2017 CONCACAF League [R]

Discussion in 'CONCACAF Champions League' started by Paul Calixte, May 30, 2017.

  1. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Country:
    United States
    CONCACAF dropped the hammer on Olimpia: a six-game empty-stadium sanction. :eek::eek::eek:

     
  2. El Chico Carmona

    Mar 10, 2015
    Baraboo, Wisconsin
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    I remember when Mexico used to say the same about Beisbol.
    It's only a matter of time before MLS surpasses Liga MX on all fronts. The only real question is when?.
    It may take a decade or 2, maybe longer, but it is inevitable. The financial growth potential for MLS is something Liga MX simply can't match.
     
  3. It's called FOOTBALL

    It's called FOOTBALL BigSoccer Yellow Card

    May 4, 2009
    No, it isn't a matter of time. It will simply never happen, stop dreaming.
     
  4. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Country:
    United States
    The semifinals are upon us... (home team first, times US Eastern)

    First leg

    Wednesday, September 13:

    Árabe Unido (PAN) vs. Santos de Guápiles (CRC), 10:00 p.m.

    Thursday, September 14:

    Plaza Amador (PAN) vs. Olimpia (HON), 10:00 p.m.

    Second leg

    Thursday, September 21:

    Santos de Guápiles (CRC) vs. Árabe Unido (PAN), 8:00 p.m.
    Olimpia (HON) vs. Plaza Amador (PAN), 10:00 p.m.

    Once again, in the U.S., Univisión Deportes Network is sticking to showing the CL live on Thursdays only.

    Btw, friendly reminder that other than the Honduras Progreso-over-Chorrillo blemish, my bracket's perfect so far :D
     
  5. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Nassau County, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Country:
    United States
    I got 5 out of 8 right and then 3 out of 4 right. I predicted Alajuelense to finish second and they were one of two clubs to be eliminated without scoring. Panama could get to celebrate qualifying for the World Cup and having an all-Panamanian CONCACAF League Final. The most recent UNCAF tournament (that was a CONCACAF Champions Cup qualifier) to have the top two clubs from the same country was the 12th most recent one in 1996 when Alajuelense was first and Saprissa was second. That tournament had only four clubs, with two each from Costa Rica and Guatemala.
     
  6. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Country:
    Canada
    except skills
     
  7. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Country:
    United States
    Doesn't matter - money is everything in this game, which is why the EPL rules the Champions League with an iron fist :D:p
     
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  8. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Country:
    Canada
    You mean Spain (La Liga) right? :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
     
  9. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Country:
    United States
    Forgot to put that /s :p
     
  10. Maximiliano Biancucchi

    Jul 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Country:
    Mexico
    :laugh: Heard the same shit 10 years ago :ROFLMAO:
     
  11. El Chico Carmona

    Mar 10, 2015
    Baraboo, Wisconsin
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    You'll hear it again 10 years from now, and 10 years after that. Eventually, I'll be right.
     
  12. Maximiliano Biancucchi

    Jul 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Country:
    Mexico
    The prestige is in Europe man.

    UEFA Champs League, Balon d'Ro etc wont help you land the best players not to forget Mexico would be forced to improve their own league (due to media & fan pressure) the first moment they finally lose a CCL
     
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  13. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Country:
    Canada
    It's not just money my friend. The Mexican pool is much much much more talented than the American pool.

    MLS might have more money to buy better internationals but that won't make the league better unless they relax the restrictions on internationals which in terms means that it would translate to less opportunities for Americans to play at a high level.

    When you understand the bigger picture, the silly Liga MX vs MLS becomes irrelevant
     
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  14. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Country:
    United States
    So...will VAR also be used to control goalkeepers wandering off the line during a penalty kick? It will be years before VAR sees the light of day in the CONCACAF League, but Árabe Unido really could've used it tonight - props to the Santos keeper for saving that PK, but he was a good yard off the line. o_O
     
  15. It's called FOOTBALL

    It's called FOOTBALL BigSoccer Yellow Card

    May 4, 2009
    No you won't.
     
  16. El Chico Carmona

    Mar 10, 2015
    Baraboo, Wisconsin
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    See, this right here is what people misunderstand. I'm not of the opinion that the USMNT talent pool will suddenly become better, just because MLS spends more.
    Liga MX and most leagues are light years ahead of where MLS is when it comes to player development.
    I'm saying that the league itself, MLS, will surpass Liga MX overall, top to bottom.
    When will that be?
    When the Mexican National team has a sizable MLS contingent of players that get consistently called up. That's when.
    Timewise, once MLS has it's full 28 teams, and can begin to focus on other areas besides expansion.
    All of that, is not as far away as you might think.
     
  17. El Chico Carmona

    Mar 10, 2015
    Baraboo, Wisconsin
    Club:
    FC Dallas
  18. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Country:
    Canada
    No

    Not sure I get you on this, safe to assume that:
    Mexicans in LigaMX>>>>>>>>>Mexicans in MLS

    So logically, Mexicans in Liga MX are more likely to be called up ahead of Mexicans playing in MLS.

    I make the prediction that MLS doesn't stop at 28. They'll keep expanding. I don't see the logic of your post, sorry
     
  19. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Country:
    Honduras
    RIP Plaza Amador
     
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  20. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Nassau County, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Country:
    United States
    Plaza Amador 1-7 Olimpia

    Since the CCL started in 2008-2009, the only times a non-Mexican club scored at least 7 goals before last night were San Francisco (Panama) 8-0 Verdes (formerly Hankook Verdes) (Belize) on October 22, 2015 and Herediano (Costa Rica) 8-0 Alpha United (Guyana) on July 26, 2011 in the Qualifying Round.
     
  21. El Chico Carmona

    Mar 10, 2015
    Baraboo, Wisconsin
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Olimpia, you just get the feeling that they will win this tournament.
     
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  22. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Country:
    Honduras
    Its a squad loaded with premium talent ready to be exported. They done good so far.
     
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  23. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Country:
    United States
    All goes well, you think Olimpia will be able to keep the team together for their (potential) CCL run? Or at least, not end up like Árabe Unido from last fall to this spring...
     
  24. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Country:
    United States
    Some people think peak CONCACAF is what happens on the field.

    Close.

    But you and I know where you find that 100% pure, uncut peak CONCACAF: in their written work. Namely, publishing tournament regulations and leaving out how the order of games in home-and-away series is determined.

    **collage of facepalms**

    So we'll have to take the following as our best indication of how this will play out for the Final:

    ..."of the final"?

    Wikipedia interprets this as the second leg of the Final being hosted by the finalist with the better record over all the previous rounds, not just the R16 and QFs. If they're right, the current table after five matchdays is:

    Santos de Guápiles 13
    Olimpia 12
    Árabe Unido 10
    Plaza Amador RIP

    Santos de Guápiles would need to win in order to guarantee that the second leg of the Final will take place at the Estadio Nacional in Costa Rica; should they sneak through on penalties after a second 0-0 draw, Olimpia could punk them by winning their second straight match against Plaza Amador so that this tournament finishes in the most appropriate scenario possible: in front of dozens of buzzing mosquitos in an empty stadium. :ROFLMAO: An Olimpia-Árabe Unido final also wraps up in Tegucigalpa.

    However, if the rankings among the four semifinalists are set in stone, then the winner of Santos de Guápiles - Árabe Unido will host the second leg of the final at their respective national stadium.
     
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  25. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Country:
    United States
    Olimpia could only manage a draw earlier this evening, so it's now set (if semifinal performance is taken into account for scheduling the Final:

    - If Santos de Guápiles advance by any result, they host the second leg of the Final

    - If Árabe Unido advance (outside of running up the score), Olimpia host the second leg of the Final

    - Either way, this is shaping up to be the worst attendance in the history of CONCACAF finals at any level. :ROFLMAO:
     
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