2016 USL Attendance thread

Discussion in 'United Soccer Leagues' started by 30King, Mar 26, 2016.

  1. Prosoccercdn

    Prosoccercdn Member+

    Aug 6, 2011
    Club:
    FC Edmonton
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    No that won't be what keeps them from D2 obviously, but with the Usl attempting to meet higher standards in seeking D2 sanctioning for 2017 this reflects poorly on them to have their attendance reporting actually achieving lower standards this year and regressing from past years. Its not rocket science to have a competent staff reporting all attendances for a professional league.
     
  2. Prosoccercdn

    Prosoccercdn Member+

    Aug 6, 2011
    Club:
    FC Edmonton
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Aug 13

    4216 at OKC
    1292 at Charlotte
    3093 at Richmond
    3706 at Charleston
    6373 at Lou
    1905 at RGV
    5453 at St louis
     
  3. brentgoulet

    brentgoulet Member+

    Oct 12, 2005
    PuertoPlata, DomRep
    Cincinati and Rochester draw 1-1, in front of 14,157 at Nippert.
     
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  4. Traumer

    Traumer Member

    Feb 25, 2016
    Cincinnati
    Strong showing on a week night, curious how we do on Labor Day.
     
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  5. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Unofficial (obviously) and with only about 84% of games reported (been a challenging couple of weeks for USL reporting attendance):

    Team...........................Average
    FC Cincinnati...................16,742
    Sacramento Republic FC..........11,500
    Louisville City FC...............7,124
    San Antonio FC...................6,367
    OKC Energy FC....................4,971
    Saint Louis FC...................4,921
    Tulsa Roughnecks FC..............4,160
    Richmond Kickers.................4,005
    Charleston Battery...............3,946
    Rochester Rhinos.................3,717
    Wilmington Hammerheads FC........3,083
    Colorado Springs Switchbacks FC..3,049
    Bethlehem Steel FC...............2,478
    Real Monarchs SLC................2,322
    Portland Timbers 2...............2,297
    Pittsburgh Riverhounds...........2,115
    Rio Grande Valley FC.............1,962
    Swope Park Rangers KC............1,740
    Vancouver Whitecaps FC 2.........1,719
    Arizona United SC................1,579
    Harrisburg City Islanders........1,514
    Charlotte Independence...........1,416
    Seattle Sounders FC 2............1,358
    LA Galaxy II.....................1,118
    Orlando City B...................1,039
    Toronto FC II....................1,018
    Orange County Blues FC.............996
    New York Red Bulls II..............393
    FC Montreal........................375
    USL TOTAL........................3,675
     
  6. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here's who I'm missing (MLS O&O's in bold):

    Charleston (5)
    Montreal (4)
    NYRBII (4)

    Orange County (4)
    Orlando (4)
    Rochester (4)
    Bethlehem (3)
    Real Monarchs (3)

    Rio Grande Valley (3)
    Wilmington (3)
    Colorado Springs (2)
    Harrisburg City (2)
    LAGII (2)
    Portland (2)

    Charlotte (1)
    OKC (1)
    Pittsburgh (1)
    Sacramento (1)
    Saint Louis (1)
    San Antonio (1)
    Seattle (1)
    Swope Park (1)
    Toronto (1)

    Tulsa (1)
    Vancouver (1)

    I only have every game from Arizona, Cincinnati, Louisville and Richmond.

    I can't explain what Charleston's problem is. They don't even put attendance figures on all their own releases all the time. Clubs who have routinely been challenged to do the seemingly simplest things don't seem to be able to do this, either.

    I know the numbers exist. They're just not all getting onto USL's website for some reason.
     
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  7. Matthew Johnson

    Sep 6, 2013
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Realize this is me asking someone else to do my homework for me, but for those with attendance spreadsheets, how hard would it be to break down the attendance figures of independent clubs when playing other independents v MLS2 teams.

    Be some good info when trying to break down how much the MLS2 help and hurt USL as a whole.
     
  8. 30King

    30King Member+

    Jul 22, 2013
    Rocklin, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    It's been done. Minimal attendance difference for teams regardless of who the visiting team is. +/- 3% if I remember correctly.
     
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  9. Owen Thornhill

    Dec 22, 2012
    Club:
    Cork City
    T2 fell behind Real Monarchs in attendance, urgh. Thats partly due to Timbers front office having the Concacaf Champions league game on at the same time as the T2 game. I was at the CCL game like most, Im guessing there was barely 1,000 at it. Which T2 games are you missing?
     
  10. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    8/3 and 8/14 are the two I am missing.
     
  11. Owen Thornhill

    Dec 22, 2012
    Club:
    Cork City
  12. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    With very few exceptions, the identity of the visiting team has long been far, far less important than the day of the week, the time of the year and the resources brought to bear by the front office of the home team.

    Arizona doesn't draw when playing T2 or S2 not because people don't get excited about buying tickets to see T2 or S2 play, but because Arizona plays in a baseball stadium and it's 110 degrees here much of the time and they don't know what they're doing.

    But if you're truly curious, when Independent teams host other Independent teams, they average 5,009. When they host MLS2 teams, they average 5,129.

    Breaking it down further would result in very small sample sizes.
     
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  13. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  14. greenroom

    greenroom BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 16, 2012
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What week are you missing for San Antonio. I can see if I can get the attendance from the team. I know someone who might be able to give it to me.
     
  15. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    8/20 vs. Seattle.

    I routinely go back a couple weeks after the fact and check to see and sometimes numbers have miraculously appeared. But any help anyone can render is always greatly appreciated. Thank you!
     
  16. Blando13

    Blando13 Member+

    Dec 4, 2013
    Lee's Summit, MO
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Date?
     
  17. Owen Thornhill

    Dec 22, 2012
    Club:
    Cork City
  18. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I should probably just list all the dates I am missing, shouldn't I? ;)
     
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  19. greenroom

    greenroom BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 16, 2012
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    From SAFC 6417 .. Not saying they were all there.. ;)
     
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  20. Brother Badgerjohn

    Oct 16, 2000
    Okie City
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Kenn, which OKC date are you missing? I'll see what I can do.
     
  21. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    7/23 vs. Tulsa is the OKC game I need.

    Here's the list of what I'm still missing:

    Bethlehem 7/24, 7/31, 8/7
    Charleston 5/28, 6/11, 7/2, 8/3, 8/27
    Charlotte 5/21, 8/17
    Colorado Springs4/30, 5/27, 8/11
    Montreal 6/26, 7/9, 8/6, 8/10
    Harrisburg 7/10, 8/27
    LA Galaxy 5/28, 8/6
    New York 5/28, 6/9, 7/23, 8/19, 8/28
    OKC 7/23
    Orange County 6/4, 7/30, 8/7, 8/20
    Orlando City B 5/28, 7/24, 8/6, 8/21
    Pittsburgh 4/9, 8/5, 8/13
    Real Monarchs 7/2, 7/22, 8/13, 8/17
    Richmond 8/17
    Rio Grande 6/11, 6/26, 8/6
    Rochester 5/28, 7/10, 8/3, 8/6, 8/20
    Sacramento 8/20
    Saint Louis 4/30, 8/3
    San Antonio 8/17 (after further review)
    Seattle 7/24
    Swope Park 8/21
    Toronto 8/14, 8/28
    Tulsa 8/6, 8/18, 8/20
    Vancouver 4/17, 8/6
    Wilmington 6/3, 7/30, 8/20, 8/27
     
  22. greenroom

    greenroom BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 16, 2012
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    8/17 SAFC vs Arizona United 4326 Midweek and Crappy weather in area.. not bad during game, but before and after sucked..
     
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  23. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
    Delco
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    7/24 - 1,996
    7/31 - 2,176
    8/7 - 2,358


    all numbers from Bethlehem's website.
     
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  24. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thank you both!
     
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  25. 30King

    30King Member+

    Jul 22, 2013
    Rocklin, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
     
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