2017 AFC Champions League

Discussion in 'AFC: Tournaments' started by Angsa, Nov 17, 2016.

  1. greenlion

    greenlion Member

    Apr 22, 2004
    CHINA
    Club:
    Beijing Guoan
    Nat'l Team:
    China PR
    #301 greenlion, Jun 1, 2017
    Last edited: Jun 1, 2017
    They also need a seeding system to keep group balance, the strength between groups are unbalanced obviouslly this year all of the 8 teams in quarter final are from 4 groups, when they made the draw of group stage they just put League Chanpions in pot 1, Cup winners in Pot 2, League Runner-ups from big Leagues + Champions of minor League in pot 3, and qualifier winners in Pot 4, this format could not represent the quality of teams correctlly.

    previously AFC provided annual ranking for clubs, this site rank the clubs almost by the same mathod used by AFC

    http://globalfootballranks.com/en/Continent-Teams-Ranking/3/2017-04-01


    according to their November 26 2016 rankings, if the ACL draw is base on that, seeding pots should be like this.

    http://globalfootballranks.com/en/Continent-Teams-Ranking/3/2016-11-26

    West Asia
    Pot 1 Al Hilal; Al Ain; Lekhwiya; Al Ahli (Jeddah)
    Pot 2 Bunyodkor; Estghlal; Al Ahli (Dubai); Al Jazira

    East Asia
    Pot 1 FC Seoul; Guangzhou Evergrande; Suwon Bluewings; Western Sydney Wanderers
    Pot 2 Urawa Reds; Gamba Osaka; Shanghai SIPG; Jiangsu Suning

    In west asia, 3 of the 4 teams in QF are actually from the Hypothetic Pot 1

    While in East asia, is a total mass between strong teams, with Seoul, WSW,Urawa and Shanghai actually draws into the same group, GE grouped with Suwon, Gamba grouped wth Jiangsu, if they use the above pots teams like Mungthong and Jeju may have no chances to qualify from group stages to make numbers
     
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  2. gamban98

    gamban98 Member

    Dec 7, 2013
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    A Jeju substitute jumped off the bench, ran across the pitch and threw an elbow at Urawa player. :ROFLMAO:

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  3. +PL+

    +PL+ Member+

    Jun 22, 2015
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    That is not their first time doing this. Korean NT staff punched our sub GK in WCQs 2014 match in Seoul after they lost to us 1-0.

     
  4. kung_fu_kicks

    kung_fu_kicks New Member

    Jan 12, 2017
    Nat'l Team:
    China PR
    They did it again this week. :eek:

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    These idiots will never learn from the past. :mad: That's why they never apologize for their war crimes.

    J-League has a serious discrimination problem.

    News Analysis: Racism in Japanese soccer ignites concerns ahead of 2020 Olympics
    http://www.china.org.cn/world/Off_the_Wire/2014-03/14/content_31792785.htm
    J-League referee accused of racist language against player
    http://footballchannel.asia/2015/06/11/post4329/
    'Japanese only' banner turns spotlight on racism
    https://japantoday.com/category/features/opinions/japanese-only-banner-turns-spotlight-on-racism
    Mike Havenaar Racially Abused by Kashiwa Fans
    http://s-pulseukultras.blogspot.jp/2011/05/mike-havenaar-racially-abused-by.html
     
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  5. dinamo_zagreb

    dinamo_zagreb Member+

    Jun 27, 2010
    San Jose, CA / Zagreb, Croatia
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Croatia
    It would be OK to treat champions (of big four) as pot1 teams (as in UEFA since previous season) while rest should be divided using coefficients.
     
  6. greenlion

    greenlion Member

    Apr 22, 2004
    CHINA
    Club:
    Beijing Guoan
    Nat'l Team:
    China PR
  7. greenlion

    greenlion Member

    Apr 22, 2004
    CHINA
    Club:
    Beijing Guoan
    Nat'l Team:
    China PR
  8. greenlion

    greenlion Member

    Apr 22, 2004
    CHINA
    Club:
    Beijing Guoan
    Nat'l Team:
    China PR
    So Shanghai SIPG has to knock out another CSL club to win the title lol
    Bracket 2017.jpg
     
  9. dinamo_zagreb

    dinamo_zagreb Member+

    Jun 27, 2010
    San Jose, CA / Zagreb, Croatia
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Croatia
    Love the draw.

    Al-Hilal, Persepolis, Shanghai, Kawasaki are my picks.
     
  10. al ittihady

    al ittihady Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    Club:
    Al Ittihad Jeddah
    Nat'l Team:
    Saudi Arabia
    Strong draw for West Asia and no one can be picked easily -

    Hilal vs Ain will be interesting to watch since Ain is scoring freely these days and if at all Nasser Shamrani stays back with Ain he will be facing his former club plus Zoran Mamic coached Nasser FC of Riyadh so he knows well Hilal.

    Ahli vs Persopolis will be interesting pick too since Ahli will be all out to close the season with trophy and will be serious in the game..
     
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  11. glennaldo_sf

    glennaldo_sf Member+

    Houston Dynamo, Penang FC, Al Duhail
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So where will Ahli vs Persepolis be played given "Qatexit"? I'm assuming both games in Oman, or maybe Oman / Kuwait?
     
  12. Zandi360

    Zandi360 Member+

    Dec 10, 2013
    Club:
    Sepahan
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    Persepolis wants to move their home game to either Tajikistan or Turkmenistan
     
  13. al ittihady

    al ittihady Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    Club:
    Al Ittihad Jeddah
    Nat'l Team:
    Saudi Arabia
    I don't think it can happen if the ground was not used for official AFC matches..It should be Oman and UAE/Jordan... Kuwait is out question since FIFA has banned them...
     
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  14. greenlion

    greenlion Member

    Apr 22, 2004
    CHINA
    Club:
    Beijing Guoan
    Nat'l Team:
    China PR
    how about East Asia or Australia, will attract great crowds
     
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  15. dinamo_zagreb

    dinamo_zagreb Member+

    Jun 27, 2010
    San Jose, CA / Zagreb, Croatia
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Croatia
    Tajik and Turkmeni teams play in AFC Cup so there are grounds used in official matches.
     
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  16. al ittihady

    al ittihady Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    Club:
    Al Ittihad Jeddah
    Nat'l Team:
    Saudi Arabia
    How about taking it to Mars??
     
  17. Perspolis#1

    Perspolis#1 Member+

    Jun 27, 2011
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Take it wherever it's inconvenient for Al Ahli.

    Iraq/Uzbekistan/Australia/ are my top 3 picks
     
  18. +PL+

    +PL+ Member+

    Jun 22, 2015
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    I take only china, japan or Australia as true neutral ground for Persepolis.
     
  19. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pros > Cons on having it separated.
     
  20. William McRashid

    Jan 22, 2016
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    Poor game by Perspolis.
    However the referee denied 2 clear penalties.
    Well not surprising: Saudi team, Jordanian referee.
     
  21. dinamo_zagreb

    dinamo_zagreb Member+

    Jun 27, 2010
    San Jose, CA / Zagreb, Croatia
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Croatia
    Glad to see Guangzhou dismantled! Very glad!
     
  22. yudum

    yudum Member

    Jan 10, 2015
    Club:
    Consadole Sapporo
    This is where you're mistaken, and why you're having trouble understanding. The flag is generally not thought of within Japan as the same thing as the Nazi flag.

    The Nazi flags were created for a specific purpose, to represent a specific government and a specific cause. When that cause was defeated, the flag lost all meaning, and flying it became a statement of direct agreement with the old cause.

    The rising sun flag was adopted way before pro-fascists came to power in Japan, and was a symbol of Japanese military during the pre-fascist era, including wars with China and Russia, World War I, where Japan fought on the allied side and Siberian intervention. And its variations are still flown as naval ensign and banners of the current Self-Defense forces.

    Only Koreans and some Chinese consider the rising sun flag offensive. Your unhealthy obsession with the flag is insane. Unfortunately we invaded Taiwan and Southeast Asia too but they don't give a damn about the flag.
     
  23. dinamo_zagreb

    dinamo_zagreb Member+

    Jun 27, 2010
    San Jose, CA / Zagreb, Croatia
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Croatia
    Hilal trashes Ain 3-0 and qualifies to semis.
     
  24. +PL+

    +PL+ Member+

    Jun 22, 2015
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    It will be awesome to see Persepolis qualifies for the next round. Apparently, CAIS ruled in favor of Iran to have the matches vs Saudi teams played in Iranian soil and not a third country. Imagine Al Hilal vs Persepolis in Tehran and Riyad in front of more than 50k fans.
     
  25. dinamo_zagreb

    dinamo_zagreb Member+

    Jun 27, 2010
    San Jose, CA / Zagreb, Croatia
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Croatia
    That would be great. I hope Persepolis can pull it off today and qualify to East final.
     
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