2017 Fire Roster Speculation

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  1. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I was just editing my post, to add that I would expect Meira on the bench by summer.
     
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  2. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    A 3-5-2 might be risky.
    A 4-3-3 might be risky.
    A 4-4-2 would work horribly.

    We didn't put these pieces together.
     
  3. Joe in CO

    Joe in CO Member

    Dec 1, 2015
    Jamestown, CO by way of Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I'd probably try a 4-3-3 with Niko and Schweinie playing a bit above their respective lines. I don't have enough faith in our current personnel to run a 3 man back.

    Niko
    Accam MDL

    Schweinie
    Dax Juninho

    Vincent, Campbell, Kap, Polster
     
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  4. splunge63

    splunge63 Member+

    Mar 30, 2014
    west burbs
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I'd flip Kap and Polster because I don't think Polster is fast enough to play fullback. FWIW, not sure if Polster can beat out Meira.
     
  5. HerthaBerwyn

    HerthaBerwyn Member+

    May 24, 2003
    Chicago
    After seeing Atlanta Im not sure what difference all of this makes. With the South American leagues in such financial trouble, its a slam to get guys here for less money but money actually paid and ...no kidnappings!!! So, ******** the USL. Buy a midtable Argentina league team and make it solvent. Attract Hotshot kids and send them north!
     
  6. Joe in CO

    Joe in CO Member

    Dec 1, 2015
    Jamestown, CO by way of Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I still feel best about the Campbell/Kap CB pairing but I could be wrong. Kap certainly does fine out on the right and Meria has been solid (ATL aside) but I still feel like I prefer Meria as the first defensive sub off of the bench or fill in for injury/suspension. I mainly feel like Polster just needs to be on the field when healthy and Harrington clearly needs to be off of it. He simply can't be worse than Harrington at RB and it wouldn't require an acquisition (though we should sign another RB regardless). Playing Polster as a RB would allow him to get up the field occasionally as well which he is definitely capable of.

    The only thing I am certain of is that I absolutely do not trust Pauno's judgment and know he'll somehow still bungle the starting 11.
     
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  7. goldclover

    goldclover Member+

    Mar 25, 2010
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I would want this. Harrington off the field no matter what formation. Reserve/bench depth at most for him. Start Lion anytime healthy. Have all three new mids together on field same time as much as possible. BS, Dax and Juni. Trade/sell Harrington for anyone else summer transfer window. Go Fire!
     
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  8. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
    Chicago
    I've been banging the Argentine drum for several years now. Success in this league isn't a secret.
     
  9. Martininho

    Martininho Member+

    Feb 13, 2007
    Chicago
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yep.
     
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  10. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Are foreign ownerships allowed to buy Argentinian clubs, many countries have protectionism when it comes to stuff like that.
     
  11. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    There's probably a way around that....
     
  12. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And thanks to Trump's Executive order, it is now perfectly ok to bribe foreign governments, but that may only apply to oil companies, I am not sure.
     
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  13. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I don't think Argentinean football has any protections at all.
    That's why Tevez and Mascherano's contracts could be owned by third parties, like that douchebag Kia Joorabchian.
    That's why the corruption in Argentina football runs so deep.
    That's why the league is in suspension and the players went on strike, despite a large payout by the government.
     
  14. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I do believe the AFA problem is that the government cut off the pay off, last thing I knew the FA was suing the government because of that.

    The last government (Kitchner) was using soccer as a persona PR campaign. The new President cut off that.
     
  15. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    The AFA problem is that they have not had a president of the AFA since 2014, when the long time president died. It has been chaos since then (...and probably was before he died).

    Players weren't paid for about four months (BBC stated five months), despite a $22 million payment from the government at the beginning of March.

    It all stemmed from the TV contract. The government controlled the tv contract and spun it off. There was a report on NPR a couple of weeks ago that explained. it.
     
  16. lethargytartare

    lethargytartare Member+

    Oct 2, 2000
    Magrathea, Horsehead Nebula
    Club:
    Yeovil Town FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    we should have at least tried starting out with the Vincent-Meira-Campbell-Kap back line that won through performance last season. Instead, Pawno went back to the opening day 2016 back line that sucked. It makes no goddamned sense.
     
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  17. GHjelm

    GHjelm Member+

    Apr 23, 2008
    Batavia
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I think they must have figured they had a RB lined up or that they are seriously pursuing one and wanted some continuity throughout this season. Hell, maybe they even expected Basti and are preparing to go to three in the back.

    I guess, I'd be shocked if even our coach/FO was this stupid.
     
  18. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    All of the moves being made (Nikolic, Juninho, Schweinsteiger, even McCarty, since he has more upside controlling the midfield than Polster) indicate a more dynamic, fluid, offensive-minded team.

    This makes the unceremonious dumping of Joevin Jones even more bizarre. Decent defender, able to move forward, good distribution. He would seem like the perfect left back/left wing back for this type of system. Oh, and I failed to mention that he is pretty inexpensive.

    Also, other than Accam, there is no speed on this team at all.

    Nikolic-he is a "poacher". I don't know about his quickness yet (others are calling him "slow", I would like to see a few more games first)
    DeLeeuw-he is quickly earning a solid reputation here, but not for his pace.
    Alvarez-No
    McCarty-No
    Schweinsteiger-never known for being speedy, certainly not now
    No one on the bench has much quickness.

    None of the defenders are able to push up at all. The only one I would give half a chance to would be Kappelhoff at right back.


    Trivia question (no cheating): "Who/what did the Fire receive in exchange for Amarikwa?"
    (I had no idea, until I looked Quincy up)
     
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  19. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Oh, come now. You DEFINITELY know that our coach/FO could be this stupid.


    I am shocked that you'd be shocked. ;)
     
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  20. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
    Chicago
    I'll see your Quincy and raise you an Oduro.
     
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  21. HerthaBerwyn

    HerthaBerwyn Member+

    May 24, 2003
    Chicago
    DK Amerikwa (******** yeah) Oduro got them Dilly Duka and the rights to Robbie Rogers which got them McGee.
     
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  22. sWo97

    sWo97 Member+

    Aug 18, 2008
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fire draft Calen Carr
    Calen Carr wins the USOC in his rookie year
    Fire trade Calen Carr to Houston for Dominic Oduro
    Fire trade Dominic Oduro to Columbus for Dilly Duka and the rights to Robbie Rodgers
    Fire trade the rights to Robbie Rodgers to LA for Mike Magee
    Fire trade Dilly Duka to Montreal for Sanna Nyassi
    Fire release Sanna Nayassi
    Fire release Mike Magee
    Fire Houdini turned a draft pick (Calen Carr) into nothing
     
  23. Gamecock14

    Gamecock14 Member+

    May 27, 2010
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    So what happens to David Arshakyan? Are they trying to sweep him under the rug.
     
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  24. Jiggly_333

    Jiggly_333 Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 8, 2015
    Corner of Bedlam and Squalor (It's that way ->)
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    [​IMG]
     
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  25. lethargytartare

    lethargytartare Member+

    Oct 2, 2000
    Magrathea, Horsehead Nebula
    Club:
    Yeovil Town FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    a rug that big is beyond the Hauptman budget.
     

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