2017 Season Roster Thread

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  1. hardhead

    hardhead Moderator
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    Aug 19, 2008
    NEO
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    #1 hardhead, Mar 3, 2017
    Last edited: Apr 26, 2017
    MLS Season rosters are frozen. I'm not sure if someone wants to post a more detailed and organized start of season roster (I'm looking at you @MLSinCleveland). Here's the take from the Dispatch and CSC's website.

    EDIT: The latest update from @MLSinCleveland.
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    GK:

    Steffan, Zack
    Stuvar, Brad
    Ketterer, Logan*

    DF:

    Afful, Harrison (RB)
    Mensah, Jonathan (CB)**
    Naess, Nicoli (CB/DM)
    Raitala, Jukka (LB)*
    Abubakar, Lalas (CB)*
    Crognale, Alex (CB)*
    Francis, Waylon (LB)
    Williams, Josh (RB/CB)*
    Maloney, Connor (RB)*
    Sauro, Gaston (CB)***

    MF:

    Tchani, Tony (DM)
    Trapp, Wil (DM)
    Higuain, Federico (CM)**
    Meram, Justin (LM)
    Finlay, Ethan (RM)
    Jimenez (All the positions)
    Abu, Mohammed (DM)*
    Obinwa, Abuchi (DM)*
    Swanson, Ben (DM)
    Artur (CM)*
    Duka, Dilly (CM)
    Hollingsworth, Marshall (CM)*
    Martinez, Cristian (RM)
    Hansen, Niko (RM)*

    F:

    Kamara, Ola
    Jahn, Adam

    *New to team
    **DP
    ***Season ending injured reserve

    Currently out on loan:

    Saravia, Rodrigo (IK Frej--season long)
    Swanson (Pittsburgh)
    Hollingsworth (Pittsburgh)

    Out from last season:

    Clark (GK, AC Horsens)
    Pacifici (GK, ???)
    Parkhurst (CB, Atlanta--traded)
    Wahl (CB, Retired)
    Ashe (LB, free agent)
    Barson (RB, on trial at Chicago)
    Saeid (DM, Minnesota--expansion draft)
    Mabwati (LM, UCAM Murcia CF)
    Casey (F, Retired)

    Internationals:

    Abu, Abubakar, Afful, Artur, Kamara, Martinez, Mensah, Naess, Raitala
    (this tweet makes status for Abubakar, Artur and Naess unclear)

    Homegrowns:

    Crognale, Swanson
     
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  2. ZipSix

    ZipSix BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 20, 2000
    Boston, MA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who *are* these people?
     
  3. hardhead

    hardhead Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 2008
    NEO
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    I have to admit, this roster a bit perplexing. It's just a giant "who knows?" for me...and I'm paying more attention than most. We could be amazing this year, but we could sink worse than last year. It seems like Berhalter made changes in the areas we saw major needs in--but the replacements are giant unknowns. Hopefully the team start off strong and continue to refine (and shore up) an entertaining style of play and we're delightfully surprised. But, compared to almost any roster in MLS, this one is a head scratcher. Grant Wahl ranked us near the bottom of his 2017 "ambition rankings."
     
  4. 110toyourleft

    110toyourleft Member+

    Jan 27, 2007
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wonder how strongly his list and the salary cap correlate, with stadium situations peppered in. Makes you wonder what value writing a list like this has.
     
  5. Draghignazzo

    Draghignazzo Member+

    Feb 24, 2007
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
  6. mmradio13

    mmradio13 Member+

    Apr 13, 2008
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Guilt teams into spending a bunch of money on infrastructure like a new stadium and training facility.
     
  7. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Yours truly has been speaking to Precourt's lack of ambition on these boards for some time now and been labeled a hater, conspiracy theorist, and of course 2017 Realist Fan. It's my cross to bear.

    It is interesting to see Wahl come around to the hangthadj school of thought, though unexpected. It is clear as day for anyone who wants to see. Or anyone who looks beyond craft beer festivals or new food trucks.

    Defenders of Precourt will scream, "He's signed a second DP!!! Academy spending has increased!!! TV Deal!!!!" And yes, all of these things are nice. They are to be commended to a point. But when you look outside of the vacuum and realize that Precourt is in a league competing with 21 other owners, most of whom have made at least equal, almost all more of an investment it becomes clear why Crew would rank near the bottom of these rankings.

    There is lots of crowing about the TV deal, increased corporate sponsorship, and community interest. All these are good and well. Meanwhile, RSL has a legit B team. Dallas has an academy that is producing MLS ready players at an alarming rate. We have a dysfunctional relationship with Pittsburgh and Ben Swanson.

    When @ZipSix asks, "Who are these guys?" part of it goes back to that lack of ambition by the owner. With a lack of sufficient investment in the Academy, with no Crew B, we are left to patch together a roster. We don't have the Tyler Adams or Sean Davis's or even Luis Gil's coming through the system. We don't have the Freddy Montero, Nicolas Lodiero, or Josef Martinez's as DP's either. We ask who are these guys because we haven't invested enough in youth development to bring guys through, get excited about their development and see them thrive in the senior team. We ask who are these guys because we are stuck looking at grainy youtube footage of obscure leagues for our DP's since they are sitting the bench in major tourneys, if they are called to their national team at all.

    This is due to how Precourt runs the team and due to his lack of ambition. Wahl's rankings take this into account and are completely fair. Hopefully, with the Acura deal and more money coming into the league Precourt steps it up in coming years. For now he's treading water. Happy to hang out, but not quite ready to go all the way to the deep end.
     
  8. MLSinCleveland

    MLSinCleveland Member+

    Oct 12, 2006
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm waiting on clarification on the International situation to put together chart 1.0 (probably won't have breakdown between cap roster and various cap-exempt rosters until salary info comes out).
     
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  9. MLSinCleveland

    MLSinCleveland Member+

    Oct 12, 2006
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How much is the owner and how much is Columbus being a small market?
     
  10. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Some of both. However, mechanisms are in play in MLS so that small markets can still compete. Precourt just hasn't done enough.
     
  11. Draghignazzo

    Draghignazzo Member+

    Feb 24, 2007
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Crap. Could a mod put this in the pregame thread where I thought I was posting. Thanks.
     
  12. puttputtfc

    puttputtfc Member+

    Sep 7, 1999
    Grant Wahl is a horse's ass who thought he had a chance to become FIFA President. This ass kissing blowhard lost credibility years ago and whatever he calls "ambition" probably reeks more than my cat's one minute ago used litter box.
     
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  13. puttputtfc

    puttputtfc Member+

    Sep 7, 1999
    It takes a while for youth academies to pan out and let's be honest, MLS hasn't always been fair to teams about youth development and transfer fees. This is one area I can't blame the Hunts backing off from or Precourt wanting to jump in.
     
  14. MLSinCleveland

    MLSinCleveland Member+

    Oct 12, 2006
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The tweet linked to in the OP doesn't list Raitala either, but does list Hansen as an International.
     
  15. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hansen was born in the US.
     
  16. MLSinCleveland

    MLSinCleveland Member+

    Oct 12, 2006
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is getting less clear as the season approaches.
     
  17. Placid Casual

    Placid Casual Member+

    Apr 2, 2004
    Bentley's Roof
    Huh. You have a link for that?

    Maybe someone should tell the Crew website. They seem to think he was born in Randers.....

    Stop believing the corporate shill.

    http://www.columbuscrewsc.com/players/niko-hansen
     
  18. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ok, his hometown is sacromento. Sorry. Point still remains, he doesn't count as an international. Probably because, if you'd taken the whole 3 seconds to scroll down instead of thinking up a snarky remark, you'd have seen he is a dual citizen, Danish and American. Whoops.

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  19. Placid Casual

    Placid Casual Member+

    Apr 2, 2004
    Bentley's Roof
    No. Because you said he was born here. Whoops.

    Facts. Get them right. It's pretty basic.

    So I will make all the snarky remarks I want, when you can't do that.

    Oh. And try spelling his hometown right as well.
     
  20. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Haha. Why you always so bitter man?
     
  21. Placid Casual

    Placid Casual Member+

    Apr 2, 2004
    Bentley's Roof
    Because you are a twat. Who thinks he knows everyhing.

    And you like to call other people out but can't accept when you are wrong.
     
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  22. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Merry crewsmas to you as well kind sir!!
     
  23. Placid Casual

    Placid Casual Member+

    Apr 2, 2004
    Bentley's Roof
    See. Can't accept you got it wrong.

    Just say it.

    " I was wrong "
     
  24. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was wrong.

    Now have a coke and a smile and lighten up, you'll live longer :)
     
  25. Placid Casual

    Placid Casual Member+

    Apr 2, 2004
    Bentley's Roof
    Don't drink coke.

    Stop being a smug twat. You'll live longer.
     

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