2016-17 Roster Movement Thread

Discussion in 'Sporting Kansas City' started by vividox, Oct 28, 2016.

  1. vividox

    vividox Moderator
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    Aug 10, 2005
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    #1 vividox, Oct 28, 2016
    Last edited: May 30, 2017
    ROSTER MOVEMENT:

    IN:
    12/02: Tyler Pasher (Swope Park Rangers)
    12/02: Adrian Zendejas (Swope Park Rangers)
    12/22: Andrew Dykstra (Re-Entry Draft Stage 2)
    12/26: Latif Blessing (Liberty Professional)
    12/26: Gerso Fernandes (Belenenses)
    01/09: Christian Volesky (Portland Timbers FC)
    01/10: Cameron Iwasa (Sacramento Republic FC)
    01/14: Ilie Sanchez (Elche CF)
    01/14: Colton Storm (MLS SuperDraft - signed 02/24)
    01/17: David Greczek (MLS Superdraft)
    01/30: Soony Saad (BEC Tero Sasana)

    OUT:
    10/28: Brad Davis (retirement)
    10/28: Bernardo Anor (waived)
    11/23: Ever Alvarado (option declined)
    11/23: Emmanuel Appiah (option declined)
    11/23: Nuno Andre Coelho (option declined)
    11/23: Connor Hallisey (option declined)
    11/23: Jon Kempin (option declined)
    11/23: Justin Mapp (option declined)
    12/12: Paulo Nagamura (retirement)
    12/13: Alec Kann (Expansion Draft; Atlanta United FC)
    12/21: Jacob Peterson (Atlanta United FC)
    01/21: Chance Myers (Portland Timbers FC)
    02/03: Lawrence Olum (Portland Timbers FC)
    02/08: David Greczek (Swope Park Rangers)
    02/27: Benji Joya (waived)
    02/27: Christian Volesky (waived)

    LOAN (IN):
    12/23: (01/01/17-12/31/17) Igor Juliao (Fluminense FC)

    LOAN (OUT):

    CURRENT APPROXIMATE DEPTH CHART:
    GK - Melia; Dykstra; Zendejas
    CB - Besler; Opara; Ellis; Palmer-Brown
    FB - Zusi, Sinovic, Abdul-Salaam; Pasher; Storm; Juliao
    DM - Espinoza; Sanchez; Mustivar
    AM - Feilhaber
    WF - Fernandes; Medranda; Blessing; Saad; Porter
    CF - Dwyer; Rubio; Salloi; Iwasa

    * Out of contract / option needs to be picked up / not officially signed
    ^ Disabled list

    International Players: Blessing; Fernandes; Juliao; Medranda; Mustivar; Pasher; Rubio; Salloi; Sanchez

    TIMELINE OF EVENTS:
    10/28: Brad Davis retires
    10/28: Bernardo Anor is waived
    11/16: Benny Feilhaber re-signs
    11/16: Ike Opara re-signs
    11/23: Options picked up on Saad Abdul-Salaam, Benji Joya, Jimmy Medranda, Lawrence Olum, and Seth Sinovic.
    11/23: Options declined on Ever Alvarado, Emmanuel Appiah, Nuno Andre Coelho, Connor Hallisey, Jon Kempin, and Justin Mapp
    12/02: Tyler Pasher signed from Swope Park Rangers
    12/02: Adrian Zendejas signed from Swope Park Rangers
    12/12: Paulo Nagamura retires
    12/13: Kevin Ellis re-signs
    12/13: Alec Kann re-signs
    12/13: Alec Kann selected by Atlanta United FC in the Expansion Draft
    12/21: Jacob Peterson signs with Atlanta United FC as a Free Agent
    12/22: Andrew Dykstra selected from Stage 2 of the Re-Entry Draft
    12/23: Igor Juliao acquired on one year loan from Fluminense FC (Brazil)
    12/26: Latif Blessing acquired from Liberty Professional (Ghana)
    12/26: Gerso Fernandes acquired from Belenenses (Portugal)
    01/09: Christian Volesky acquired from Portland Timbers FC
    01/10: Cameron Iwasa acquired from Sacramento Republic FC
    01/14: Elche CF acquired from Elche CF (Spain)
    01/14: Colton Storm picked at #14 in the First Round of the MLS SuperDraft
    01/17: David Greczek picked at #14 in the Third Round (#58 overall) of the MLS SuperDraft
    01/21: Chance Myers signs with Portland Timbers FC as a Free Agent
    01/30: Soony Saad acquired from BEC Tero Sasana (Thailand)
    02/03: Lawrence Olum traded to Portland Timbers FC for GAM and 2018 First Round Pick
    02/08: David Greczek signs with Swope Park Rangers
    02/24: Colton Storm signs with Sporting Kansas City
    02/27: Benji Joya and Christian Volesky waived
     
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  2. vividox

    vividox Moderator
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    Aug 10, 2005
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    At the very least, Olum, Nagamura, Mapp, and Hallisey need to move on. We really need a true attacking threat as well as some reliable back-up, and we need to find some way to keep Feilhaber. Lots of questions this offseason.

    @Buzz Killington , help me out with the International and Out of Contract players.
     
  3. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Feilhaber is the only 1 I'm for sure on.

    Internationals: Coelho, Medranda, Alvarado, Mustivar, Rubio, Salloi.

    I'd add Anor to my list of players that need to move on. Also don't be surprised if neither EPB or Salloi are back.
     
  4. Sachsen

    Sachsen Member+

    Aug 8, 2003
    Broken Arrow, Okla.
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Expansion draft coming up, we don't have many I would consider protecting.
     
  5. ZooCougar

    ZooCougar Member

    Jul 31, 2014
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Thematically, Sporting needs to accomplish several things in order to get out of this mediocre rut and make the team a legitimate cup contender again.

    The roster needs such an overhaul that I think it might be too ambitious to expect it to all get done this winter. I think it may require a gradual phasing out of some veterans.

    At the same time the core identity of high pressure, possession and width needs to be maintained which is why I think it might be prudent to keep a few guys around a little longer than some would expect.

    -We need to have less injuries. So in order to do that we have to part ways with as many of these injury prone bubbas as possible and replace them with younger players with low mileage.

    -We need to be able to threaten teams from all three positions on the front three. We need two true attackers up top in addition to Dwyer.

    -We need a reliable, non-injury prone RCB to line up next to Besler. And those two need to be welded on to the starting 11. I don't care if Besler has a few bad games, let him play it out of his system.

    -Our midfield is 2/3rds of the way complete. Mustivar had a decent two year run, but he is the weak link at the moment and he needs to be replaced.

    I need to think on this a bit longer, but we need a Blue Wedding in a big way.

    However I think we need to stick with the core:

    Melia
    SAS, Besler, Medranda
    Benny, Espinoza
    Dwyer


    My list will be much bigger. I would start with the injury prone guys and look for ways to offload them and get something for them. That would include guys like Myers, Opara, Coelho even Zusi. We'll probably take a bath on Zusi but he's not worth it anymore.
     
  6. Luke Campbell

    Luke Campbell Member

    May 16, 2013
    Liberty
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Holy hell, Anor is still here? That speaks volumes.
     
  7. vividox

    vividox Moderator
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    Aug 10, 2005
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    Sporting Kansas City
    He's been on loan all season.
     
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  8. hartley

    hartley Member

    I have to say it. Maybe it is time to move PV to just GM.

    His coaching the past two seasons has been the definition of insanity -- keep doing the same things and expect different results. Until PV learns he must at times change his strategy and/or formation [along with personnel] to win particular games, he will not ascend again to truly fight for any cup in this league.
     
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  9. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Gonna go ahead and disagree with that, if he can get players to play similarly to last night, and add a couple impact pieces in key spots (wing, RCB) this team can compete.
     
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  10. ZooCougar

    ZooCougar Member

    Jul 31, 2014
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    I'm sympathetic to this opinion. But I think we need to flush out the players that are always getting hurt and sign some talented young players. Stick with that core of Besler, Espinoza, Feilhaber and Dwyer and fill in some new blood around that.

    If Vermes can't get it together after a rebuilding period then I might change my opinion.
     
  11. Formulaic

    Formulaic Member

    Jul 6, 2011
    Kansas City
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm totally up for dropping every single winger on the roster other than maybe Porter and Saloi just because I don't really know what they can offer and they are young (Hallisey is young, but we have seen his "skills"). Zusi is the best we have and he is nowhere near worth his salary. He looked lively until he hit the post last night in like the 15th minute, and was pretty much done at that point.

    I know Besler has been dumped on this year some, but I just cant see it all being his fault, particularly since he has looked good for the Nats. I would like to keep him. 3 clean sheets in a row is a nice end to the season (last night ended 0-0 in my eyes and we "lost" because reasons). Really, I'm mostly happy with the backline if we can keep some consistency in who plays. Would I like upgrades? Sure...but I don't think it should be the focus. The focus should just be avoiding the half dozen or so ridiculously stupid goals they gave up through the season.

    Benny, Roger, Dom...pretty much must keeps. The chances of replacing any of them effectively over an off season are about nil.

    I would like an upgrade to Soni, but I don't necessarily want to get rid of him.
     
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  12. lukeD

    lukeD Member+

    Jul 7, 2011
    Olathe
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They played great, but it was a performance based on character, effort and grit. That's not sustainable over a season. They need better players.

    I'm not in favor of moving him out of the coaching role but I think he needs some help with the TD role. His player acquisitions and roster management decisions have been below par for a few seasons now. Too much money tied up in players that don't impact the game.
     
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  13. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's what I assumed they were doing when they brought Bliss in in January, give them a full offseason to work together.

    http://www.sportingkc.com/post/2016/01/05/sporting-kc-names-brian-bliss-director-player-personnel
     
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  14. ZooCougar

    ZooCougar Member

    Jul 31, 2014
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Some news, any news would be great although I realize it's early.
     
  15. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Anything now would be rumors since the season is still going on. Don't believe they can even make any waiving announcements yet.
     
  16. ZooCougar

    ZooCougar Member

    Jul 31, 2014
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Whatever happened with Fausto Rossi?
     
  17. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Still a free agent, a few articles I've seen have linked him with the likes of Empoli, Pisa, and other teams in Serie B, along with KC still.
     
  18. BenDover

    BenDover BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 4, 2010
    Rio Verde, AZ
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You might as well sit back and relax because nothing substantive is going to happen until the MLS cup is settled. Or, you can drive by Benny's house every day and see if there is a "for sale" sign in the yard.
     
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  19. vividox

    vividox Moderator
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    Aug 10, 2005
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    I kind of thought some teams did make waivers before the playoffs were finished, but maybe I'm just remembering incorrectly. Or maybe it's something like an intent of waiver and the moves aren't official until the offseason proper.

    Things move fast once the final is played, though. This seems relevant to the discussion:

    http://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2016/...-draft-calendar-combine-superdraft-heading-la

    2016-17 Offseason Calendar
    Sun., Dec. 11 Half-Day Trade Window (9 am - 12 pm ET)
    *No trades involving players will be permitted after 12 pm ET up until the conclusion of the Expansion Draft
    Mon., Dec. 12 Expansion Draft Protected Player list and eligible Free Agents list released
    Tue., Dec. 13 Expansion Draft (2 pm ET)
    *Beginning at 5 pm ET, Free Agents may engage in negotiations with all MLS clubs
    Wed., Dec. 14 List of players eligible for selection in the Waiver Draft released
    Thu., Dec. 15 Waiver Draft (2 pm ET)
    *Beginning at 5 pm ET, clubs may no longer sign or trade their own Re-Entry Draft eligible players (player-trade blackout window)
    *List of players available in Stage 1 of the Re-Entry Draft released
    Fri., Dec. 16 Re-Entry Draft - Stage 1 (3 pm ET)
    Wed., Dec. 21 Starting at 11 am ET, clubs may no longer sign or trade their own Re-Entry Draft eligible players (player-trade blackout window)
    *List of available players in Stage 2 of the Re-Entry Draft released
    Thu., Dec. 22 Re-Entry Draft - Stage 2 (3 pm ET)
    Jan. 7-12, 2017 2017 adidas MLS Player Combine
    Fri., Jan. 13, 2017 2017 MLS SuperDraft presented by adidas
    Mon., Jan. 23, 2017 2017 MLS preseason begins
     
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  20. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  21. Inca Roads

    Inca Roads Member+

    Nov 22, 2012
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    And with dos Santos gone too.
     
  22. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  23. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  24. BenDover

    BenDover BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 4, 2010
    Rio Verde, AZ
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    SKC has a LOT of work to do if they are to build a competitive team next season. There are so many holes in this roster that I don't see it getting much better without spending a lot of money. But, maybe its time that they did.
     
  25. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Spending a lot of money where? They can technically only spend "their" money on the three DP slots, and all three of those are filled at the moment. The salary cap is in place and they only have so much TAM/GAM available to them. It's not like they can throw money at four different positions.
     

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