Pre-match: 2017 CONCACAF Gold Cup Group Stage: USA vs Martinique

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by Sebsasour, Jul 8, 2017.

  1. um_chili

    um_chili Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    Losanjealous
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  2. Dervos

    Dervos Member+

    Mar 13, 2002
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Meanwhile, His French page is up to date :ROFLMAO:
     
  3. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
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  4. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Besler and Gonzo played exactly as mandated by Bruce's tactical scheme. They played as defend first/safety first CBs. The scheme requires:
    • They don' try to initiate offense out of the back.
    • They don't try to aggressively take space off the dribble.
    • They don't try to provide offensive overload support.
    • They don't provide high press/high pressure.
    • They don't try to aggressively challenge, attack and disrupt the opposition on transition.
    • They try to never get beat over the top. This was especially clear vs Panama!

    There is nothing wrong with the above tactical plan, it is just the scheme that Bruce chooses to play and that is what we saw against Panama.
     
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  5. Gilma1990

    Gilma1990 Member+

    Jul 30, 2015
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We will lose.
     
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  6. Borrachin

    Borrachin Member+

    Feb 28, 2006
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Awesome! It seems like our tactical plan has improved since the 90s. Looking forward to World Cup next year.............oh yeah, sarcasm.
     
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  7. Cannons

    Cannons Member+

    May 16, 2005
    Arena likes his haircut though so he's in
     
  8. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just as an FYI, it appears programming has swapped. This game will be on FS1, with Saturday's being on FXX. My understanding is that all the knockout round games will be on FS1
     
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  9. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Zardes makes nothing better.
     
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  10. Black Tide

    Black Tide Member+

    Mar 8, 2007
    the 8th Dimension
    Not sure why some people want to sit a hot striker... I would do something like this.

    --------------------Dwyer--------------------
    ---Morris--------Rowe--------Arriola---
    ------------Acosta----McCarty------------
    Villafana--Hedges--Beasler--Bedoya
    --------------------Guzan--------------------

    Since we are trying things out I propose Bedoya at right back
     
  11. juveeer

    juveeer Member+

    Aug 3, 2006
    Any word on the actual lineup yet?
     
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  12. kansascity.lincoln

    Jun 14, 2011
    Kansas City, MO
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    2-1 victory!! Starting Zusi tonight is not recommended, IMO. Perfect option to sub into a game if we are stale on offense and tied or behind. Will be great watching Dwyer again control, frustrate and SCORE against any defense they mark him with; it just frees up Morris or Agudelo for the square pass. I see this as a must get three points effort game, making the 3rd game a scrimmage for Arena. Start Guzan don't mess with keepers tonight. Any player chosen tonight for the center back line will work just fine, provided we have a midfield that can keep possession by way of ZERO unforced turnovers/passing errors. Midfield is key. Must FEED DWYER!!!! Long Live Preki!
     
  13. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not sure why someone would want to sit arguably our best performing prospect in MLS this season (Roldan) for the 3rd straight game, and start McCarty again against speed, when it's an opponent we should be expected to beat, and when he + Acosta together had trouble building up last game.

    You shouldn't be acting like the voice of reason when you're suggesting things like that, not only playing Bedoya but at rb where he's been a horror show in limited opportunities w/ the U.S. (in the process tethering the Nottingham Forest player of the year to the bench), keeping Hamid on the bench still for Guzan who we know, and putting Besler + Hedges on the opposite sides of their strong feet.
     
  14. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    The only reason would be the need to rest him a little. But it might make more sense to rest him against Nicaragua who are now down 2-1 to Panama in 2nd half.

    I think the kind of heat in Nashville is more brutal than the heat in Tampa, just from personal experience. Appalachian July days at noontime really suck it out of you. Tampa may be hot but I think it is more comfortable to play in and the game starts later. Maybe it's the ocean air.
     
  15. Gacm32

    Gacm32 Member+

    Chelsea
    Switzerland
    Nov 28, 2010
    Geneva
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    C'mon man, you know we're not allowed to see the lineup until 10 minutes before kickoff.
     
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  16. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I found Tampa more brutal than Nashville. It was muggy as f**k (but DC was the worst I've experienced in the States in summer). Obviously timing matters.
     
  17. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
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  18. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Brian Straus has a new theory here. Apparently Acosta and Dax need "support" and he suggests changing the team around to accommodate them.

    Acosta and Dax McCarty struggled, but absent the arrival of knockout-stage reinforcements like Michael Bradley or Darlington Nagbe, the pair remains a strong bet to start. They need more support, though. Joe Corona wasn’t able to connect with the pair against Panama, and bringing the likes of Bedoya or Kelyn Rowe inside or starting Paul Arriola might help the USA in possession.

    https://www.si.com/planet-futbol/2017/07/11/usa-martinique-gold-cup-bruce-arena-lineup
     
  19. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
  20. Gacm32

    Gacm32 Member+

    Chelsea
    Switzerland
    Nov 28, 2010
    Geneva
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Brian Strauss is an idiot. He wants to sacrifice creativity for more 'support'? Smh. We lack attacking ability already, and he wants to replace one of our few attacking players with somebody like Bedoya, who can't beat a player 1v1 or play a decent through ball to save his life.
     
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  21. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Washington DC is brutal in July. I lived there. The problem is that it is a valley and the Potomac throws off the humidity.

    The thing is that Tampa has the ocean and Florida is flat..Humidity makes it feel hot. Hot dry, dusty air in the mountains can fool you.
     
  22. Gacm32

    Gacm32 Member+

    Chelsea
    Switzerland
    Nov 28, 2010
    Geneva
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Not Gyasi and Gonzo... Ugghh
     
  23. jond

    jond Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
    Club:
    Levski Sofia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's sad that mentality engulfs this landscape.

    Not the mentality of a top or confident program.
     
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  24. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    Better 11 then against Panama.
     
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  25. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Acosta claimed his first two victims in Corona (winner Mex league title) and Dax (MLS East leader, plays wirth Schweinsteiger).

    I feel for poor Roldan. He's next.

    p.s. edit: I see Arriola is back for a second try. Maybe Acosta can finish him off here.
     

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