News: 2017: The "Fake News About Alternative MLS Teams" Thread

Discussion in 'Columbus Crew' started by svc641, Feb 19, 2017.

  1. DAK77

    DAK77 Member+

    Nov 10, 2008
    Merion Village, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    $$$$
     
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  2. zman31

    zman31 Member+

    May 5, 1999
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The question with pro/rel is always what problem does it solve? The owners have the league they want so barring some massive change in how soccer works globally there isn't anything that's solved for the owners by having pro/rel. We're used to leagues in NA where there isn't a balanced schedule. Ther chance that Crew SC is in the Great Lakes division with 5 other teams in a 30 team league is much more likely than pro/rel ever is.
     
  3. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    Ted, is that you? It is crazy to think people who buy a major league team and pay a whopping expansion fee will agree to let their team be dropped into a minor league.
     
  4. mmradio13

    mmradio13 Member+

    Apr 13, 2008
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This x1000000. Pro/rel isn't realistic in MLS because current owners aren't going to want to have the value of their investment decreased dramatically just because their team plays poorly for 1 season.
     
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  5. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Or, say, it's also a lot more likely that we end up with two distinct conferences with very little inter-conference play. In essence, an MLS with 28-30 teams starts to look a lot like two Div. 1 leagues. Why MLS owners would have any interest whatsoever in pro-rel is beyond me. Oh, that's right, they don't. It's only nutjobs like the guy who just bought the NY Cosmos who continue blather on about it.
     
  6. TRUJDUB

    TRUJDUB Member+

    Nov 22, 2015
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    I'm a Buckeye fan first and foremost and I despise all things Meatchicken. I don't like the Wolverines,Lions,Redwings,Tigers etc... MSU I can tolerate

    MLS expands to 28 teams you just play 13 other teams in your Confrence home & home and that's 26 games leaving 8 western Confrence opponents you play 4 home , 4 away which would be very similar to the current scheduling
     
  7. CrewV Man

    CrewV Man Member+

    Aug 18, 2011
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Argentina has 30 teams in their top division. And I do think they look at what the market can handle for NFL, NBA, etc and that is in the 30's. Seem reasonable that a country this large and rich they should be able to handle 32 or 36 teams.
    Before Pro/Rel in the MLS, I see like a East and West Division and they only meet during the playoffs or something like that.
    Honestly no one has ever made a good case for Pro/Rel for me so I a biased.
     
  8. west ham sandwich

    Feb 26, 2007
    C-bus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think you meant, "Yes, it is crazy"
     
  9. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I meant no as in
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  10. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite BS XXV

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Promotion/relegation with USL is what the masses seem to want. What the masses want is what the masses will never get.

    14 teams in MLS 1
    14 teams in MLS 2
    Conferences in each division.

    MLS 1:
    Top eight teams in MLS 1 make MLS Playoffs headed towards MLS Cup.
    Bottom three get relegated.
    MLS 1 has marquee games on Sundays.

    MLS 2:
    Top two teams get promoted.
    Teams in positions 3-10 get a promotion playoff.
    MLS 2 has marquee games on Fridays.


    Or:
    I could also see them go to divisions within the conferences real soon while keeping it all one league. Try something like this:

    Pacific Division:
    Vancouver, Seattle, Portland, San Jose, LA, LA2, RSL

    Northeast Division:
    Montreal, NE, NYRB, NYC, DC, Philadelphia

    Central Division:
    Chicago, Columbus, KC, Minnesota, Toronto

    South Division:
    Dallas, Houston, Orlando, Atlanta

    With a little strategic expansion, something close to those divisions might be crazy enough to work. And no, I don't see Miami happening.
     
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  11. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Are you could see the league go back to 3 conferences, West, Central, and East.

    As far as pro/rel goes, yeah, I'd love to have it. Not BS MLS1 and MLS2 version, I'd want MLS and USL movement. Of course, it won't happen, so I'm over it.
     
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  12. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Most US sports fans couldn't care less about pro/rel. Let's be real here.
     
  13. TRUJDUB

    TRUJDUB Member+

    Nov 22, 2015
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Can you prove the masses want this ?
     
  14. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agreed, but who the fcuk cares what non-soccer fans think about soccer?
     
  15. Crewmudgeon

    Crewmudgeon Member+

    Sep 3, 1999
    Crewdom
    No investment group that ponied up over $100 million in franchise fees will put up with relegation.
    No tin foil hat required.
     
  16. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't for a moment believe that a majority of MLS fans really care if we ever have pro/rel, either.
     
  17. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Those are the folks whose kids drag them to games....
     
  18. west ham sandwich

    Feb 26, 2007
    C-bus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    *raises hand*

    I, for one, have no interest in pro/rel
     
  19. jairadballerina

    jairadballerina Member+

    Sep 15, 2004
    C-Town
    Going about it the wrong way...you paid 100 Million to get into Major League Soccer but you have to win to get into SUPER MAJOR LEAGUE SOCCER!!!!one. The bottom 4 teams in SMLS!one get relegated to Major League Soccer.


    *please note I am not in favor or Pro/Rel ever in MLS or SMLS!one
     
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  20. Draghignazzo

    Draghignazzo Member+

    Feb 24, 2007
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    **Existing MLS teams can pay a one-time fee of $200m to join the SMLS!1 in year one. Missing MLS slots to be filled by deserving expansion teams. I like it.

    I think Pro/Rel would be really cool, but I also don't believe it is necessary, nor do I believe that it will ever actually happen.

    The thing that I love most about Pro/Rel is the FA Pyramid system that goes all the way down to the beer leagues so that your weekend beer leagues that join the FA could theoretically advance to the EPL. That's just a cool-as-f#<% concept that I'd love to see here, but it would take longer than my lifetime for us to create enough viable levels to make it to the Sat. Rec leagues in the US.
     
  21. CrewV Man

    CrewV Man Member+

    Aug 18, 2011
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I want to see Pro/Rel with college football and the NFL. The colleges would probably fight it because they would lose money and actually have to care about their athletes. . .
     
  22. KHT_Crew

    KHT_Crew Member+

    Mar 29, 2003
    Queen City, OH
    Except for the Galaxy, the get into SMLS entry for free...
     
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  23. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's happened--but usually by a big name sponsor picking up such a team and giving it lots of money. RB Leipzig is one such example, and Hoffenheim is another. Correspondingly, there's some former first division teams I knew about when I was younger that are down in the 6th division now or lower. Tennis Borussia Berlin is one (always loved that name). I'm sure my English friends here could come up with a few from the English leagues.

    One of the Regional Leagues in Germany (4th division and essentially amateur to semi pro) has no fewer than six former Bundesliga teams.
     
  24. Crewmudgeon

    Crewmudgeon Member+

    Sep 3, 1999
    Crewdom
    OK. I'll bite.

    Sudwest?

    But I can only think of five - Wynalda's Saarbrucken, Dooley's Homburg, Ulm, Stuttgarter Kickers, Offenbach?

    Who is number six?
     
  25. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just got done watching Toronto v Atlanta (no, I don't have a life). What a game. First 75 mins or so were spectacular. Game tailed off a bit at the end, but with the end to end action and pace being set by both teams, there was no way they could keep it going for all 90.

    If you have MLS Live, watch this shit tomorrow. Exact opposite of the shitshow of a game in Chicago today.
     

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