2017-2018 Swiss BCL [r]

Discussion in 'Austria & Switzerland' started by RobtheAggie, Jun 20, 2017.

  1. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ARRRRRRRRH!!!!!
    Two goals in the last few min :(

    4 Dec
    Servette - Xamax 1-2

    Xamax 43 - Control their destiny now. They could loose both matches against Servette in the spring, and still stay ahead.
    Servette 35 - The draws to Wil, Winterthur and Wohlen loom very large now.
    Schaffhausen - 33
    Rapperswil-Jona 23
    Vaduz 23
    Chiasso 20
    Aarau 18
    Wohlen 13
    Winterthur 12
    Wil 11
     
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  2. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Leading goalscorers
    15 - Raphael Nuzzolo Xamax
    10 - Tunahan Cicek - Schaffhausen
    9 - Mychell Chagas - Rapperswil Jona
    7 - Geoffrey Treand Xamax

    Leading Assists
    9 - Charles-Andrew Doudin - Xamax
    8 - Alexandre Alphonse - Servette
    6 - Alain Schultz - Wohlen
    6 - Mike Gomes - Xamax
    6 - Mychell Chagas - Rapperwil-Jona
    6 - Helios Sessolo - Schaffhausen

    Attendance
    3,315 Xamax (8)
    2,978 Winterthur (9) +15
    2,873 Servette (9) +420 Great crowd for the Xamax match, but seem to lose the big match time after time.
    2,652 Aarau (9) - 55
    1,751 Schaffhausen (8) +65
    1,736 Vaduz (9) -9
    1,667 Rapperswil-Jona (8) -73
    930 Wil (9) -25
    687 Wohlen (7) -29
    544 Chiasso (8) -23
     
  3. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    8 Dec
    Xamax - Winterthur

    9 Dec
    Chiasso - Vaduz

    10 Dec
    Rappeswil-Jona - Aarau
    Wohlen - Servette

    11 Dec
    Schaffhausen - Wil
     
  4. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    8 Dec
    Xamax - Winterthur 2-1

    9 Dec
    Chiasso - Vaduz 0-1

    10 Dec
    Rappeswil-Jona - Aarau PPD
    Wohlen - Servette PPD

    11 Dec
    Schaffhausen - Wi 2-1

    The best possible result for Xamax, and the worst for Servette. With the postponed match, Xamax goes into the break with a 10 point lead on Schaffhausen and an 11 point lead over Servette. That is a long time to stew for both teams.

    Xamax 46
    Schaffhausen 36
    Servette 35*
    Vaduz 26
    Rapperswil - Jona 23*
    Chiasso 20
    Aarau 18*
    Wohlen 13 *
    Winterthur 12
    Wil 11
     
  5. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Leading goalscorers
    16 - Raphael Nuzzolo Xamax
    11 - Tunahan Cicek - Schaffhausen
    9 - Mychell Chagas - Rapperswil Jona
    7 - Geoffrey Treand Xamax

    Leading Assists
    10 - Charles-Andrew Doudin - Xamax
    8 - Alexandre Alphonse - Servette
    6 - Alain Schultz - Wohlen
    6 - Mike Gomes - Xamax
    6 - Mychell Chagas - Rapperwil-Jona
    6 - Helios Sessolo - Schaffhausen

    Attendance
    3,189 315 Xamax (9) - 126
    2,978 Winterthur (9) 5
    2,873 Servette (9)
    2,652 Aarau (9)
    1,736 Vaduz (9)
    1,667 Rapperswil-Jona (8)
    1,621 Schaffhausen (9) -130
    930 Wil (9)
    741 Wohlen (8) +56
    522 Chiasso (9) -22

    I wonder if Xamax and Schaffausen will be able to keep a hold on Nuzzolo, Cicek and Doudin. I will bet Xamax will try all that they can to keep their players in place.
     
  6. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wohlen has announced that they will not seek a license for the 2018-2019 season. This means that no matter what happens on the field, they will be relegated. Wil lives to see another day in the BCL.
     
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  7. KensingtonSC

    KensingtonSC Still Lazy After All These Years

    FC Vaduz / Philadelphia Union
    Jan 7, 2010
    Andalusia, PA
    Club:
    FC Vaduz
    Read about this yesterday. This means that 5 of the last 6 relegations in the BCL have been for non-sporting reasons. Wohlen said that it takes nearly 3 million CHF to operate a team in the BCL, and while that may not seem like much in the grand scheme of world football, it's obviously too much for a club like Wohlen. These problems are compounded when you're expected to fix the stadium you play in when the town won't help out with costs, even though they may own the stadium and land.

    One article I read had the right perspective: Instead of being a place where a club can grow young players and be an exciting competition, or at least be a place to be proud to place, it's almost like a dead-end job where you're either praying to advance or simply leave. There's no joy in playing in the Challenge League. At the same time, what's the point of trying to compete if you know you won't be relegated or promoted? What's the point of the competition right now? It's either going to be Xamax or Servette being promoted, and the rest of the matches are a waste of valuable resources, especially for clubs who have very little money. There's no hope of battling for Europe or a playoff place. There's no dogfight to stay up. Since most of the games seem meaningless, attendance stagnates. The SFL doesn't care. The standards are ridiculously high. We might see a 7 team Challenge League in a few years. It's a really bad situation overall.
     
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  8. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I thought the same the same thing. For the other 7 teams, there is no point to really try. There is no danger of being relegated, Servette will need a miracle to overtake Xamax. Boring.
     
  9. KensingtonSC

    KensingtonSC Still Lazy After All These Years

    FC Vaduz / Philadelphia Union
    Jan 7, 2010
    Andalusia, PA
    Club:
    FC Vaduz
    It's not just that it's boring, but there's really no incentive to get better as players, either, because the gulf between the RSL and BCL is so wide that it takes a really great talent to break through and get picked up by an RSL team. In the end, you just wind up kicking around mediocre teams who never go anywhere. It's a death spiral. And if you're an owner and you don't have the resources to go up, you're thinking that it would just be easier and cheaper to be an amateur or semipro club. We're going to keep seeing this year after year until something is done. Next year, it'll either be Wil or Chiasso, and the cycle will continue until we're left with almost nobody left to have a league. This is what happens when the rich clubs become too powerful and the small clubs can't afford to even remain afloat.
     
  10. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Now am not advocating this, but a 14-16 top league would include just about all of the teams that are committed. If the SFL is going to impose very strict rules on clubs, and make it a de facto closed league, they might as well just create that.

    I agree that there is very little incentive for Rappeswil-Jona to invest in the club. They are having a good season, but do they really stand a chance at being promoted? Their stadium does not work, Chiasso is the same. Why should they go after expensive talent when they could not make in the RSL. I think the SFL will need to talk a long look at this sooner than later.
     
  11. KensingtonSC

    KensingtonSC Still Lazy After All These Years

    FC Vaduz / Philadelphia Union
    Jan 7, 2010
    Andalusia, PA
    Club:
    FC Vaduz
    When the SFL was discussing changes, they involved all of the clubs from the SFL, and the Big 4 (FCB, YB, FCZ, GCZ) all basically said that they didn't want changes to be made because then they would have to share more revenue with more clubs who are all smaller who they felt wouldn't pull their weight in the league, so the SFL basically threw all changes out the window.
     
  12. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    While I see what the Big 4 are saying (as an aside it is funny to note that FCZ was in the BCL last season and GCZ have flirted with relegation the past few seasons) one of the largest markets in the country is still out of the league. There was a really good article on Blick about the BCL and how it s becoming an untenable league.
     
  13. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Matches restart this weekend

    2 Feb
    Vaduz - Xamax

    3 Feb
    Servette - Chiasso
    Wil - Wohlen

    4 Feb
    Winterthur - Rapperswil-Jona

    5 Feb
    Aarau - Schaffhaunse

    Xamax has a stretch of 4 games that they can really put promotion out of reach in the 1st month.
    @ Vaduz
    vs Aarau
    vs Servette
    @ Chiasso

    Servette's first 4 matches likely to determine who gets promoted
    vs Chiasso
    @Schaffhausen
    @Xamax
    vs Aarau

    Schaffhausen
    @Aarau
    vs Servette
    @ Rapperswil-Jona
    vs Wil

    If Xamax wins in Round 21 vs Servette, settle in for an even more boring spring than we are already in for.
     
  14. KensingtonSC

    KensingtonSC Still Lazy After All These Years

    FC Vaduz / Philadelphia Union
    Jan 7, 2010
    Andalusia, PA
    Club:
    FC Vaduz
    Welcome back, Challenge League!! Also known as "Xamax and the Also-Rans".
     
  15. Arrows

    Arrows Member

    Vitoria SC/Belenenses/Aarau
    Portugal
    Oct 29, 2013
    Canada
    Club:
    FC Aarau
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Anyone know where I might find an online feed of todays Aarau match with Schaffhausen?
     
  16. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    2 Feb
    Vaduz - Xamax 3-3 Vaduz was up 3-0, but let Xamax score three in a row, including one in the 95'.

    3 Feb
    Servette - Chiasso 1-1 Servette missed a massive chance to close the gap and make the BCL competitive this spring.
    Wil - Wohlen 1-1

    4 Feb
    Winterthur - Rapperswil-Jona 1-1

    5 Feb
    Aarau - Schaffhausen 2-1


    Xamax 47
    Servette 36
    Schaffhausen 36
    Vaduz 27
    Rappeswil-Jona 24
    Chiasso 21
    Aarau 21
    Wohlen 14
    Winterthur 13
    Wil 12
     
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  17. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Leading goalscorers
    16 - Raphael Nuzzolo Xamax
    11 - Tunahan Cicek - Schaffhausen
    10 - Mychell Chagas - Servette
    8 - Patrick Rossini - Aarau

    Leading Assists
    12 - Charles-Andrew Doudin - Xamax
    8 - Alexandre Alphonse - Servette
    6 - Alain Schultz - Wohlen
    6 - Mike Gomes - Xamax
    6 - Mychell Chagas - Rapperwil-Jona
    6 - Helios Sessolo - Schaffhausen
    6 - Milan Gajic - Vaduz

    Attendance
    3,189 315 Xamax (9)
    2,910 Winterthur (10) -68
    2,873 Servette (10) -99
    2,652 Aarau (10) -35
    1,736 Vaduz (10) -21
    1,667 Rapperswil-Jona (8)
    1,621 Schaffhausen (9)
    905 Wil (10) -25
    741 Wohlen (8)
    522 Chiasso (9)
     
  18. Arrows

    Arrows Member

    Vitoria SC/Belenenses/Aarau
    Portugal
    Oct 29, 2013
    Canada
    Club:
    FC Aarau
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    A win for Aarau yay!
     
  19. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    9 Feb
    Xamax - Aarau Come on Aarau!

    10 Feb
    Wohlen - Winterthur

    11 Feb
    Chiasso - Wil
    Rapperswil-Jona vs Vaduz

    12 Feb
    Schaffhausen - Servette
     
  20. Arrows

    Arrows Member

    Vitoria SC/Belenenses/Aarau
    Portugal
    Oct 29, 2013
    Canada
    Club:
    FC Aarau
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    I predict an Aarau win today over Xamax!
     
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  21. Arrows

    Arrows Member

    Vitoria SC/Belenenses/Aarau
    Portugal
    Oct 29, 2013
    Canada
    Club:
    FC Aarau
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    I just thought I would drop a quick note to say how much I appreciate this forum and especially the contributions from RobtheAggie and KensingtonSC that make supporting Swiss football in English a lot easier. I live in a footballing wasteland where locally I don't even know anyone who follows football even though the EPL and Bundesliga are on TV all the time sure you hear a few people talking about Man Utd and Chelsea and Bayern and Arsenal... sorry but no true football fanatics...just my luck that I'm in Canada!
     
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  22. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I hope so!
     
  23. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thanks for the kind words. The interaction here is what makes it fun.
     
  24. Arrows

    Arrows Member

    Vitoria SC/Belenenses/Aarau
    Portugal
    Oct 29, 2013
    Canada
    Club:
    FC Aarau
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Well it started off well for Aarau but their inability to defend corners did them in. Xamax is too good it's like men v. boys. We really need a play-off for 2 in the BCL against 9 in the RSL... teams like Zurich and Xamax just run away with things.
     
  25. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    9 Feb
    Xamax - Aarau 3-1

    10 Feb
    Wohlen - Winterthur 1-4

    11 Feb
    Chiasso - Wil 0-1
    Rapperwsil-Jona - Vaduz 1-2

    12 Feb
    Schaffhausen - Servette 0-1


    Xamax 50
    Servette 39*
    Schaffhausen 36
    Vaduz 30
    Rapperwswil - Jona 24*
    Chiasso 21
    Aarau 21*
    Winterthur 16
    Wil 15
    Wohlen 14*
     

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