2015 US Open Cup qualifying thread (yes, 2015)

Discussion in 'US Open Cup' started by olujosh, Nov 27, 2013.

  1. SJJ

    SJJ Member

    Sep 20, 1999
    Royal Oak, MI, USA
    Club:
    Michigan Bucks
    Country:
    United States
    So the NPSL is having their playoff finalists enter the tournament? Not based on the regular season?
     
  2. Owen Thornhill

    Dec 22, 2012
    Club:
    Cork City
    Last year in the west it was through a playoff's prior to the season starting. I'm not sure about other regions.
     
  3. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Hmmm. That sentence from the GBFC site looks a little misleading. Looks like for the regions other than the West where they had a tournament in March they used the 2013 regular season last year.

    In the Northeast and South all four of the 2013 regular season division winners made the Open Cup.
    In the Midwest, Detroit City won their division and got in but the Quad City Eagles who won the other division didn't appear. Maybe they declined.
     
  4. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Country:
    United States
    Didn't think about this.

     
  5. fridge46

    fridge46 Member

    Oct 23, 2011
    #55 fridge46, Jan 2, 2015
    Last edited: Jan 2, 2015
    If I understand the query correct, I think it will be zero problems. Last year, there were the following match ups in Round 4 involving affiliated teams:

    San Jose v Sacramento
    Harrisburg v Philadelphia
    Columbus v Dayton (Had Dayton not lost to Indy)

    There was also one in Round 5:

    New England v Rochester

    So USSF have zero concerns over MLS/USLPro affiliations being "drawn" together.

    If the issue is MLS v MLS reserves, then that shouldnt be too much of problem either. According to my math, there could be 5 MLS reserves from USLPro (NYRB, RSL, LAG, POR, SEA). 4 U23/reserve sides made the competition last year. One addition potential clash shouldnt create that many difficulties

    Worse case scenario: there might be quite a few MLS first teams facing other teams' reserve squads, particularly in the West. But I guess they would take that over playing a team on the opposite coast.

    It is also advantageous that USSF dont set the entire bracket at the start. If they keep to the same format as last year, the draw for Round 4 (MLS enter) is done after Round 2 (USLPro enter), so there could very well be some teams knocked out then. That should help keep the Cup as regionalized as possible until the latter stages.
     
  6. SJJ

    SJJ Member

    Sep 20, 1999
    Royal Oak, MI, USA
    Club:
    Michigan Bucks
    Country:
    United States
    With the MLS schedule out, time to guess the schedule dates for the LHUSOC? Here are the dates where no USA-based team plays in the midweek, starting June:

    June 9-11 [fifa international dates]

    June 16-18

    June 30-July 2

    July 7-9 [concacaf gold cup; they COULD play the LHUSOC during the Gold Cup or international dates; just pointing these out]

    July 21-23 [concacaf gold cup]

    July 28-30 [expect the All-Star game in this slot?]

    September 1-3 [fifa international dates]

    September 29-October 1

    October 20-22
     
  7. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Country:
    United States
  8. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Country:
    United States
  9. SJJ

    SJJ Member

    Sep 20, 1999
    Royal Oak, MI, USA
    Club:
    Michigan Bucks
    Country:
    United States
    With the NASL Fall schedule out, it looks like they scheduled at least one midweek game on most weeks, so the "no midweek games scheduled" theory is out the window: http://www.fifa.com/u20worldcup/teams/index.html

    P.S.... and MLS did schedule the All-Star game for July 29.
     
  10. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Those mid-week NASL games don't start until July 8. There were only 2 NASL teams left by that date last year.

    The NASL/MLS mid-week games in June, July, and August:

    June 2-4: 0 games/3 games (2 CAN teams)
    June 9-11: 0 games/0 games
    June 16-18: 0 games/0 games
    June 23-25: 0 games/7 games (2 CAN)
    July 1-2: 0 games/0 games
    July 7-9: 1 game/0 games
    July 14-16: 2 games (1 CAN)/1 game
    July 21-23: 1 game (1 CAN)/0 games
    July 28-30: 0 games/MLS All-Star game
    Aug 4-6: 3 games (1 CAN)/2 games (2 CAN)
    Aug 11-13: 1 game/1 game
    Aug 18-20: 1 game/2 games
    Aug 25-27: 1 game (1 CAN)/2 games

    Dates with no games: June 9-11, June 16-18, July 1-2

    Those are your mostly likely 4th-Quarterfinal rounds.

    Dates with 1 game: July 7-9, July 21-23
    And both of those are NASL games. The game on July 22 involves one Canadian team which reduces the chances of a conflict.
     
  11. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Country:
    United States
    http://thecup.us/2015-us-open-cup-q...ttle-for-us-club-soccers-lone-entry-saturday/

    San Francisco City FC will host Stanislaus United Academica, looking to become the first team from San Francisco to qualify for the Open Cup in nearly 20 years. According to SFCFC, the winner will qualify for the 102nd edition of the Open Cup, but it is unclear if the US Club Soccer champion will begin play in a preliminary round or the first round.
     
  12. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Country:
    United States
  13. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    The 2015 USL Pro schedule is out.

    They don't have any mid-week games May 19-21 or May 26-28. That might be the 2nd and 3rd round dates.

    If I had to guess, I'd say most USL Pro teams enter the tournament May 19-20, all or most NASL May 26-27, and most MLS June 9-11.
     
  14. olujosh

    olujosh Member

    Aug 23, 1999
    Ann Arbor, MI
    Country:
    United States
  15. TheFalseNine

    TheFalseNine Member+

    Jul 15, 2014
    Norman, Okla.
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Country:
    United States
  16. fridge46

    fridge46 Member

    Oct 23, 2011
    Play-In Round (April 22nd & 26th)
    - 2 amateur sides (1 USCS club + USSSA club nearest to USCS representative)
    - 2 Legs

    First Round
    (May 13th)
    - 42 amateur sides
    - 21 Matches

    Second Round (May 20th)
    - 21 First Round Winners
    - 21 USL PRO clubs
    - 21 Matches

    Third Round (May 27th)
    - 21 Second Round Winners
    - 9 NASL Clubs
    - 15 Matches

    Fourth Round (June 16th-17th)
    - 15 Third Round Winners
    - 17 MSL Clubs
    - 16 Matches

    Fifth Round (June 30th - July 1st)

    Quarter Finals (July 21st-22nd)

    Semi Finals (August 11th-12th)

    Final (September 29th or 30th)
    Called it :D
     
  17. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Country:
    United States
    Has the prize always been 250K?

     
  18. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Good call. I got some of the dates right.
     
  19. fridge46

    fridge46 Member

    Oct 23, 2011
    Indeed you did.

    Also, just noticed I have made an error in reporting the Play-In round participants.

    USCS and USSSA representatives will be paired with the nearest USASA club located nearest to it (Damn USSSA and USASA being too similar *waves fist in anger*). These matches are single legged.

    USCS is represented by San Francisco City FC. I believe the nearest USASA club is Cal FC (located in Thousand Oaks).

    USSSA representative will be decided on March 15. Potential winners include:

    Colorado Rovers/FC Denver/Harpos (All Colorado). Nearest USASA club I think will be KC Athletics (Kansas)
    KC Kaiser Internationale/Mellow Mushroom (Both Florida). Nearest USASA club I think is Triangle Brigade (N Carolina)
    Austin Thunder/Wickham FC (both Texas). Nearest USASA club I think is NTX Rayados (Texas)

    Personally, I'm hoping Mellow Mushroom will win, solely because its an awesome name!

    Finally, some potential scheduling clashes:

    Last 16 (30/Jun-1/Jul): 4 USL PRO matches (RM/Sacramento, Wilmington/St Louis, Portland II/Arizona, OC/OKC)
    QF (21-22/Jul): 1 NASL (Ottawa v Atlanta)
    SF (11-12/Aug): 1 MLS (NYCFC v DC United) + 3 USL PRO (Harrisburg/Louisville, NYRBII/Charlotte, Tulsa/RM)
     
  20. dinamo_zagreb

    dinamo_zagreb Member+

    Jun 27, 2010
    San Jose, CA / Zagreb, Croatia
    Club:
    --other--
    Country:
    Croatia
    I still wonder why B-sides play in same competition as their first teams. Ridiculous.


    Mellow Mushroom [​IMG]
     
  21. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Country:
    United States
  22. USRufnex

    USRufnex Member+

    Tulsa Athletic
    United States
    Jul 15, 2000
    Tulsa, OK
    Club:
    --other--
    #72 USRufnex, Feb 4, 2015
    Last edited: Feb 4, 2015
    In the south, all four won their regular season conferences, can't tell if Upward Stars had a championship game or not, but the other three (Miami, Tulsa, Chattanooga) also won their conference playoffs.

    Last year, Tulsa got to host OKC Energy FC (lost 2-0), but this year will play another amateur team in the first round.
    Come April 9th, I'd be surprised if the winner of NPSL Tulsa's first round game wouldn't be matched up against the expansion Tulsa Roughnecks.

    The only newspaper coverage the Athletics are likely to get this year:

     
  23. mikehurst21

    mikehurst21 Member

    Oklahoma City Energy FC
    United States
    Nov 6, 2013
    Moore Oklahoma
    Club:
    --other--
    Country:
    United States
    You do relive that Ottawa can't enter this tournament right ? They are a Canadian side not an US side thus they are ineligible to participate in the usoc sorry.
     
  24. fridge46

    fridge46 Member

    Oct 23, 2011
    #74 fridge46, Feb 4, 2015
    Last edited: Feb 4, 2015
    Yes, I am aware, and somewhat offended that you think I think they are!

    For completeness, I listed all matches that involved US teams that could potentially clash with cup dates. I was going to put Ottawa in italics or a smaller font, but thought it was pretty obvious what I was doing...

    In future, I will make sure to be explicitly clear what I am trying to achieve in my posts for your benifit. :D
     
  25. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Country:
    United States
    #75 msilverstein47, Feb 6, 2015
    Last edited: Feb 9, 2015

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