2017/21 Gaku Shibasaki @ Getafe CF (ESP)

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  1. AKITOD

    AKITOD Member+

    Apr 5, 2007
    Hobart, Aust
    Club:
    JEF United Ichihara
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Good move.
     
  2. HTCONEM8

    HTCONEM8 Member

    May 16, 2014
    Club:
    AC Milan
    I guess there he will get more play time then.
    Sometimes, I wonder if these European clubs have done their homework before buying any player, whether they really need him...etc.
     
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  3. Dax

    Dax Moderator
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    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Wait, did this really happen in the end?
     
  4. Samurai Warrior

    Samurai Warrior Member+

    Dec 2, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    No, it did not happen.
     
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  5. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    He got tons of work to do, something is wrong with him, really wrong.
     
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  6. HTCONEM8

    HTCONEM8 Member

    May 16, 2014
    Club:
    AC Milan
    I wish he stayed at Kashima. Y. Endo spent his whle career in Japan and he's miles better than some of those who played in Europe.
     
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  7. AKITOD

    AKITOD Member+

    Apr 5, 2007
    Hobart, Aust
    Club:
    JEF United Ichihara
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Even his basic passes were off. Positioning was off.

    I remember seeing him do a simple pass across from centre circle to a wide open Nagatomo. No pressure on him from the Qatari team and he almost put it out of bounds and made Nagatomo sprint backwards to collect it.

    If I recall he's had times of mentality breakdown too. Like when he pretended to be sick for a couple weeks when he went to Spain.
     
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  8. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Maybe he has psychic problems? Things can happend.
     
  9. AKITOD

    AKITOD Member+

    Apr 5, 2007
    Hobart, Aust
    Club:
    JEF United Ichihara
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    From a medical perspective his mood is quite openly up & down in a way I've rarely ever thought about for other football players. I don't think though there's enough based on how he interviews and all to give him a 'diagnosis'. To me it's more a mental strength thing than a psychological illness.
     
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  10. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Yes Im just speculating. Could be anything. Some players has showed themselves weaker than others. And stuff could've happen that we dont know about. His club situation is not ideal either. Would not suprise me if he went home soon.
     
  11. AKITOD

    AKITOD Member+

    Apr 5, 2007
    Hobart, Aust
    Club:
    JEF United Ichihara
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    But I wouldn't lie I have wondered before if he has Bipolar disorder or Social Anxiety disorder.
     
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  12. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Yes. You probably know him better than I do but I thought it to. And its no joke if he is bearing it inside.
     
  13. AKITOD

    AKITOD Member+

    Apr 5, 2007
    Hobart, Aust
    Club:
    JEF United Ichihara
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    The way his form swings, it's not even within a range that you notice with other players. Most players are themselves +- 15% in performance.

    But throughout his career you see him up and down. Sometimes he looks like he could become one of the great CM's in the world like when he played against Real Madrid for Kashima and scored twice, or even when he was young in that U17 Japan team he looked like a total gangster. Then he'll have games like today, or really this whole tournament where he can barely put together a basic pass has no concept for positional play and looks like he doesn't even want to be there.
     
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  14. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Its really weird. And he delivered at the worlds biggest stage last summer so. It will be interesting to follow him now. Interesting and hard. Hehe
     
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  15. HTCONEM8

    HTCONEM8 Member

    May 16, 2014
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Interesting information. I've always thought people with bipolar disorders are unable to mingle with society let alone play a group sport like football.
     
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  16. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Many hide it pretty good. But someday you explode.
     
  17. AKITOD

    AKITOD Member+

    Apr 5, 2007
    Hobart, Aust
    Club:
    JEF United Ichihara
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    No there's lots of high functioning people with Bipolar. Lawyers, doctors, professionals, performers etc.
     
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  18. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Alot of them yes. When manic no one can stop them hehe.
     
  19. naopon

    naopon Member+

    Jan 2, 2007
    California
    Club:
    Kawasaki Frontale
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Probably not terribly useful or responsible to speculatively attribute Gaku's performance to an undiagnosed mental health condition. To me he just has certain player attributes which allow him to shine in certain matches and not in others - he is a liability in the negative transition (offense -> defense) phase of the game and thus Getafe's coach doesn't feel that Gaku is a great fit for central midfield.

    It was reported that he had agreed to a loan move to Deportivo La Coruña, but Getafe pulled out of the deal at the last minute having failed to secure a replacement (why would you need to replace a player who isn't playing at all?).
     
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  20. AKITOD

    AKITOD Member+

    Apr 5, 2007
    Hobart, Aust
    Club:
    JEF United Ichihara
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Gaku needs to go to gym a lot......
     
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  21. teioh

    teioh Member+

    Apr 17, 2012
    Look at what happened to Benatia and Juventus.
     
  22. teioh

    teioh Member+

    Apr 17, 2012
    Modric too. Wait...
     
  23. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    He is not injured right? Just totally out of it.
     
  24. Samurai Warrior

    Samurai Warrior Member+

    Dec 2, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    He is not injured.

    It was clear since the first half of the season that he does not fit in the team all-together, hence, I don’t know why didn’t he try to secure a loan move like what Inui did?
     
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  25. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Well I thought he was close to moving back to Segunda Division. Who knows, maybe try a new league and country.
     
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