2016-17 CCL Qualifiers [R]

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  1. dinamo_zagreb

    dinamo_zagreb Member+

    Jun 27, 2010
    San Jose, CA / Zagreb, Croatia
    Club:
    --other--
    Country:
    Croatia
    The best thing they could do now would be to draw 12 ties (with country and league protection rule), winners progress to group stage, group winners+best runner-up qualify to semis.
     
  2. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    So you have three groups and almost certainly 4 Mexican teams getting through, so one group has two Mexican teams? Also a pretty high chance of four American teams going through in that situation.
     
  3. Cirris

    Cirris Member+

    Feb 25, 2014
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
  4. dinamo_zagreb

    dinamo_zagreb Member+

    Jun 27, 2010
    San Jose, CA / Zagreb, Croatia
    Club:
    --other--
    Country:
    Croatia
    Don't know how really, but I forgot about that. So, out of four teams from same country, two would be paired in one tie in that preliminary round, remaining would be drawn with teams from other countries. :D

    That would only be used for this season - abolish that ridiculous 8x3 format, give all the teams same treatment. :thumbsup: :D
     
  5. Cirris

    Cirris Member+

    Feb 25, 2014
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Ouch, Whitecaps have to travel to Trinidad & Tobago talk about a long flight.
     
  6. Cirris

    Cirris Member+

    Feb 25, 2014
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    They made a rule that no two clubs from the same country can play each other in the Group stage. So they put all the US and Mexican clubs in one pot to avoid this. Whitecaps are in MLS and can draw another MLS club. But they are from separate countries. MLS being the one CONCACAF league that's international.

    During the draw they made note of this rule because the two Panamanian clubs were in separate pots. IF they draw the same group. They have to redraw another "group" pot to separate the clubs.
     
  7. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    We're talking about a hypothetical format, not this draw.
     
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  8. dinamo_zagreb

    dinamo_zagreb Member+

    Jun 27, 2010
    San Jose, CA / Zagreb, Croatia
    Club:
    --other--
    Country:
    Croatia
    Red Bulls have to progress now, they couldn't get better draw.


    Who was the hermosa :inlove: at the draw, btw?
     
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  9. TavoElTico

    TavoElTico Member

    Aug 27, 2010
    Costa Rica
    Club:
    Deportivo Saprissa
    Country:
    Costa Rica
    Feeling positive about Saprissa's chances. Not really sure what to expect from Dragon, but Salvadorean teams tend to be kind of crappy.

    I'm I right in thinking that Timbers is currently the weakest side from the last pot?
     
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  10. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I am psyched about the New York draw. Hoping for 12 points and a good seed. Would be satisfied with 10.

    Dallas needs to be gunning for 12 points, because that draw is a gift straight from the heavens.
     
  11. Chul0

    Chul0 Member

    Jul 3, 2015
    Club:
    CSD Comunicaciones
    Here the full CCL groups:
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  12. mczh

    mczh Member

    Jul 30, 2015
    Dallas, TX
    Country:
    El Salvador
    Dragon is an extremely gritty, defensive team. If you remember that match Saprissa had vs Limon right before the semis started just think of that, but less offensive capability and more hard fouls. They're pretty much the embodiment of everything americans hate about Central American clubs lol
     
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  13. TavoElTico

    TavoElTico Member

    Aug 27, 2010
    Costa Rica
    Club:
    Deportivo Saprissa
    Country:
    Costa Rica
    Looking forward to the injury list, then :(
     
  14. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
    Independent Republic of the Bronx, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Country:
    Ghana
    2016-17 Scotiabank Concacaf Champions League draw:
    Group A:W Connection (TRI), Honduras Progreso (HON), UNAM (MEX)
    Group B: Dragon (SLV), Saprissa (CRC),Portland Timbers
    Group C:Central FC (TRI), Vancouver Whitecaps, Sporting KC
    Group D: Don Bosco FC (HAI), Arabe Unido (PAN), Monterrey (MEX)
    Group E:Police United (BLZ), Olimpia (HON), Pachuca (MEX)
    Group F:Alianza (SLV), Antigua (GUA), NY Red Bulls
    Group G:Plaza Amador (PAN), Herediano (CRC), Tigres (MEX)
    Group H:Real Esteli (NIC), Suchitepequez (GUA), FC Dallas

    MLS teams in bold since I got it from an US site. The group winners pick themselves except for B and C. B will be Saprissa or Timbers and C will be KC or Van City. The rest should go to the US and Mexican clubs.
     
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  15. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Country:
    United States
    Don't know about that...Pachuca and Tigres both have to overcome tough Central American opposition. Even if both survive, I'd be surprised if either did so with 12 points. Right now, NY and Dallas have an inside track on the #1 ranking for the knockout round if they want it.
     
  16. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Country:
    United States
    Lots of new teams, nice.

    It would be nice if the defending champ could defend their title.
     
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  17. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Nassau County, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Country:
    United States
    Without commenting on which Pot 2 club deserved to be demoted, I agree that the Canadian club shouldn't be in the worst pot. The fair thing to do would be that the worst of the five CCL clubs in MLS regular season points goes into Pot 2 and the other four go into Pot 1, but MLS wouldn't want that. If the MLS club in Pot 2 wasn't Canadian, it would be placed in one of five groups with a Pot 1 club from Mexico or Canada. The CCL club with the fewest regular season points in MLS in 2015 was Sporting Kansas City. Since Sporting Kansas City got grouped with Vancouver, the draw turned out in a way that could have happened if my idea was used, albeit with Sporting Kansas City and Vancouver switching pots.
     
  18. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Pachuca, Hidalgo
    Club:
    Club América
    Country:
    Mexico
    I´ll be going to the Pachuca vs Olimpia match now that the Rey de Copas is only Copa MX:cry:
     
  19. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Country:
    United States
    Since there isn't a more recent thread on this tournament, I'll share here: CONCACAF and Scotiabank have announced that from this tournament forward, the winner will get $500,000 (USD), the runner-up $300k, and the semifinalists $200k, along with increased travel stipends for everyone.
     
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  20. SJJ

    SJJ Member

    Sep 20, 1999
    Royal Oak, MI, USA
    Club:
    Michigan Bucks
    Country:
    United States
    so..... $1.2M to Mexican teams every year?

    And, by the way, have the weeks of the matchdays been announced? I'm not even asking about the complete sched; just the days (group and knockout).
     
  21. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Pachuca, Hidalgo
    Club:
    Club América
    Country:
    Mexico
    No sure thing that it will be an all mexican final 4. Especially now that the Ferrari aint there
     
  22. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Nassau County, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Country:
    United States
  23. SJJ

    SJJ Member

    Sep 20, 1999
    Royal Oak, MI, USA
    Club:
    Michigan Bucks
    Country:
    United States
    I know what the presser said, Evan, I just wanted to know what weeks the games would be played on.
     
  24. dinamo_zagreb

    dinamo_zagreb Member+

    Jun 27, 2010
    San Jose, CA / Zagreb, Croatia
    Club:
    --other--
    Country:
    Croatia
    Schedule is out. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016–17_CONCACAF_Champions_League#Schedule

    So, again, some teams - mostly from Caribbean - will play their first two games at home followed by two away games. Disgraceful. Those clubs are: W Connection (matchdays 1 and 3, they have bye on matchday 2), Central United (1 and 2), Don Bosco (1 and 3), Alianza (2 and 3) and Pachuca (1 and 3). Police United, on the other hand, plays first two games away and will close out their campaing in two home games.
     
  25. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I don't get how they still get this wrong.
     

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