2017 US Open Cup qualifying thread

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  1. newtex

    newtex Member+

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    Someone asked about this week and I said there wasn't much news yet. But now there is. Or at least some discussion about the process from TheCup.US

    http://thecup.us/2016/05/02/ussfs-n...ess-has-challenges-to-address-after-year-one/

    Basically, three issues have been brought up based on how the qualifying tournament worked for this year.

    1. Travel - having a national tournament with uneven participation has led to a lot of travel for teams that can't afford it.

    2. Roster rules - having to set a roster pretty early in the fall that will be mostly consistent through the next year is difficult for amateur teams.

    3. PDL/NPSL advantage - the roster deadlines mean that teams attempting to qualify through the tournament can't really use college players. PDL and NPSL teams qualify through league play so they can.

    It will be interesting to see what changes the USSF might implement for this fall's tournament.
     
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  2. msilverstein47

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    http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/201...ocal-qualifying-for-2017-us-open-cup-underway

    CHICAGO (May 11, 2016) – U.S. Soccer has announced that the application process for entering Open Division local qualifying for the 2017 Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup, U.S. Soccer’s annual national club championship open to all member amateur and professional soccer teams, is now underway. The entry deadline for local qualifying is Aug. 1, 2016, at 2 p.m. CT.
    The 2017 qualifying process was first introduced for the 2016 competition, with 56 teams entering from 16 different states and 25 different leagues. Fourteen local qualifiers survived to reach the first round of the 2016 Open Cup, scheduled to take place later today.
     
  3. SJJ

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  4. SJJ

    SJJ Member

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    #4 SJJ, Jul 10, 2016
    Last edited: Jul 10, 2016
    With the PDL regular season winding down, we can start penciling in the division winners:

    Fresno Fuego (Western Conference, Central Pacific Division)

    Des Moines Menace (Central Conference, Heartland Division)
    May put a bit of an asterisk here. The only team that can beat them in the standings is the Thunder Bay Chill, who of course are not eligible. So you would guess that the bid would go to the top American side.

    (In the previous year's thread, I stated that is a bit unfair for Central teams to have games with Canadian sides to count in the process; and all "drop-down" spots should remove Canadian games.)

    Michigan Bucks (Central Conference, Great Lakes Division)
    Similarly, the only team that can beat them in the standings is K-W United

    Sounders FC U23 (Western Conference, Northwest Division)
    Same deal; the only team that can beat them in the standings is Calgary Foothills.
     
  5. SJJ

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    Reading United AC (Eastern Conference, Mid Atlantic Division), after yesterday's win
     
  6. SJJ

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    #6 SJJ, Jul 14, 2016
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    FC Tucson (Western Conference, Southwest Division), after yesterday's win

    p.s. Des Moines Menace have outright won their division.

    The NPSL gives their first eight bids to their playoff quarterfinalists. So their first bids will come this weekend: http://www.npsl.com/page/show/2164217-2016-playoffs

    South Region Semi-Finals
    Miami United FC -v- Atlanta Silverbacks, 7/16/2016, 7:00 PM, Milander Park
    Chattanooga FC -v- Dutch Lions FC, 7/16/2016, 7:30 PM, Finley Stadium

    West Region Semi-Finals
    Albion SC Pros -v- OSA FC, 7/16/2016 7:00 PM (PT?), Mission Bay High School
    Sonoma County Sol -v- North County Battalion, 7/16/2016, 7:30 PM (PT?), Santa Rosa HS
     
  7. SJJ

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    #7 SJJ, Jul 17, 2016
    Last edited: Jul 17, 2016
    PDL:

    Charlotte Eagles (Eastern Conference, South Atlantic Division)

    OKC Energy U23 (Southern Conference, Mid South Division)

    The Villages SC (Southern Conference, Southeast Division)

    p.s. Michigan Bucks have outright clinched the #1 record in the PDL. Calgary Foothills FC have clinched the division over Sounders FC U23, so it will be seen if the bid will automatically go to the best USA-based team, if they are not a division winner.

    still to be decided: Eastern Conference, Northeast Division:
    Western Mass Pioneers -v- GPS Portland Phoenix, Deering High School, 6:00 PM EDT



    First four NPSL bids: http://www.npsl.com/page/show/2164217-2016-playoffs

    South Region Finals: July 23 (make up date July 24)
    Miami United (#3) @ Chattanooga FC (#1)

    West Region Finals: July 23 (make up date July 24)
    Sonoma County Sol (#4) @ Albion SC Pros (#1)

    next bids come on Wednesday:

    New York Cosmos B -v- Legacy 76, 07/20/2016, 07:30 PM, David S Mack Sports Complex

    Clarkstown Eagles -v- New Jersey Copa FC, 07/20/2016,05:00 PM, Ramapo College
     
  8. EvanJ

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    I went to Hofstra University. The Cosmos and their B team play at Hofstra's James M. Shuart Stadium. The Mack Sports Complex is an indoor venue used for basketball and has hosted a presidential debate. I'm not blaming you because the Cosmos's own website has the location wrong, but I want to point out that the venue I quoted from you is incorrect.
     
  9. SJJ

    SJJ Member

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    OK, Evan, that location on from the NPSL playoffs page, and you can also download the schedule to a CSV file. (So maybe we can just decide Trump -v- Clinton on Wednesday and not have to worry about the next four months.)

    (And I've been tracking these qualifiers, which admittedly are provisional until USSoccer puts out a formal listing, and the only reply I've got is a site correction?)
     
  10. SJJ

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    #10 SJJ, Jul 17, 2016
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    GPS Portland Phoenix (Eastern Conference, Northeast Division)

    The top ten PDL seeds (If the PDL is given less than ten seeds, they would come in this order):

    SeedConferenceDivisionTeamTeamPTSW+/-GF
    1CentralGreat LakesMichigan BucksMIC36123845
    2WesternSouthwestFC Tucson TUC35112638
    3EasternSouth AtlanticCharlotte EaglesCLT34112634
    4CentralHeartlandDes Moines MenaceDMM32103037
    5EasternMid AtlanticReading United ACREA31102335
    6SouthernMid SouthOKC Energy U23OKC31101833
    7WesternCentral PacificFresno FuegoFRS30101223
    8SouthernSoutheastThe Villages SCVSC2991937
    9EasternNortheastGPS Portland PhoenixGPS2991636
    10WesternNorthwestSounders FC U23 (second in their division)SFC248521
     
  11. SJJ

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    #11 SJJ, Jul 21, 2016
    Last edited: Jul 21, 2016
    Two more from the NPSL:

    Clarkstown Eagles [1-0] Legacy 76
    New York Cosmos B [0-1] New Jersey Copa FC

    And thecup.us chimes in:
    PDL: http://thecup.us/2016/07/18/which-pdl-teams-will-qualify-for-the-2017-us-open-cup/
    NPSL: http://thecup.us/2016/07/18/which-npsl-teams-will-qualify-for-the-2017-us-open-cup/

    Both articles can only speculate how many teams from each league will get in, but I'm wondering if expansion in the pro leagues will cause less amateur teams to get in. (I think this will become even more of an issue in 2018.) So the possibilities would be (a) fewer amateur teams in the first round, or (b) re-instating the "preliminary" round for amateurs. In case (a), that could mean (a.1) less teams from each league, or (a.2) PDL and NPSL stays pretty much the same, and reductions come from the Open qualifying (say, one more round).

    P.S. Cosmos-B is a pro team, now? (This is what is stated in the NPSL article above.)
     
  12. newtex

    newtex Member+

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    I'm skeptical that we will see a reduction of amateur teams. That has not been the trend.

    Pro expansion that we know of for 2017:
    MLS -Atlanta and maybe Minnesota (18 or 19 teams)
    NASL - San Francisco but possibly losing Minnesota (9 or 10 teams)
    USL - Reno (18 teams)

    So that is a net increase of 3 pro teams. There could be more but those are all that have been announced. Any more new USL teams are likely to be MLS2 so they don't count at this point. I guess Austin could come back on relatively short notice. At this point it is hard to see the NASL adding any more for the 2017. Especially that would start in the Spring season and thereby be eligible for the Open Cup.

    2018 could be a bigger increase but we only know about 2 more teams for sure right now (LAFC and Nashville). The NASL is talking about adding a bunch of teams but none of that has been announced yet.

    Any reduction of amateur teams would probably be back to the 8 teams coming out of the amateur qualifying tournament instead of the 14 that they wound up letting in.
     
  13. newtex

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    Cosmos-B has always been a pro team. It functions as a reserve team for the NASL team and at least some of the players are under pro contracts with the NASL team.

    I believe that most of the NASL-controlled teams in the NPSL are pro teams except for Indy Eleven NPSL.
     
  14. SJJ

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    Last two auto-bids for the NPSL:

    AFC Cleveland [0-0, 4-2 pk's] Ann Arbor
    Grand Rapids FC [1-0] Indy Eleven NPSL
     
  15. msilverstein47

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    #15 msilverstein47, Aug 18, 2016
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    http://thecup.us/2016/08/17/2017-us...-sept-10-with-64-open-division-amateur-teams/

    2017 Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup Open Division Local Qualifying Schedule

    First Qualifying Round

    Date Game Time/Result Venue
    Sept. 10
    Brick Lions FC (N.J.)
    at
    Vereinigung Erzgebirge (Pa.)
    2:30 p.m. ET Vereinigung Erzgebirge; Warminster, Pa.

    Sept. 10
    Dulles Sportsplex Aegean Hawks FC (Md.)
    at
    Christos FC (Md.)
    7 p.m. ET Troy Park; Elkridge, Md.

    Sept. 10
    Rising Stars FC (Pa.)
    at
    Junior Lone Star FC (Pa.)
    7 p.m. ET Monsingnor Bonner High School; Drexel Hill, Pa.

    Sept. 10
    Salone FC (Pa.)
    at
    West Chester United SC (Pa.)
    7:30 p.m. ET West Chester United SC Turf Field; West Chester, Pa.

    Sept. 10
    New York Pancyprian Freedoms (N.Y.)
    at
    Lansdowne Bhoys (N.Y.)
    8 p.m. ET Tibbetts Brooke Park; Yonkers, N.Y.

    Sept. 11
    Newtown Pride FC (Conn.)
    at
    Newport FC (R.I.)
    9:30 a.m. ET Gardiner Seveney Field; Portsmouth, R.I.

    Sept. 11
    GPS Omens (Mass.)
    at
    Southie FC (Mass.)
    12 p.m. ET Madison Park; Roxbury Crossing, Mass.

    Sept. 11
    New York Greek American SC (N.Y.)
    at
    FC Motown (N.J.)
    7 p.m. ET Athenia Steel Park; Clifton, N.J.

    Sept. 17
    Davis Legacy (Calif.)
    at
    El Farolito (Calif.)
    11 a.m. PT Boxer Stadium; San Francisco, Calif.

    Sept. 17
    Ann Arbor FC (Mich.)
    at
    Oakland County FC (Mich.)
    6 p.m. ET Stoney Creek High School; Rochester Hills, Mich.

    Sept. 17
    Moreno Valley Fútbol Club (Calif.)
    at
    HD Rush FC (Calif.)
    3 p.m. PT University Preparatory School; Victorville, Calif.

    Sept. 17
    Colorado Rovers (Colo.)
    at
    Harpo’s FC (Colo.)
    5 p.m. MT Dicks Sporting Goods Park; Commerce City, Colo.

    Sept. 17
    Celtic Cowboys Premier (Texas)
    at
    NTX Rayados (Texas)
    7:30 p.m. CT Richland College; Dallas, Texas

    Sept. 17
    Azteca FC (Colo.)
    at
    FC Denver (Colo.)
    6:30 p.m. MT Aurora Sports Park; Aurora, Colo.

    Sept. 17
    Del Rey City Soccer Club (Calif.)
    at
    FC Hasental (Calif.)
    7 p.m. PT Chaminade College Preparatory; Canoga Park, Calif.

    Sept. 17
    Orange County FC (Calif.)
    at
    La Máquina FC (Calif.)
    7 p.m. PT Westminster High School; Westminster, Calif.

    Sept. 17
    Avalanche USA FC (Calif.)
    at
    Inland Empire FC (Calif.)
    7:30 p.m. PT Rancho Jurupa Regional Sports Park; Jurupa Valley, Calif.

    Sept. 17
    OC Crew Soccer Club (Calif.)
    at
    Ozzy’s Laguna FC (Calif.)
    8 p.m. PT Santa Ana Stadium; Santa Ana, Calif.

    Sept. 18
    Outbreak FC (Calif.)
    at
    Buena Park FC (Calif.)
    11 a.m. PT John F. Kennedy High School; La Palma, Calif.

    Sept. 18
    Hurricane FC (Fla.)
    at
    Miami Dade FC (Fla.)
    3 p.m. ET Tropical Park Stadium; Miami, Fla.

    Sept. 18
    Red Force FC (Fla.)
    at
    Miami Nacional Soccer Club (Fla.)
    4 p.m. ET Lauderhill Sports Complex; Lauderhill, Fla.

    Sept. 18
    FC Boulder (Colo.)
    at
    Colorado Rush (Colo.)
    3 p.m. MT Addenbrooke Soccer Complex; Lakewood, Colo.

    Sept. 18
    L.A. Wolves FC (Calif.)
    at
    Real Sociedad Royals (Calif.)
    4:30 p.m. PT St. John Bosco Football Stadium; Bellflower, Calif.

    Sept. 18
    Valley United SC (Calif.)
    at
    SFV Scorpions SC (Calif.)
    5 p.m. PT Alemony High School; Mission Hills, Calif.

    Sept. 18
    AC Brea Steaua (Calif.)
    at
    Strikers FC South Coast (Calif.)
    6:30 p.m. PT Lake Forest Sports Park; Lake Forest, Calif.

    Sept. 18
    Chula Vista FC (Calif.)
    at
    Frontera United (Ariz.)
    7 p.m. MST Desert Sun Stadium; Yuma, Ariz.

    Sept. 18
    Las Vegas High Rollers SC (Nev.)
    at
    Anahuac FC (Nev.)
    7 p.m. PT Sports Park; Las Vegas, Nev.

    Sept. 18
    La Habra City FC (Calif.)
    at
    Santa Ana Winds FC (Calif.)
    7:30 p.m. PT Lake Forest Sports Park; Lake Forest, Calif.
     
  16. SJJ

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  17. msilverstein47

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    TheCup.us ‏@usopencup 10h10 hours ago
    #USOC2017 qualifying scores (9/11)
    @GPS_Omens 4:2 @SouthieFC
    @juniorlonestar 5:1 Rising Stars
    @FCMotown1 W:L (FORFEIT) NY Greek American SC

    TheCup.us ‏@usopencup 11h11 hours ago
    #USOC2017 qualifying:
    @Lansdownebhoys come back to beat rival Freedoms in OT
    http://ow.ly/jFoP3046TcC

    TheCup.us ‏@usopencup 21h21 hours ago
    #USOC2017 qualifying:
    @WCUSC hold off @SALONEFC to win Philly-area rematch
    http://ow.ly/G1Xy3046ly3

    TheCup.us ‏@usopencup 22h22 hours ago
    #USOC2017 Qualifying - 9/10
    @LionsFC_TR 5:2 @VEClub
    @ChristosFC 3:1 (OT) Aegean Hawks
     
  18. msilverstein47

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  19. msilverstein47

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    TheCup.us
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    7m
    For fans of #USOC2017 qualifying, today is a good day:
    10 games.
    First starts at 2pm ET, then kickoffs are spread out (2, 4, 5, 7, 9, 10)
     
  20. msilverstein47

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    #21 msilverstein47, Sep 20, 2016
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    http://thecup.us/2016/09/19/2017-us-open-cup-qualifying-schedule-results/

    QUALIFYING ROUND 2 AWAY TEAM TIME (ET) HOME TEAM VENUE
    Oct. 16
    West Chester United (EAST PA)
    10:30am
    Christos FC (MD) Troy Park
    Elkridge, MD

    Oct. 16
    GPS Omens (MA)
    2:00
    Newtown Pride SC (CT)
    Newtown High School – Newtown, CT

    Oct. 16
    Aromas Cafe FC (DC/VA)
    4:30
    Tartan Devils Oak Avalon (WEST PA)
    Rooney Field – Pittsburgh, PA

    Oct. 16
    Lansdowne Bhoys FC (EAST NY)
    7:00
    FC Motown (NJ)
    Central Park Turf Field – Morris Plains, NJ

    Oct. 22
    Oakland County FC (MI)
    3:30
    Minneapolis City SC (MN)
    National Sports Center (Field U2) – Blaine, MN

    Oct. 22
    Azteca FC (CO)
    5:00
    Harpo’s FC (CO)
    Dick’s Sporting Goods Park (Field 8) – Commerce City, CO

    Oct. 22
    Junior Lone Star (EAST PA)
    7:00
    Brick Lions FC (NJ)
    Pinewood Park – Brick, NJ

    Oct. 22
    Boca Raton FC (FL)
    7:00
    Hurricane FC (FL)
    Tradewinds Park (Field 3) – Coconut Creek, FL

    Oct. 22
    CD Motagua of New Orleans (LA)
    8:30
    North Texas Rayados (NORTH TX)
    Richland College – Dallas, TX

    Oct. 22
    Ozzy’s Laguna FC (SOUTH CA)
    9:00
    Moreno Valley FC (SOUTH CA)
    Moreno Valley Community Park – Moreno Valley, CA

    Oct. 22
    Colorado Rush (CO)
    10:00
    IPS/Marathon Taverna (OR)
    Delta Park – Portland, OR

    Oct. 22
    Chula Vista FC (SOUTH CA)
    10:00
    FC Hasental (SOUTH CA)
    Chaminade College Prep – Canoga Park, CA

    Oct. 22
    Santa Ana Winds FC (SOUTH CA)
    10:00
    La Maquina (SOUTH CA)
    Westminster High School – Westminster, CA

    Oct. 23
    Red Force FC (FL)
    7:00
    Uruguay Kendall FC (FL)
    Tropical Park Stadium – Miami, FL

    Oct. 23
    Outbreak FC (SOUTH CA)
    8:00
    SFV Scorpions SC (SOUTH CA)
    Alemany High School – Mission Hills, CA

    Oct. 23
    El Farolito (NORTH CA)
    9:30
    Strikers FC South Coast (SOUTH CA)
    Lake Forest Sports Park (Field A) – Lake Forest, CA

    Oct. 23
    MF 10 (NV)
    10:00
    Anahuac FC (NV)
    Las Vegas Sportspark – Las Vegas, NV

    Oct. 23
    Los Angeles Wolves (SOUTH CA)
    10:30
    Inland Empire FC (SOUTH CA)
    Rancho Jurupa Regional Park – Jurupa Valley, CA
     
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  21. Owen Thornhill

    Dec 22, 2012
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    Cork City
    Will they travel or forfeit? Last year a Colorado team refused to travel to Portland.
     
  22. msilverstein47

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    TheCup.us ‏@usopencup Sep 19
    Biggest #USOC2017 qualifying trips (Rd 2):
    @ColoradoRush to Portland, OR (~1,250 mi)
    &
    @OaklandCountyFC (Detroit) to @mplscitysc (~700 mi)
     
  23. Owen Thornhill

    Dec 22, 2012
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  24. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

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    I'm saying that they might need to set up a GoFundMe page just to pay for the gas...lol
     

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