Its about a cycle past these guys playing for the U-20's, I think it'd be interesting to evaluate where we think the career's of these players are going. Its a good cycle if a few of these guys are regular contributors to the National Team. Almost Certainly Regular NT contributors: Adams and Sargent Potentially Regular NT contributors: Klinsman, Palmer-Brown, Carter-Vickers, Probably a cap or two with the NT: Glad, Trusty, D. Acosta, De La Torre Possibly a cap or two with the NT: Sabbi, Ebobisse, Lennon Long shots to get a single NT cap: Scott, Jones, Zelalem (at least another), Saucedo, Scott Might be out of the sport in five years: Redding, Williamson, Marcinowski, Kunga, Herrera
Or to lower it. Did anyone (think to) ask the new coach of the MNT if he had given any thought to the U-23's, the 2020 Olympic team, etc?
Interesting you have Marcinowski so low. I thought he has been quite good for a bad San Jose team this past season. I think he was good according to the advanced analytics of keepers too: https://www.americansocceranalysis.com/keeper-xg-2018/ I know keeper stats are still being fully fleshed out and such, but I think we can hope he only gets better. I am willing to bet he starts for SJ next year over Tarbell who did not have a good season at all (statistically the worst keeper in the league). I also understand that these stats aren't everything, so grain of salt and such.
I think that is all on hold until they see if CONMEBOL can get the Copa America changed to 2020 and even years. If they do and the best U23 players are sent there with the senior team (7-8 guys), many of this last cycle's other U20 players will have a shot at the Olympics. Along with other guys from this current U20 cycle. The U23 talent is starting to pile up!
The catergories lack what i think will be a new one: Former college players who can probably make more money outside of soccer so will then leave, like Brandon Vincent. I think Marcinowski could be a backup, sometime MLS starter or USL GK for five years. Especially with expansion. Just think he will finish whatever degree at Georgetown and move on.
Marcinkowski started 5 of the Quakes last 6 games and the fans liked him much more than Andrew Tarbell. He's also the youngest used keeper in the league, and makes 132k a year on his "rookie" contract. I doubt he leaves the game.
- Hard to see Herrera out of the sport in five years given the minutes he has already accumulated. - Kunga showed real progress by the end of the season with ATL2, so he might still have a decent career. - Klinsmann should probably move down a peg given his competition - Almost Certain Contributors would include McKennie and Pulisic, who are in the pool but were not on the roster. When was the last time our U20s had to leave players off the World Cup squad because they were already deemed past that level? - The pool also includes Wright, Taitague, Fossey, and a couple others who were either injured, not released, or not called, but were in the picture at the time. - The pool also included Jonathan Gonzalez......
Almost Certainly Regular NT contributors: Palmer-Brown, Adams, Acosta, Sargent and Glad Potentially Regular NT contributors: Carter-Vickers, Trusty Probably a cap or two with the NT: De La Torre, Sabbi, Ebobisse, Lennon Possibly a cap or two with the NT: Zelalem, Saucedo, B. Scott Long shots to get a single NT cap: Jones, K. Scott, Marcinkowski, Klinsmann, Herrera Might be out of the sport in five years: Redding, Williamson, Kunga This was a very talented team. I think we'll see about 3-4 starters off of this team, and at least a few other players who play regular roles. There should also be a couple who get regular caps. Just to give some perspective on what we saw from the 2013 and 2015 teams: 2013: 4 contributors, 3-4 starters. 2015: 10 still in the NT picture to differing degrees, 2-3 starters
Acosta really concerns me. While everyone is hyping a farcical Atlanta parade/partying event the only LB in the whole system with a clear NT potential is getting black balled by dim-witted Petke.
I'd like to think that the players with the best ability will earn their NT spot eventually. Some get easier club situations than others to start out their careers. The players with the most ability usually end up the best players.
I think people are putting way too many players as almost certain regular contributors and way too few as potential contributors. I can see a potential NT regular in a lot of the players. There are only 1 or 2 I can be certain of. Almost Certainly Regular NT contributors: Adams, Sargent Potentially Regular NT contributors: Klinsmann, Glad, Ebobisse, Lennon, Carter-Vickers, Palmer-Brown, Trusty Probably a cap or two with the NT: Acosta, Saucedo, Sabbi, De La Torre Possibly a cap or two with the NT: Zelalem, Herrera Long shots to get a single NT cap: Jones, B. Scott, Marcinkowski, Might be out of the sport in five years: Redding, Williamson, Kunga This was a very talented team. I think we'll see about 3-4 starters off of this team, and at least a few other players who play regular roles. There should also be a couple who get regular caps. Just to give some perspective on what we saw from the 2013 and 2015 teams: 2013: 4 contributors, 3-4 starters. 2015: 10 still in the NT picture to differing degrees, 2-3 starters
From my perspective, EPB has always been great defensively, but had a ways to go with the ball at his feet. Hopefully that has improved over the last season and a half, but seeing Richards play with the ball really makes me wonder how far apart those two are now even though EPB has quite a bit of experience on Richards. Glad is going to need a serious bounce back season next year to get anywhere close to the potential that he once showed. Even if he is going to get back to a top MLS level, he will need to replicate that form in a bigger league if he is to be a regular for the US.
Bello’s ceiling is far higher than Acosta’s and I think Danny’s potential is pretty good to begin with.
I think Bello has a higher ceiling, but I don't agree that its far higher. Bello gets hyped up by some fans as if he's Marcelo 2.0. He has parts of the game to improve on. He commits a lot of turnovers for a defender, and he struggles with positioning. Those aren't things that'll likely keep him from becoming a very good player eventually, but some fans are already saying he should be called into the NT and that he might be our best LB already (or close to it).
Bello is being monitored by the biggest clubs in Europe and he’s 5 years younger than Acosta. Every MLS and Euro scout would laugh in your face if you took Acosta over Bello. At 16 y/o, nobody knew Danny Acosta existed and he was also playing CM for the RSL academy at that time. Bello vs Acosta at both 16 y/o is so unfair to Acosta that we shouldn’t even talk about . Again your awful fandom of certain players blinds you so much.
Thats ironic because you are the one who is using over-excessive hype. I'm merely saying Bello is not some prodigy who is a sure international star, like the reputation some of you give him. You of course didn't address any of what I said because that goes against this narrative some put out there about Bello. These people never want to address that. I didn't even claim I prefer Acosta to Bello, but you seem to have missed that in your rage. Potential is not all about who is better as a 16 year old. Players develop at different ages. Some regress, some improve. No one is arguing Acosta is better than Bello at 16. Thats besides the point of their current potential, given Acosta isn't 16, and he's improved a lot.
Acosta and Carleton are now both in similar boats where we don't know much about supposed transgressions but both are being punished by their coaches / teams. Could be huge red flags or their coaches could be doing them enormous favors in the future or the coaches are being jerks and over reacting. Will be easier to tell with Carleton since Atlanta will have a new coaching staff. Acosta will have the same coach so if he's still in the doghouse a trade or release may be in order.