2017 MLS Week 31 Referee Discussion

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  1. bhooks

    bhooks Member

    Apr 14, 2015
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    The assignments for Week 31 of the 2017 MLS season:

    10/03/2017

    Atlanta United v Minnesota United
    Mercedes-Benz Stadium (7:00PM ET)
    REF: ARMANDO VILLARREAL
    AR1: Logan Brown
    AR2: Nick Uranga
    4TH: Rubiel Vazquez
    VAR: Silviu Petrescu

    10/07/2017

    New York Red Bulls v Vancouver Whitecaps
    Red Bull Arena (5:00PM ET)
    REF: JORGE GONZALEZ
    AR1: Andrew Bigelow
    AR2: Jose Da Silva
    4TH: Ted Unkel
    VAR: Rubiel Vazquez

    Colorado Rapids v FC Dallas
    Dick’s Sporting Goods Park (8:00PM ET)
    REF: SILVIU PETRESCU
    AR1: Gianni Facchini
    AR2: Craig Lowry
    4TH: Nima Saghafi
    VAR: Edvin Jurisevic

    Minnesota United v Sporting Kansas City
    TCF Bank Stadium (9:00PM ET)
    REF: JOSE CARLOS RIVERO
    AR1: Eric Boria
    AR2: Felisha Mariscal
    4TH: Sorin Stoica
    VAR: Kevin Terry Jr
     
  2. RedStar91

    RedStar91 Member+

    Sep 7, 2011
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd
    Villarreal having a nightmare in Atlanta. VAR also not having a good game as well.

    Shocking tackle by Martin only given a yellow. Also, clear foul prior to challenge missed right outside the penalty area.

    Villarreal clearly either talking to VAR or 4th after the tackle and nothing done. Dissent by Atlanta players and coaching staff and nothing done.

    Then they miss a clear foul by the Atlanta goalkeeper on Minnesota attacker just outside penalty area.

    VAR bails him out, but Villarreal gets hit by water bottle as he is on his way to monitor. Then dissent ensues after the red card was given.

    Just a disaster all around.

    I know he's next in line to go to the World Cup, but Villarreal is regressing as a referee. His performances keep getting worse year after year.
     
  3. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If Villarreal felt it wasn't quite DOGSO after looking at video, is he allowed to give a yellow and a FK? I'm assuming yes since the VAR initiated the review for a red card.
     
  4. Bubba Atlanta

    Bubba Atlanta Member+

    Mar 2, 2012
    Yep, Atlanta
    Club:
    Atlanta United FC
    #4 Bubba Atlanta, Oct 3, 2017
    Last edited: Oct 3, 2017
    I was there. It looked even worse in the stadium (and the crowd noise had absolutely nothing to do with that). :whistling:

    That stadium and crowd are something else - -my first time there and it was almost surreal. I was thinking "It must be wild to referee in this atmosphere," and then after a while I thought, "And he's kinda looking like he wishes he were somewhere else."
     
  5. GlennAA11

    GlennAA11 Member+

    Jun 12, 2001
    Arlington, VA
    I only saw the second half...and Atlanta's announcers whining at halftime.

    At least they eventually got the send off right thanks to VAR. But I do agree he seems to be going backwards.
     
  6. Professor B

    Professor B Member

    Oct 13, 2000
    Grundy, VA
    The red card seemed to be the only thing he got right. Tata seems on to something after the game - he seemed to be not making calls and waiting to see if VAR called it down. I wonder if the structure of VAR will bend refs in that direction...
     
  7. ManiacalClown

    ManiacalClown Member+

    Jun 27, 2003
    South Jersey
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I feel like if this game had happened a week ago, the Collin Martin tackle would have been reviewed.

    Also, definitely still laughing that we've now had TWO pretty damn clear and obvious DOGSO reviews since Rejer's ridiculous assertion that it's "too subjective a call."
     
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  8. GoDawgsGo

    GoDawgsGo Member+

    Nov 11, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not sure what happened on the first one you are referring to, but Villarreal never even called a foul on this one and the ball stayed in play. He had the worst angle possible and was trailing a good bit. AR1 should have had a decent enough angle to at least indicate it was a foul, but never put the flag up.
     
  9. RefLI

    RefLI Member

    Nov 4, 2013
    New York
  10. rh89

    rh89 Member

    Sep 29, 2015
    OR
    I'm in agreement with y'all about Villareal. Once one of my favorites, now drifting downward.
     
  11. drummer68

    drummer68 Member

    Sep 17, 2005
  12. ManiacalClown

    ManiacalClown Member+

    Jun 27, 2003
    South Jersey
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  13. drummer68

    drummer68 Member

    Sep 17, 2005
    as a matter of fact, the ad at the school said he hadn't been there as a coach in three years, and contacted the guy's employer to have the reference removed.

    as of now, it's gone. so, there's that...
     
  14. drummer68

    drummer68 Member

    Sep 17, 2005
  15. Bubba Atlanta

    Bubba Atlanta Member+

    Mar 2, 2012
    Yep, Atlanta
    Club:
    Atlanta United FC
    Which private school was it? I don't recognize him.
     
  16. GoDawgsGo

    GoDawgsGo Member+

    Nov 11, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Westminster. Hasn't actually coached there in 2-3 years.
     
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  17. GlennAA11

    GlennAA11 Member+

    Jun 12, 2001
    Arlington, VA
    How do those bans actually work? It's hard to imagine they have a poster at every entrance that anyone refers to.
     

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