2017 MLS Regular Season Roster Moves

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  1. jason1551

    jason1551 Member+

    Apr 9, 2003
    Columbus, GA
    Club:
    DC United
    Since no one else has started it...

    And the first honor goes to:


    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sport...hweinsteiger-chicago-fire-20170321-story.html

     
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  2. Balerion

    Balerion Member+

    Aug 5, 2006
    Somerville, MA
    Country:
    United States
    I don't really get it. The Fire spent a lot to get McCarty and Juninho. Now they'll feel obligated to all three and someone will be out of position.
     
  3. PTFC in KCMO

    PTFC in KCMO Member+

    Aug 12, 2012
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
  4. jond

    jond Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
    On My Squatty Potty
    Club:
    Levski Sofia
    Country:
    United States
    Why? Makes zero sense.

    Paying him 4.5M for the year? Whomever runs Chicago's scouting department should be railroaded out of town. You can get far better on the global market for a fraction the price.

    “He can produce actions that few players in the world can do,” Paunovic said. “He sees (things) that nobody sees. He opens the eyes of the fans, where you can hear the people say, ‘Wow!’”

    Good lord.
     
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  5. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    Wonderful. NT just fired exactly the same guy.
     
  6. Yoshou

    Yoshou Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Country:
    United States
    Old school DP signing. He moves the attendance needle even if his on the field performance isn't significantly better than the player he's replacing.
     
  7. Papillon Soo Soo

    Jan 17, 2012
    That one guy I have on ignore who always complains about no-name signings ought to be pleased
     
  8. Yoshou

    Yoshou Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Country:
    United States
    I'm sure he'll complain because Schweinsteiger isn't a big enough name and is on the wrong side of 30. ;)
     
  9. Editor In Chimp

    Editor In Chimp Member+

    Sep 7, 2008
    The Fire are the worst run franchise in the city, and that's saying something.
     
  10. Balerion

    Balerion Member+

    Aug 5, 2006
    Somerville, MA
    Country:
    United States
    I'm actually really curious to see the degree to which he moves the attendance needle.
     
  11. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Country:
    United States
    Egg Shen: Can see things no one else can see. Do things no one else can do.

    Jack Burton: Real things?

    Egg Shen: As real as Lo Pan!

    Jack Burton: Hey, what more can a guy ask for?

    Egg Shen: Oh, the six-demon bag!

    Jack Burton: Terrific, a six-demon bag. Sensational. What's in it, Egg?

    Egg Shen: Wind, fire, all that kind of thing!
     
  12. Editor In Chimp

    Editor In Chimp Member+

    Sep 7, 2008
    Unless his World-Cup-Winningness has the ability to levitate Toyota Park into a different location that isn't literally the "end of the line", it's not going to move it much.
     
  13. Yoshou

    Yoshou Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Country:
    United States
    *shrug* There will likely be a bump for the first couple of games that he starts.. Whether that is sustainable will largely depend on if the team is entertaining and whether the FO doesn't do anything stupid. The latter being the hardest part..
     
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  14. Balerion

    Balerion Member+

    Aug 5, 2006
    Somerville, MA
    Country:
    United States
    Toronto has signed Jason Hernandez, giving them a 6th CB (Moor, Hagglund, Zavaleta, Aubrey, Brunell) in addition to LB Chis Mavinga who I believe can play there as well.
     
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  15. PhillyMLS

    PhillyMLS Member+

    Oct 24, 2000
    SE PA
    Depends. If the Fire are sticking with a 4-2-3-1 then he is most likely removing Arturo Alvarez from the field. If they switch over to a 3-5-2 (less likely, but something I think they might consider) then it will push Michael Harrington to the bench. Now he isn't directly replacing either of those two (De Leuuw will take over Alvarez's position and Bastian will play a more like a CAM*, while Harrington would just drop to the bench with his position). I'd argue his performance would be significantly better than either of them. Now if that leads to a better team performance.....whole other question.

    * While he is more well known for being a CM/DM he has, according to Transfermarkt, played as an AM 67 times in his career. Course he also has played more as a left or right midfielder than an AM, but it is a role he isn't unfamiliar with.
     
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  16. Yoshou

    Yoshou Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Country:
    United States
    I wasn't saying he wouldn't be better.. I was just noting that his signing is a return to the original use of DP where teams would bring in an older player to move the attendance needle as much, if not more, than improving the overall quality of the team.
     
  17. areathrasher

    areathrasher Member

    Mar 26, 2014
    Toronto
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Country:
    Ireland Republic
    What's Big Bloody Deal auf Deutsch?
     
  18. PhillyMLS

    PhillyMLS Member+

    Oct 24, 2000
    SE PA
    I'm not sold on that point though. Yes, he is going to be 33. Yes, he had two knee injuries last year. And, yes, he isn't playing for Man U this year (which could be a plus since it has given his body a break). I feel that a lot of people seem to forget that up until his knee injury last year he was a starter for a top 5 EPL team. If the Fire put him in a position to succeed (don't make him your workhorse in midfield and run him into the ground) he can probably be one of the better CAMs in the league. He'll be one of the better passers in the league and you can use his defensive ability to try and create turnovers higher up the field. People are acting like he is a Gerrard or Lampard signing but he is 5 years younger than they were. Plus it is only a year long contract. If he really can't recover from the injuries then you lose little. If he is fully healed you have a potentially top 5 or 10 player in the league.

    I won't belabor this point anymore though. I can see how people think he is a washed up signing that is just there to move a needle in the local market. I think that he has got real potential and people are writing him off because he was benched by Jose. I will say he certainly is no Almiron, Lodeiro, Giovinco, or Blanco type signing and I know that disappoints people.
     
  19. EvilTree

    EvilTree Member+

    Nov 20, 2007
    Kitchener, Soviet Canuckistan
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Country:
    Canada
    My question is, does Schweinie still have the motivation to play? Injuries aside, fitness and work ethic has been a question for him last few years. He's won pretty much everything so winning trophies... eh. Does he want to compete hard in MLS or just coast?
     
  20. carnifex2005

    carnifex2005 Member+

    Jul 1, 2008
    Club:
    Vancouver Whitecaps
  21. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Well said. I agree with all of this, including the risk assessment.

    Plus, the Fire signed him for a relative song, considering his current salary and the salaries of Gerrard, Lampard, Pirlo, Kaka, and other 30+ midfielders from top European leagues signing with MLS.

    If he is healthy, we could have a top 5 or 10 player for the next three or four years.

    He is the 8th highest paid player (we suspect) and would be the fourth youngest, younger than Pirlo, Kaka, Villa or Dempsey. He would not have made the top 10 last year.

    THAT, sir, is a very good question.

    The only downside is we look like idiots (still) if it does not work out.
    Of course, the Fire are idiots and have been for the better part of a decade, so that is not such a bad thing.
     
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  22. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    Greatest signing ever.
     
  23. Sachsen

    Sachsen Member+

    Aug 8, 2003
    Broken Arrow, Okla.
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Country:
    United States
  24. Pedro Rondon H de Sá

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jan 13, 2014
    Rio de Janeiro
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Country:
    Brazil
    George John was a great player, does anyone have any news of him? He retired ?

    Will Packwood, A.J. Soares, Zak Whitbread and Jack McInerney are good players and are agents free, any professional US soccer team will hire them?
     
  25. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    Honestly, I don't know what to expect out of Schweinsteiger. He just hasn't played enough lately. If Chicago gets a pretty healthy, out to prove something player, he'll be one of the best players in the league. But he should have come two years ago, when Beckenbauer told him to.
     

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