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Discussion in 'Women's College' started by StevenLa, Mar 10, 2017.
Figured since it's March it was time to move on from 2016.
I BELIEVE THE ONLY D-1 HEAD COACH SLOTS STILL OPEN ARE:
ARKANSAS - PINE BLUFF
Grambling is currently listing its head coach as TBA. Otherwise, I have the same two that you do.
Grambling has readvertised. Tough sell.
You would have to think Oregon will be hot this fall. No way that coach can escape another year where the program underperforms surely?
Well, I guess if you say it enough times eventually you'll be right.
Yes, indeed, and I believe that Collegewhispers has also being saying the same thing for the last two years about Miami (Fl) coach Mary-Frances Monroe and Pitt's Greg Miller. So he's bound to be proven correct multiple times in due time!
(Actually, I can't disagree with Collegewhispers overall observational logic, but the timing of the hot the seat has been elusive so far. Those who actually do the firing and hiring are so dang unpredictable.)
Good point! Being a hot seat thread this is all about who we project to be on the hot seat. As a college coach I can say that many others I know in this profession bring up the same jobs they feel should have different/better coaches. The most discussed are Pitt, Syracuse, Miami, Oregon, and Texas. These programs are widely seen as failures among our profession.
Please define "our profession."
Not really hot seat news but an unfortunate update of a university cutting sports: http://www.ubbulls.com/general/2016-17/releases/20170403cae0jo
Men's Soccer among 4 sports cut at Buffalo. Down to 16 sports now there which is the required minimum number of teams to remain Division I. MAC only has 4 schools now with men's soccer, 5 if you count WVU.
Women's Soccer there is safe so no concern there.. Crazy to see in times such as these that a program can just be terminated.
This happened to Maryland as well in 2012, but didn't affect the soccer programs. 8 sports were discontinued, but men's and track and field fundraised to save their program so 7 sports eventually were cut. Will be curious if this happens to any more public institutions that depend on state funding and also student activity fees to keep their athletics department afloat.
Richmond, Towson, Mt. St. Marys all dropped men's soccer recently. Towson and Richmond (and now Buffalo) seem to be holding onto the dream of making money from college football somehow. Some schools/administrators just think its a requirement to support pointy football no matter what. MSM had no excuse but is bringing their men's soccer team back.
I think it does affect women's soccer. Seeing a strong commitment to soccer for both genders can only help both genders. I'm still shocked the SEC doesn't sponsor men's soccer and it would be foolish to think the SEC can become a dominant "soccer conference" without sponsoring the sport for both genders! The ACC and Big10/PAC12 have that advantage as long as the SEC looks down its nose at men's soccer.
Also relevant to hotseat as less college jobs for all coaches hurts everyone in the market, or increases the quality of the applicants perhaps, depends on your perspective I guess.
Richmond lost men's soccer because a donor came in and dropped a million to start lax...they could not support both!
There seems to be trouble brewing at Campbell? Recruits being told a lot of different things, maybe a take over?
That is looking like a real hot mess!
Co-head coaches and an Associate head coach...come on!!!
The SEC may not be THE dominant or as established "soccer conference" but they are certainly a women's soccer contender and if you look at how deep Auburn went in 2016, along with South Carolina in each of the past two/three years, you should be more impressed. UNC/USC in the tournament last year, the Gamecocks outshot UNC 9-7 but were outscored 1-0. That's not a world of difference and to say the SEC would be only the fourth best conference in the sport is not really a denigration because they're not so far behind the others.
College coaches. Easy enough?
There could be nothing further from the minds of parents, recruits and coaches in women's soccer than men's soccer. Ridiculous. In fact, being the only soccer game in town is a good thing, as olegaga and the seven thieves pointed out in the coming power shift thread.
Football is on a lot of minds, not only providing the cash/facilities but the overall college experience. "Ranked" (i.e. paid for exposure) recruits (i.e. parents) often only consider schools with football teams.
The SEC will be THE preeminent women's soccer conference, just as they are in every other sport where they field numerous teams. Look at women's lacrosse...two SEC schools...Florida is an annual national title contender (currently #3) and Vanderbilt is ranked as a top ten destination (although not really the real SEC experience).
You will find knuckleheads out there who think cutting men's sports or not offering them is somehow good for women's sports. You know one of the reasons kids play certain sports is because their parents played those sports and so there's a soccer ball in the crib, backyard, etc. and most kids have 2 parents. Most alums like to support schools who have actually NOT cut their sport. Any conference having such disdain for men's soccer will have trouble being considered a good "soccer conference".
Soccer is unusual in team sports in that it's the exact game for both genders but I think you can make the argument for mens/womens lacrosse, baseball/softball, etc. How can you have a good "soccer school" or "lacrosse school" that only offers the sport to about half its students? Do hard core SEC soccer people sit around hoping they don't have a boy who plays?
I fully support Title IX and women should have every opportunity to play any sports when there is interest and competition available. But everyone in soccer benefits when the game of soccer is supported and respected for both genders at every level.
[Off soapbox, sorry for hijack but I have a boy and a girl and it's been very interesting to compare/contrast the opportunities they have - playing, officiating, coaching, all of it]
Holmes12, maybe you should look again at the Women's Lacrosse rankings. 8 teams from the ACC in the top 25. 1 team from the SEC. Bad comparison on your part I think. There is no doubt that UF since the first season as a lacrosse program have been very good. That was going to happen as the AD there was a lacrosse player and very committed to having that program be the best in the country. Yes football had a part in making that happen. However, that was more of the AD doing that than anything else. Take a look at that lacrosse stadium he built that program before they even played one game.
Since we are in Full Speculation Mode - which coaches do we think are potentially in trouble this year....
Ie, Is Pensky in trouble if Tennessee doesn't make the Tournament?
Walker in risk at Ohio State?
as mentioned above - Syracuse, Miami, Pitt....
luv, the point is UF and Vanderbilt are the only SEC schools sponsoring women's lacrosse.The latter portion of your post proves my point. Where did that money come from to build a stud stadium before they even played one game? Not the lax-loving ADs pockets. SEC football rules all.
bigwest, wasn't he just hired? Give him or UMCP credit, somebody's resisting staff nepotism there. Although I think he won't ultimately cut it from the number of transfers out (Morgan had more personable connection to the players, Leone, what I heard of him from Harvard, is more hard-scrabble).
Pensky has done less with more resources then almost anyone in the P5.
Walker must just be low priority at OSU.
UMD - Leone likely signed for 5 years and is still in year 1. Unless his plan to bring Tracey in is stymied, I don't see him leaving anytime soon. Decent class will help.
The ACC should see some turnover in 2017 for sure.
Agreed about some big schools having turnover
Pitt- easy decision: hire a new coach
Syracuse- easy decision: hire a new coach
Miami- easy decision: hire a new coach
Oregon-easy decision: hire a new coach
Ohio State- not an easy decision, but if they decide they want a good coach: hire a new coach
Syracuse and Pitt both need changes this year. Miami and Oregon may get one more year. Ohio state and Texas have two train wrecks as coaches but may have time.
Miami?? They just had one of the best years in school history.