2017 MLS Week 4 Referee Discussion

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  1. bhooks

    bhooks Member

    Apr 14, 2015
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    03/25/2017

    New England Revolution v Minnesota United
    Gillette Stadium (2:00pm ET)
    REF: RICARDO SALAZAR
    AR1: Oscar Mitchell-Carvalho
    AR2: Claudiu Badea
    4TH: Robert Sibiga

    New York Red Bulls v Real Salt Lake
    Red Bull Arena (4:00pm ET)
    REF: CHRIS PENSO
    AR1: Kathryn Nesbitt
    AR2: Nick Uranga
    4TH: Jorge Gonzalez

    Columbus Crew v Portland Timbers
    MAPFRE Stadium (7:30pm ET)
    REF: SILVIU PETRESCU
    AR1: Jason White
    AR2: Craig Lowry
    4TH: Sorin Stoica

    http://www.proreferees.com/2017-mls-regular-season-assignments---week-4.php
     
  2. bhooks

    bhooks Member

    Apr 14, 2015
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
  3. refinDC

    refinDC Member

    Aug 7, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  4. bhooks

    bhooks Member

    Apr 14, 2015
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    The first match takes place this Saturday, March 25th, however the PRO website does not list a VAR.

    Richmond Kickers v Harrisburg City Islanders
    City Stadium (5:00pm ET)
    REF: DANIELLE CHESKY
    AR1: Jeffrey Skinker
    AR2: Ben Pilgrim
    4TH: John Griggs

    Sometimes the commentators (for broadcasted matches) get a list of officials they read off, and they may make a point to announce the VAR since it will be one of the first few official uses in the US.
     
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  5. jdmahoney

    jdmahoney Member

    Feb 28, 2017
    Plymouth, MN
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
  6. Midwest Ref

    Midwest Ref Member

    Jul 25, 2002
    This is a cynical move to block a run by an attacking player without the ball. The defender's reaction tells you everything you need to know. He is not arguing the call; he is claiming the foul is outside the area. Commit a foul that close to the line, and you are taking your chances. I have not seen enough evidence to convince me that the referee was wrong.
     
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  7. ManiacalClown

    ManiacalClown Member+

    Jun 27, 2003
    South Jersey
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's very close. There's a good, ground-level angle that seems to indicate the foul was maybe inches outside the area, but it could easily have been inside or on the line.
     
  8. oldmanreferee

    oldmanreferee Member

    Dec 28, 2005
    Mountain View, ca
    the MNUFC players foot is on the line when the contact was made. Aren't the line that make the boundary still part of that area. Or did the IFAB change that also
     
  9. socal lurker

    socal lurker Member+

    May 30, 2009
    But the question is where the contact occurred.
     
  10. jdmahoney

    jdmahoney Member

    Feb 28, 2017
    Plymouth, MN
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Watching the game live here in Minnesota, they showed a very close-up shot that showed that the contact was a few inches outside of the area. Not a terribly bad decision to call a PK, but correct decision would have been a free kick.
     
  11. MetroFever

    MetroFever Member+

    Jun 3, 2001
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    Croatia
    Felipe of the Red Bulls goes another week getting away with stuff most of the other players don't.

    Check Simon Borg's video where he goes in studs-up into someone's calf in the 3rd minute. The second half saw two retaliatory fouls by RSL against Felipe in the second half that were cautioned.
     
  12. bhooks

    bhooks Member

    Apr 14, 2015
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    The match assignment was updated between the initial release and kickoff.

    Richmond Kickers v Harrisburg City Islanders
    City Stadium (5:00pm ET)
    REF: JOSE CARLOS RIVERO
    AR1: Jeffrey Skinker
    AR2: Ben Pilgrim
    4TH: John Griggs
    VAR: Hilario Grajeda

    The match can be found on YouTube @
     
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  13. sulfur

    sulfur Member+

    Oct 22, 2007
    Ontario, Canada
    Were there any VAR usages in the game that we know of?
     
  14. bhooks

    bhooks Member

    Apr 14, 2015
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I scrubbed through the match and did not see any instance of VAR usage.
     
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  15. sulfur

    sulfur Member+

    Oct 22, 2007
    Ontario, Canada
    Thanks for that. Did you see/hear of any in the following VAR'd match?
     
  16. bhooks

    bhooks Member

    Apr 14, 2015
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I did not notice any usage in that match either
     
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