely obscuring the point of contact.

I think it’s red. Maybe a little shy of 100% red. When you account for that little doubt and then add in the circumstances around the challenge and the match, you can see why yellow is the result.

 

Exactly. No way.

And the irony is that Van Dijk's own misinformed comments--where he asserts his challenge was fair--are precisely the reason why VAR doesn't intervene. A portion of the soccer world not only believes this isn't red, some still believe it's not a foul. When you have that sort of discrepancy, the "clearly wrong" standard just isn't met.

 

Maybe this one gets red via VAR? Maybe.

https://streamable.com/y9wwa

 

Turpin has apparently given two SFP red cards in Ajax-Bayern--a match where both teams have already progressed. I'm excited to see video here...

 

Here's short video of the Bayern red, which was the second one. Oof.

😵 Thomas Müller, a kind and nonchalant chap, has just absolutely clattered Tagliafico and was sent off immediately.

He can have absolutely no complaints... #AJXBAYhttps://t.co/z54ENftN2U

— On The Continent (@otcpod) December 12, 2018

 

It was blocked with a deliberate hand/arm. So, yes. The decision is that advantage is applied on the handling and the goal is the final result since a deliberate play wipes out any offside.

Now, did the referee team all know in the heat of the moment that that was their call? Probably not. But they allowed play to go forward, which is the right move. Then they could piece everything together and realize it’s a good goal.

I’ve been reading Turpin did very well in this game. So far all the highlights seem to indicate so. His stock is skyrocketing.

 

Here’s the first SFP, which is like Van Dijk but without the touch on the ball and more of a launching start: https://streamable.com/xzz8n

Longer clip of the Muller send off: https://streamable.com/wv2l8

And here’s a longer clip of the last goal: https://streamable.com/wfsnj

With all the focus on the confrontation post-goal, you never see if or how the team discusses the offside issue. You can catch out of the corner of the frame, however, a delay from the AR. So it’s not like OSP wasn’t discussed here. Whether or not they allowed the goal because it was handling, as I asserted, is impossible to determine from this clip. If they didn’t have handling, that makes the call more dubious.

Either way, I think Turpin is about to have a huge 2019.

 

Manchester United : PSG - ORSATO (ITA)
Roma : Porto - MAKKELIE (NED)

Irrati and Van Boekel are VARs, so no international pairings in the first set. Fourths are back to being CRs; AARs gone, as advertised.