2017 Hot Seat

Discussion in 'Women's College' started by StevenLa, Mar 10, 2017.

  1. From Me to You

    From Me to You New Member

    Nov 30, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
  2. staffstaff

    staffstaff Member

    Sep 12, 2016
    Club:
    AC Milan
    UMBC has been open for a month.
     
  3. theguru

    theguru Member

    May 7, 2008
    Former Loyola head coach KV very interested in Towson.
    JMU has the best candidate already there just make the hire before you lose him.
     
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  4. soccer1212

    soccer1212 Member

    Jan 17, 2017
  5. PoetryInMotion

    COYS
    Feb 7, 2015
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Well, there goes my credibility, I apologize. Let’s just say many in the state and region are shocked not only by the hire but also by the fact the assistant wasn’t promoted...not necessarily that he deserved its based on record, it was just common thought the last few weeks that it was a done deal.
     
  6. Collegewhispers

    Oct 27, 2011
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
  7. staffstaff

    staffstaff Member

    Sep 12, 2016
    Club:
    AC Milan
    It's Incarnate Word! There is a strong chance she was the only one that applied.
     
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  8. SoccerTrustee

    SoccerTrustee Member

    Feb 5, 2008
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    If Sean Driscoll gets a look from UConn that would be a great fit. He’s shown he can win and do well in the Tournament. Knows the area well as he coached with Fairfield when they used to do well (different caliber of player obviously) and at the club level with CFC. Would utilize those New England connections well. And would have to imagine it’s a pretty good $ increase from Princeton.
     
  9. Holmes12

    Holmes12 Member

    May 15, 2016
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Sean Driscoll turned UConn (and UMass) feelers down. Flat. Allegedly and rightfully he sees its better to babysit the #1 destination Ivy program than be on the hook with expectations to sell UConn. Ergo, a bad fit.
     
  10. LilKicker

    LilKicker Member

    Dec 9, 2014
    Club:
    Galatasaray SK
    HOLMES. FALSE.
     
  11. Collegewhispers

    Oct 27, 2011
    Club:
    Columbus Crew

    After the season driscoll had you would think he would be fielding a lot of calls. Very good job he’s done there.

    With us getting close to the holidays is there anywhere else getting close to on campus interviews or announcing? Seems slow right now.
     
  12. outsiderview

    outsiderview Member

    Oct 1, 2013
    Charlotte
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Would seem my predictions were correct, with dead period 5 days away these admin can wait until first of the year to make hires and save paying the salary.

    Although, I could still see one or two announcing this week. Miami (OH) surprises me, basically its been open since August so why no hire yet?
     
  13. Holmes12

    Holmes12 Member

    May 15, 2016
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    #838 Holmes12, Dec 10, 2017
    Last edited: Dec 10, 2017
    No, my dear bogus second (or third) account. True.

    He has whispers and is not leaving. It's my conjecture, but he has an awesome situation. Princeton is the Stanford of the Ivy. He's not sweating money allowances (lessening both his burden and accountability), quality kids come to him. It's not like he's at Columbia or Dartmouth or Brown. Those places, i can see him bolting but he's nestled like a bug in the rug in the nexus of industry money. The affluent all want to go Princeton. He is very sucked up to. When he talks, he reminds me of Richard Haydn in The Sound of Music. He's rolling in greenbax.
     
  14. Holmes12

    Holmes12 Member

    May 15, 2016
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    #839 Holmes12, Dec 11, 2017
    Last edited: Dec 11, 2017
    Bill Tierney took a 30k pay cut to leave Princeton for UD. Part of that, i suppose is that he socked money away all those years on his way to approaching retirement but cost of living made it somewhat more equitable. Does Driscoll get that at UConn or UMass (the pay will be less, despite wrong presumption above) or anywhere else within the eastern industrial soccer complex? He also knows that he can't compete in women's soccer with national expectations from out of New England/north or the continental interior. Tierney has high supply, as with any men's sport. So the only way Driscoll leaves is for a boatload from southerly/coastal P5 or cali, and I still wouldn't think he would go.
     
  15. MAGA DTS!

    MAGA DTS! New Member

    Jan 12, 2017
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    On campus interviews this week at Pitt.
     
  16. chch

    chch Member

    Aug 31, 2014
    zero inside info, but Princeton has huge financial need packages, meaning Pton can likely offer high quality soccer girls same cost of attendance (or lower) as fractional scholarship at P5 schools. Until female pro-soccer players make salaries typically in excess of several hundred thousand a year in a pro-league (which may never happen), the goal will always be education, hard to beat Pton. The test scores for recruited athletes and academic index are made opaque on purpose but basically talking ACT28 (if URM) or 30 if not minority are very easy to find in pay to play soccer girls. So makes no sense to leave top Ivy for run of the mill schools mentioned. Further, I doubt Pton cares enough to match salaries in money losing title9 sports if a coach wants to leave them they won't get a counteroffer.
     
  17. chch

    chch Member

    Aug 31, 2014
    curious if anyone knows if soccer test scores vary by school to school in ivies based on other sports . For example, Harvard's men's basketball team has greatly increased the talent level of it's recruits, does that mean they are trading ACT test points from men's basketball to other sports, so that the overall 'academic index' stays the same? Also, heard some schools value their hockey teams for example, so wondering how all that works while still maintaining an academic index across the athletic department...
     
  18. theguru

    theguru Member

    May 7, 2008
    Jason Hamilton of Troy to ECU
     
  19. theguru

    theguru Member

    May 7, 2008
    Miss State as well. Great hire for ECU.
     
  20. SoccerTrustee

    SoccerTrustee Member

    Feb 5, 2008
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    #845 SoccerTrustee, Dec 11, 2017
    Last edited: Dec 11, 2017
    To think an Ivy coaching job pays more than UConn soccer is ludicrous.

    Here is a 2011 article about Harvard. Average women’s sports coach there made $66,000. Doesn’t mention women’s soccer specifically, and it is Harvard in 2011, not Princeton in 2017. But this gives an idea.
    http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2011/4/14/teams-coaches-mens-according/

    Now look at this. You can get state salary information pretty easily. Women’s Soccer head coach salary for Lenny at UConn in this 2017 article? $150,000. The men’s coach Ray Reid makes $323,000. I think a pay hike of $60-$70K and the option to go back home (he is from CT) is a good deal. No camp info but you can make a killing on either location for that. http://www.rep-am.com/sports/uconn/the-coaches/2017/01/26/womens-soccer-len-tsantiris/
     
  21. outsiderview

    outsiderview Member

    Oct 1, 2013
    Charlotte
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
  22. Holmes12

    Holmes12 Member

    May 15, 2016
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    #847 Holmes12, Dec 11, 2017
    Last edited: Dec 11, 2017
    The UConn guy was a state employee for oh, only, 37 years. Step increases and such? Like they're going to start a woman's soccer coach at 150k. If UConn gets a look from Sean Driscoll that would be a bad fit.

    Is there anything else you have on this dormant matter?
     
  23. Collegewhispers

    Oct 27, 2011
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
  24. Collegewhispers

    Oct 27, 2011
    Club:
    Columbus Crew

    They could keep the salary that high if they get the right person. I have to disagree that Driscoll would be a bad fit based on what he has done. Why not give they guy a shot? If someone has success at the level he has I think it is worth taking the risk that he may indeed be a good fit.


    Although Driscoll could probably stay put another year and take the Syracuse job when Wheddon runs out of his lives after 2018
     
  25. Holmes12

    Holmes12 Member

    May 15, 2016
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    #850 Holmes12, Dec 12, 2017
    Last edited: Dec 12, 2017
    Whispers, you're working under the presumption that it's UConn's choice to make and UConn has the leverage (which is typical of most women's soccer turnover) and that Driscoll would "jump" at it. It's completely the other way around and Driscoll has it way too good at Princeton. It's a bad fit for Driscoll, considering what he has, for reasons outlined by me and chch.

    UConn (more expectations, more responsibility, more vetting, more selling) is a far < flat move towards southerly/coastal or Cali P5 on a thinner rung. If he even wants the P5 thing. I think he'd career at Princeton, where he's king of the world... king of money...nestled in the womb of pay to play soccer...wahooo! yaaa hooo!
     

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