2017 U.S. Open Cup schedule

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  1. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2017...-round-draw-be-streamed-live-thursday-june-15

    The draw for the rest of the tournament will be streamed on the USSF facebook page at 11 am ET.

    https://www.facebook.com/officialussoccer/?sw_fnr_id=3437270790

    The Groups have already been determined:

    EAST REGION
    1. D.C. United
    2. New England Revolution
    3. New York Red Bulls
    4. Philadelphia Union
    CENTRAL REGION
    1. Colorado Rapids
    2. FC Dallas
    3. Houston Dynamo
    4. Sporting Kansas City
    SOUTH REGION
    1. Atlanta United
    2. Chicago Fire
    3. FC Cincinnati (USL)
    4. Miami FC (NASL)
    WEST REGION
    1. LA Galaxy
    2. Sacramento Republic FC (USL)
    3. San Jose Earthquakes
    4. Seattle Sounders
     
  2. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    The Bracket for the Round of 16 (June 27/28) and Quarterfinals (July 11/12):

    Teams higher will host.

    EAST
    New England
    DC United
    ------------------
    NY Red Bulls
    Philadelphia

    SOUTH
    Miami FC
    Atlanta
    -------------
    Cincinnati
    Chicago

    CENTRAL
    Houston
    Kansas City
    ----------------
    Dallas
    Colorado

    WEST
    San Jose
    Seattle
    ------------
    LA Galaxy
    Sacramento
     
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  3. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Country:
    United States
  4. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    U.S. Open Cup

    5th Round:

    Home team first, times are ET

    Tuesday, June 27
    FC Dallas (MLS) v. Colorado Rapids (MLS) 8:00 pm

    Wednesday, June 28
    Houston Dynamo (MLS) v. Sporting Kansas City (MLS) 6:30 pm
    New England Revolution (MLS) v. DC United (MLS) 7:30 pm
    New York Red Bulls (MLS) v. Philadelphia Union (MLS) 7:30 pm
    Miami FC (NASL) v. Atlanta United (MLS) 7:30 pm
    FC Cincinnati (USL) v. Chicago Fire (MLS) 7:30 pm
    San Jose Earthquakes (MLS) v. Seattle Sounders (MLS) 10:30 pm
    LA Galaxy (MLS) v. Sacramento Republic (USL) 10:30 pm

    The quarterfinals are July 7-16.
     
  5. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Country:
    United States
  6. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Country:
    United States
  7. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
  8. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Country:
    United States
    new kickoff time...

    New York Red Bulls vs. Philadelphia Union
    Wednesday, June 28
    8PM ET
    Red Bull Arena, Harrison, N.J.
     
  9. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    U.S. Open Cup

    5th Round:

    Home team first, times are ET

    Tuesday result:

    Tuesday, June 27
    FC Dallas (MLS) 3-1 Colorado Rapids (MLS)

    Wednesday, June 28
    Houston Dynamo (MLS) v. Sporting Kansas City (MLS) 6:30 pm
    New England Revolution (MLS) v. DC United (MLS) 7:30 pm
    Miami FC (NASL) v. Atlanta United (MLS) 7:30 pm
    FC Cincinnati (USL) v. Chicago Fire (MLS) 8:00 pm ESPN
    New York Red Bulls (MLS) v. Philadelphia Union (MLS) 8:00 pm
    San Jose Earthquakes (MLS) v. Seattle Sounders (MLS) 10:30 pm
    LA Galaxy (MLS) v. Sacramento Republic (USL) 10:30 pm

    The quarterfinals are July 7-16.
     
  10. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Country:
    United States
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  11. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Country:
    United States
  12. aperfectring

    aperfectring Member+

    Jul 13, 2011
    Hillsboro, OR
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Here's the latest update of my ever popular* league ELO rankings.

    *not at all true

    Some basic info, for those who want it:
    1. These rankings use all USOC games since 1996 to determine the relative strengths of the leagues. The names used below just represent the current names of leagues at that level. In reality the leagues have changed around a lot, and what is now NASL used to be USL D-1, and the A League before it. Similarly for all the other levels.
    2. There are bound to be mistakes back in the history, but the beauty of ELO rankings is that they are self-correcting over time, so the "actual strengths" probably aren't too far off from this right now, even with errors in older competitions.
    3. The actual results used are as follows:
    a. Game finishes in regulation with a result: goals scored
    b. Game finishes after extra time with a result: goals scored
    c. Game goes to penalty kicks: goals scored before the penalty kicks. The game is "recorded" as a tie.
    4. A home team has its rating raised by 100, and the change in ratings for each of the teams is calculated based on the result of the game, and the relative difference between the two ratings. This means that currently, we would expect an NASL team hosting an MLS team to be slightly in favor of the MLS team, but not significantly so.
    5. The average change in score for any individual game is about 7. This means that one league goes up by 7, and the other down by 7.
    6. There is no way to account for the fact that many MLS teams play 'B' or 'C' sides in the first few rounds they participate. I can only base it on the teams fielded.

    2017 Note: Based on earlier discussions, I will keep NASL and USL separate for this year. Once we see how sanctioning for these leagues goes, a final decision about their future representation in these numbers will be made.

    RoundMLSNASLUSLPDLNPSLUSASA/etc
    2016179816091575137112891358
    2017 R1179816091575136512981354
    2017 R2179816031608136312841344
    2017 R3179816231606134112841348
    2017 R4178716321609134112841347
    2017 R5178116401607134112841346


    A USL and an NASL team survive the round, only to face each other next round. However, that means that there will be a lower division team at least until the Semifinals. The NASL win at home is worth slightly more than the average change in a USOC game. With current ratings, the MLS team should still have been a favorite even at an NASL game, but not by a lot. As far as the USL games, a draw at home is in fact a slight positive for them, due to the disparity in rankings, but their loss on the road is still a loss, giving them an overall pretty negligible drop for the round.

    USL could close the gap a decent bit, or NASL could widen it some. MLS will stay constant, since MLS teams only face each other.
     
  13. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Country:
    United States
    Home teams have advanced in 54 of 91 ties this tournament (59%), including 20 of the last 24 (83%).

    Even with the two upsets tonight, MLS has still advanced 11 of 16 times against lower division clubs (69%, in line with historical average).

    Miami and Cincinnati pulled off the 81st and 82nd all-time upset of an MLS team by a lower-division team, but only the ninth and tenth in the last three years. If someone's going to make it 83, it'll be in the semis.
     
  14. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    U.S. Open Cup

    5th Round results

    Tuesday, June 27
    FC Dallas (MLS) 3-1 Colorado Rapids (MLS)

    Wednesday, June 28
    Houston Dynamo (MLS) 0-2 Sporting Kansas City (MLS)
    New England Revolution (MLS) 2-1 DC United (MLS)
    Miami FC (NASL) 3-2 Atlanta United (MLS)
    FC Cincinnati (USL) 0-0 (pks 3-1) Chicago Fire (MLS)
    New York Red Bulls (MLS) 1-1 (pks 5-3) Philadelphia Union (MLS)
    San Jose Earthquakes (MLS) 2-1 Seattle Sounders (MLS)
    LA Galaxy (MLS) 2-0 Sacramento Republic (USL)


    5th round:
    Home teams went 7-1 on advancement.

    Advancement by affiliation:
    NASL 1-0
    USL 1-1
    MLS 6-7

    NOTE: There were 5 MLS/MLS games. Without those MLS went 1-2 against other leagues.

    Overall for the tournament:
    Home teams went 55-36 on advancement.

    Advancement by affiliation:
    NASL 9-4
    USL 28-17
    MLS 19-13
    PDL 15-21
    Local Qualifiers 12-18
    NPSL 8-17
     
  15. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    U.S. Open Cup

    Quarterfinals

    Home team first, times are ET

    Monday, July 10
    San Jose Earthquakes (MLS) v. LA Galaxy (MLS) 10:30 pm

    Tuesday, July 11
    Sporting Kansas City (MLS) v. FC Dallas (MLS) 8:30 pm

    Wednesday, July 12
    Miami FC (NASL) v. FC Cincinnati (USL) 7:30 pm

    Thursday, July 13
    New England Revolution (MLS) v. NY Red Bulls (MLS) 7:30 pm

    The semifinals are August 8-9
     
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  16. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Country:
    United States
    Divisions vs. Divisions (W-L-T-Adv)

    USSSA
    -----
    0-1-0-0 v NPSL
    0-1-0-0 v PDL
    0-2-0-0 TOTAL

    USASA
    -----
    1-1-0-1 v USASA
    4-2-1-5 v NPSL
    4-4-2-5 v PDL
    1-6-0-1 v USL
    0-1-0-0 v MLS
    10-14-3-12 TOTAL

    NPSL
    ----
    1-0-0-1 v USSSA
    2-1-1-2 v USASA
    3-5-3-5 v PDL
    0-4-1-0 v USL
    0-1-0-0 v NASL
    6-14-5-8 TOTAL

    PDL
    ---
    1-0-0-1 v USSSA
    4-4-2-5 v USASA
    5-3-3-6 v NPSL
    1-7-1-1 v USL
    2-3-0-2 v NASL
    13-17-6-15 TOTAL

    USL
    ---
    6-1-0-6 v USASA
    4-0-1-5 v NPSL
    7-1-1-8 v PDL
    3-3-2-4 v USL
    2-3-0-2 v NASL
    2-8-1-3 v MLS
    24-16-5-28 TOTAL

    NASL
    ----
    1-0-0-1 v NPSL
    3-2-0-3 v PDL
    3-2-0-3 v USL
    2-2-0-2 v MLS
    9-6-0-9 TOTAL

    MLS
    ---
    1-0-0-1 v USASA
    8-2-1-8 v USL
    2-2-0-2 v NASL
    7-7-2-8 v MLS
    18-11-3-19 TOTAL


    Amateur clubs went 4-22-2 against pro clubs, advancing four times and being outscored 78-30.
     
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  17. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Country:
    United States
  18. canammj

    canammj Member

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Country:
    United States
    ==========
    Miami and Cincy must be feeling pretty good knowing that one of them is going to make the Semi-Finals
    I feel the west bracket is stronger, so who knows if one of them can make the final...
     
  19. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
  20. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Streams for the games this week:

    http://www.ussoccer.com/lamar-hunt-...ents/2017-usoc/2017-us-open-cup-quarterfinals

    U.S. Open Cup

    Quarterfinals

    Home team first, times are ET

    Monday, July 10
    San Jose Earthquakes (MLS) 3-2 LA Galaxy (MLS)

    Tuesday, July 11
    Sporting Kansas City (MLS) v. FC Dallas (MLS) 8:30 pm

    Wednesday, July 12
    Miami FC (NASL) v. FC Cincinnati (USL) 7:30 pm

    Thursday, July 13
    New England Revolution (MLS) v. NY Red Bulls (MLS) 7:30 pm

    The semifinals are August 8-9.
     
  21. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Streams for the games this week:

    http://www.ussoccer.com/lamar-hunt-...ents/2017-usoc/2017-us-open-cup-quarterfinals

    U.S. Open Cup

    Quarterfinals

    Home team first, times are ET

    Monday, July 10
    San Jose Earthquakes (MLS) 3-2 LA Galaxy (MLS)

    Tuesday, July 11
    Sporting Kansas City (MLS) 3-0 (aet) FC Dallas (MLS)

    Wednesday, July 12
    Miami FC (NASL) v. FC Cincinnati (USL) 7:30 pm

    Thursday, July 13
    New England Revolution (MLS) v. NY Red Bulls (MLS) 7:30 pm

    The semifinals are August 8-9.
     
  22. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Country:
    United States
    https://www.socceramerica.com/artic...ys-tribute-to-neal-patters.html?edition=17471

    2017 Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup:
    QUARTERFINALS, RESULTS:
    July 10 in San Jose, Calif.

    San Jose Earthquakes 3 LA Galaxy 2. Goals: Wondolowski 16, 51, Hoesen 62; Van Damme 3, own goal 84.
    San Jose --
    Tarbell; Sarkodie, Imperiale, Jungwirth; Cato (Salinas 82), Thompson, Hyka (Dawkins 84), Yueill (Bernardez 88), Lima; Hoesen, Wondolowski.
    LA Galaxy -- Rowe; Diallo, Romney, Van Damme, Cole; Garcia, Jaime Villarreal (Lassiter 82); Jamieson (Mendiola 67), dos Santos, Boateng; McBean (McInerney 67).
    Att.:
    14,056.

    July 11 in Kansas City, Kansas
    Sporting KC 3 FC Dallas 0.
    Goals: Blessing 108+, 113+, Salloi 119.
    Sporting KC -- Melia; Abdul-Salaam, Opara (Ellis 105), Palmer-Brown, Sinovic; Espinoza, Ilie, Medranda; Gerso (Salloi 85), Rubio (Feilhaber 90), Blessing.
    FC Dallas -- Gonzalez; Grana, Zimmerman, Harris, Hollingshead (Morales 88); Gruezo, Ulloa (Akindele 46); Barrios, Diaz, Lamah (Colman 105); Urruti.
    Red Cards:
    Sporting KC -- Sinovic 15; FC Dallas -- Urruti 101, Morales 110+.
    Att.:
    15,016.
     
  23. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Country:
    United States
  24. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    U.S. Open Cup

    Quarterfinals

    Home team first, times are CT

    Monday, July 10
    San Jose Earthquakes (MLS) 3-2 LA Galaxy (MLS)

    Tuesday, July 11
    Sporting Kansas City (MLS) 3-0 (aet) FC Dallas (MLS) 7:30 pm

    Wednesday, July 12
    Miami FC (NASL) v. FC Cincinnati (USL) PPD

    Thursday, July 13
    New England Revolution (MLS) 0-1 NY Red Bulls (MLS)

    Still no date for the MIA/CIN makeup game. The semifinal and final hosting draw is today.

    The semifinals are August 8-9
     
  25. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    The USSF had the semifinal/final round host draw this morning.

    Host listed first.

    Semifinals
    August 8/9
    EAST
    Miami/Cincinnati winner v. NY Red Bulls

    WEST
    Sporting Kansas City v. San Jose Earthquakes

    Final
    September 20
    Hosting priority order:
    1. Sporting Kansas City
    2. NY Red Bulls
    3. Miami/Cincinnati winner
    4. San Jose Earthquakes
     

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