2017 season prediction contest - weekly predictions

Discussion in 'NWSL' started by SiberianThunderT, Apr 10, 2017.

  1. Blaze20

    Blaze20 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Seattle Reign FC
    Sep 22, 2009
    Club:
    Philadelphia Independence
    I think I'm gonna wait on this. Who knows what the roster of each team will look like by saturday at the rate we are going.
     
  2. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    CHI v KC 1-1
    ORL v DC 3-0
    NC v POR, 2-1
    SEA v HOU, 2-0
    BOS v NJ 1-1
     
  3. 59Amerinorsk

    59Amerinorsk Member

    Chicago Red Stars
    Norway
    Mar 31, 2017
    CHI 2, KC 1
    ORL 2, DC 0
    NC 2, POR 2
    SEA 1, HOU 2
    BOS 1, NJ 1
     
  4. CoachJon

    CoachJon Member+

    Feb 1, 2006
    Rochester, NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    CHI- 2 v KC-0
    ORL-3 v DC-0
    NC-1 v POR-2
    SEA-1 v HOU-2
    BOS - 1 v NJ-3
     
  5. BlueCrimson

    BlueCrimson Member+

    North Carolina Courage
    United States
    Nov 21, 2012
    Cincinnati, Ohio
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Chicago 1, Kansas City 2
    Orlando 2, Washington 0
    North Carolina 2, Portland 2
    Seattle 0, Houston 1
    Boston 0, SkyBlue 2
     
  6. holden

    holden Member+

    Dundee FC, Yeovil Town LFC, Girondins de Bordeaux
    Oct 20, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Dundee FC
    CHI 1 - 1 KC
    ORL 2 - 1 DC
    NC 2 - 2 POR
    SEA 1 - 2 HOU
    BOS 0 - 2 NJ
     
  7. lil_one

    lil_one Member+

    Nov 26, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    CHI 1-1 KC
    ORL 2-1 DC
    NC 1-2 POR
    SEA 0-2 HOU
    BOS 0-1 NJ
     
  8. lunatica

    lunatica Member+

    Nov 20, 2013
    CHI 1-1 KC
    ORL 1-0 DC
    NC 3-2 POR
    SEA 1-2 HOU
    BOS 0-2 NJ
     
  9. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    CHI 2-0 KC
    ORL 2-0 DC
    NC 1-1 POR
    SEA 0-1 HOU
    BOS 2-0 NJ
     
  10. LucyFearsTheMorningStar

    Sep 27, 2015
    Club:
    Atlanta Beat
    CHI 1-2 KC
    ORL 1-0 DC
    NC 2-1 POR
    SEA 1-1 HOU
    BOS 1-2 NJ
     
  11. Smallchief

    Smallchief Member+

    Oct 27, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Chicago 2=1 KC
    Orlando 2-1 Wash
    NC 3-2 Portland
    Seattle 2-2 Houston
    Boston 1-2 NJ
     
  12. babranski

    babranski Member+

    Dec 15, 2012
    Raleigh, NC
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    CHI 3-1 KC
    ORL 2-0 DC
    NC 2-2 POR
    SEA 0-3 HOU
    BOS 1-2 NJ
     
  13. Blaze20

    Blaze20 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Seattle Reign FC
    Sep 22, 2009
    Club:
    Philadelphia Independence
    CHI 2-1 KC
    ORL 3-0 DC
    NC 1-0 POR
    SEA 2-1HOU
    BOS 2-0 NJ
     
  14. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Can I brag a little that i was one of the two guys (out of 12) to predict Seattle Reign's win? ;) (The other one was the guy with Seattle's crest as an avatar! :laugh:)
    8 had predicted Houston's win and 2 a draw.

    I didn' catch the excat score, though: I wasn't as optimistic as to foresee a 5-1! :)
     
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  15. Blaze20

    Blaze20 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Seattle Reign FC
    Sep 22, 2009
    Club:
    Philadelphia Independence
    Well you get no bragging rights as I'm not a guy :)
     
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  16. holden

    holden Member+

    Dundee FC, Yeovil Town LFC, Girondins de Bordeaux
    Oct 20, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Dundee FC
    I think I got zero points this week... :sick:
     
  17. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    It's just my same "bad at english" problem. I assumed that since "guys" can be both genders (it does, isn't it? :cautious:), the singular could be also. :x3:
     
  18. babranski

    babranski Member+

    Dec 15, 2012
    Raleigh, NC
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Blaze must have had some inside information or she is from the future.
     
  19. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Well, maybe she just factored in the home advantage. The reasonment was: the home team wins! :laugh:
     
  20. Blaze20

    Blaze20 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Seattle Reign FC
    Sep 22, 2009
    Club:
    Philadelphia Independence
    Well now that you ask I'll go into detail what my thought process was as I did not think my picks were out of the ordinary if you put more stock in the historical match-ups instead of the week 1 result :).

    SBFC is a team that always start the season strong (win against defending champs in 2015 and a good Seattle team in 2016). Also Seattle have historically struggle to beat SBFC. I can only remember 1 or 2 games were it was an easy win. So them playing to a draw did not say much about those teams.
    I also did not see much in Houston's performance against Chicago that convince me they were a different team then last year where they also beat Chicago in that first game. Combine that with their 0 point record against Seattle and I was left bereft that most were picking them for the win.

    Now contrast that with a team like Boston who were actually quite impressive in their loss against a very strong FCKC defense. The Boston of last year would have folded like a cheap deck chair the minute they give up that first goal. But they continue to play their game and actually had chances to score. So I knew winning against SBFC was not a long shot.

    Now NCC/POR was a toss up as I think both teams are evenly match but I give the advantage to NCC as Portland is a terrible road team.

    As for Orlando they should have won that game but I under-estimated just how rudimentary their current offense is. The addition of Marta should help a great deal (if they get around to passing her the ball.)
     
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  21. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I wasn't there last year, so I can't really judge by comparison, but I've got the feeling that those +1's are maybe too much generous? A guy guessing right that Houston scored 1 (for instance by saying SR-HD 1-1 or 0-1) gets the same as a guy who correctly guessed SR's win, but couldn't get the score or the goal difference right (because, well, 5-1 is hard to predict)? :cautious:

    I mean: shouldn't this reward knowledge of NWSL? Guessing the total number of goals in match or the goals scored by one single team isn't a little random when you didn't get at all the actual outcome of the game?

    Mind, not sure what you could do about it, in fact. Maybe making those +1's into +0.5's?
     
  22. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Aw, geez... I was typing up the scores update and your post disrupted BS and now I lost it... Well, to answer:
    Guessing a single team's scoring capacity is not random. If you look at HOU's offense and SEA's defense and say HOU will score 1 goal, I think that's perfectly reasonable to reward, however off you might be with the opposite score.

    Also, you're forgetting that even if you miss the exact score, predicting a SEA win is still likely to get you more points than simply getting HOU's score right, since those +1's can also stack on top of getting the result correct. Any score with HOU losing while scoring 1 goal will get you 2pts, as would predictions of 4-0, 4-2, or any win with SEA scoring 5.

    Finally, precisely because 5-1 is so hard to predict, I don't think it should be used as an example to criticize the scoring method. You're arguing whether such a rare scoreline should be rewarding 1's and 0's depending on only the W/D/L alone versus rewarding 1's and 1's depending on both W/L/D and the ability to predict scores.

    Now, let me start back with the score report.
     
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  23. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Alright, let's see how we did! Including numbers from last week...

    59Amerinorsk - 6pts + 2+1+0+0+1 = 10pts / 10g
    babranski - 5pts + 1+1+0+0+1 = 8pts / 10g
    Blaze20 - 7pts + 1+0+3+2+2 = 15pts / 10g
    blissett - 3pts + 1+0+2+1+1 = 8pts / 6g
    BlueCrimson - 7pts + 1+1+0+1+0 = 10pts / 10g
    CoachJon - 5pts + 2+0+1+0+1 = 9pts / 10g
    holden - 8pts + 1+1+0+0+0 = 10pts / 10g
    lil_one - 8pts + 1+1+1+0+1 = 12pts / 10g
    Lucy - 6pts + 1+1+2+1+1 = 12pts / 10g
    lunatica - 11pts + 1+1+2+0+0 = 15pts / 10g
    Smallchief - 1pt + 2+1+2+0+1 = 7pts / 6g
    STT - 6pts + 2+1+1+1+2 = 13pts / 10g
    weelilbit - 4pts + x+x+x+x+x = 4pts / 2g

    = = = = =

    I will say in my previous response to blissett, I had addressed the +1 for getting one team's score right, but not the +1 for getting total goals in the game score. Both were inspired by comments that were (sometimes jokingly) made in previous seasons of the prediction contest, but while I think getting one team's score correct is a legitimate prediction reward, I'm thinking that the +1 for total goals is a bit more on the silly side... (I'm looking at my own ORL 2-0 DC prediction here.) What are people's thoughts on the total goals +1? Shall I revoke it?
     
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  24. holden

    holden Member+

    Dundee FC, Yeovil Town LFC, Girondins de Bordeaux
    Oct 20, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Dundee FC
    While there is something to be said for the history of how the two have done against each other, this is a different Reign team than the one that dominated Houston in the past. So I don't think it's unreasonable to expect different results from them. (Plus, how was I supposed to know Matthias would be taken out early reducing the chance that she give up a PK? I guess I should've figured that after having the defense look fairly solid against Chicago, Waldrum would change it up so they were completely inept, though...)
     
  25. LucyFearsTheMorningStar

    Sep 27, 2015
    Club:
    Atlanta Beat
    #50 LucyFearsTheMorningStar, Apr 24, 2017
    Last edited: Apr 24, 2017
    I didn't fully check lineups but with Andressa hurt and Van Wyck apparently suffering from flu, some changes had to be made. Just not sure why you still throw your rookie keeper who missed some of preseason into that equation.
     

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