2017 Regular Season Rumors, Transfers, and Player Movement Thread

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  1. BuddhaWake

    BuddhaWake Member+

    Aug 13, 2010
    Philadelphia
    So Ilshinho's time with the U is over. No way they play him the rest of the games. That's a horrible way to do business. Is almost like when Llorente was sold to Juventus and Loco Bielsa wouldn't play him for half a season even though Bilbao kept losing and losing games.
     
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  2. Dills

    Dills Moderator
    Staff Member

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Guy will probably show up to preseason in January and be the only player without a nameplate above his locker ... and he'll have a letter from Jay Sugarman which starts out as, "Dear Sir/Madam"
     
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  3. BuddhaWake

    BuddhaWake Member+

    Aug 13, 2010
    Philadelphia
    Just start by taking his stapler and moving his locker closer to the exit door and move from there.
     
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  4. Dills

    Dills Moderator
    Staff Member

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
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    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  5. drewuke

    drewuke Member+

    Jul 19, 2012
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    I don't think it would include Open Cup games.
     
  6. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Didn't Llorente walk on a free? Also, I thought Bielsa left Bilbao after they lost the Europa League Final?
     
  7. WVUPharm2007

    WVUPharm2007 Member+

    Jul 24, 2011
    Montgomery Township, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good. Hopefully they can just "fix the glitch" on Alberg, Edu, and Simpson, too.
     
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  8. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
    Delco
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sugarman only has fractions of pennys when compared to other owners.
     
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  9. DoctorD

    DoctorD Member+

    Sep 29, 2002
    MidAtlantic
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is this type of clause in Ilsinho's contract normal? I don't recall hearing something like this before.
     
  10. LimeTree

    LimeTree Member+

    Oct 22, 2007
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Yeah, I feel like I've definitely heard of automatic incentives like this before. Though, I'm not sure how having to be chained to the Union for another year is much of an incentive. It's like mutually assured destruction.
     
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  11. BuddhaWake

    BuddhaWake Member+

    Aug 13, 2010
    Philadelphia
    Yes, he signed with Juventus in January 24 for the following season at the end of his Bilbao contract so he was lame duck for 5 months. And yes, Bielsa left at the end of that season. but between Jan through May Llorente basically sat on the bench except near the end while the team kept losing games. Sorry I misspoke when I said sold.
     
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  12. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    why was Bielsa so pissed though about Llorente signing? It seems crazy they'd leave 1 of the best players on the bench over a spat.

    was that the season Bilbao finished 4th in the league?
     
  13. Starpork

    Starpork Member+

    Nov 12, 2013
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Twellman is confused as to why the Union wouldn't sell Alberg if a European team had offered money.

    Easy answer: no one actually offered them money.
     
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  14. BuddhaWake

    BuddhaWake Member+

    Aug 13, 2010
    Philadelphia
    No, they finished twelve but if I'm not misremembering there were times they were around 16th. They finished 4th with Valverde de following year. Seems Llorente was frozen out due to contract. He hasn't done anything since. Was he in the world cup winning side?

    No way anyone offered the union money for Alberg. I'm sure not even a deal on a used car was offered.
     
  15. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Yeah Llorente played in the Portugal match during the WC. I recall he was named to the 2012 roster. I was just amazed that the manager would keep him froze out despite the club needing his scoring abilities.
     
  16. Starpork

    Starpork Member+

    Nov 12, 2013
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Pretty sure it was Kristian Dyer of Metro who reported that. Otherwise known as Nick Sakiewicz's little box of rumors.
     
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  17. mattylip

    mattylip Member+

    Philadelphia Union
    Jul 22, 2011
    Cherry Hill (127, D)
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  18. aztec21bas

    aztec21bas BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 24, 2009
    Mullica Hill, NJ
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A good start.... but we are more than 3 players away from contending. 3 players might get us over the line, but contend, nope. Need to replace Sapong, Creavalle, and Wijnaldum from that lineup.
     
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  19. LimeTree

    LimeTree Member+

    Oct 22, 2007
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Sapong shouldn't be a starter, nor should Creavalle. I'd be fine with Marquez in defense.
     
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  20. mattylip

    mattylip Member+

    Philadelphia Union
    Jul 22, 2011
    Cherry Hill (127, D)
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ideally, we would terminate Simpson's contract, sign a #9 and use Sapong as the backup.

    I'm still convinced that the Bedoya-Medunjanin pairing doesn't work against good teams. I would much prefer to have a traditional #6 like Creavalle (or, hopefully, someone better) to pair with Medunjanin and move Bedoya to the wing.
     
  21. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
    Delco
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Forever “3 players away”
     
  22. drewuke

    drewuke Member+

    Jul 19, 2012
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    We're only 3 players and 5 years away from success.
     
  23. OwlSaver

    OwlSaver Member+

    Jan 26, 2005
    Berwyn, PA (127, J)
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think it is more complicated. We need a good team that can support player rotation. Rotation that puts the right team on the field for the opponent that day. So, it can't be just three players. We need the right set of players to take on most of the teams in MLS. My guess is that it is at least six players that we need.
     
  24. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  25. Handsome Pete

    Handsome Pete Member+

    May 16, 2011
    Minneapolis
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No one else wants him.
     
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