2015 Rugby World Cup

Discussion in 'Rugby & Aussie Rules' started by Nerroth, Sep 20, 2015.

  1. Nerroth

    Nerroth Member

    Feb 9, 2008
    Ontario, Canada
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic


    The 2015 Rugby World Cup is underway, with 20 teams competing for the William Webb Ellis Cup - a trophy named after the (alleged) inventor of rugby football.

    To clarify, this tournament is for Rugby Union, as opposed to Rugby League (which has its own World Cup).

    Japan will host the next edition of the tournament in 2019, though the current crop of the "Brave Blossoms" have already secured their place in Rugby World Cup history, courtesy of this outstanding performance against the Springboks:

     
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  2. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Brooklyn, NY
    Watched 3 matches so far. Great contest between New Zealand and Argentina, although there were clearly some nerves. Tough to beat Rugby Union at the top-level. After watching the All Blacks and Pumas, switching to a soccer match made that sport look quite lame, I must admit.
     
  3. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    then again watching the dribble that was Fiji vs England made soccer watching quite entertaining

    when Rugby matches go bad...they are dire to watch (especially live)

    and I love Rugby;)

    hoping Japan beats Scotland
     
  4. Colm

    Colm Member

    Aug 17, 2004
    UK
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Great world cup so far. The Japan South Africa match was the biggest upset in world cup history by far amazing stuff.

    Enjoyed the France Romania game last night too. Plus had the record attendance for a Rugby world cup game between New Zealand Argentina :)
     
  5. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    I do not like the short turn around tier 2 countries are expected to have between games

    I know Samoa raised this issue in the previous tournament
     
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  6. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Oh well.

    Pretty much any sport will have it's dire games. About all you can do is hope it doesn't happen when you've shelled out for a ticket or for PPV.
     
  7. Master O

    Master O Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So the US will all but go home with 3 losses, then?
     
  8. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
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    If it's any consolation, the Welshman is on his way to the bar as we speak. :D
     
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  9. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    France just got the biggest walloping by any team in a knock out game of a WC

    That was the best I have seen NZ play since the 2005 Lions series

    which probably means we will lose to SA next week:oops:

     
  10. glennaldo_sf

    glennaldo_sf Member+

    Deportivo Wanka, Semen Padang, Dinamo Bender, Fotballaget Fart
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It was an (all) black day in French rugby yesterday....
     
  11. babaorum

    babaorum Member+

    Aug 20, 2005
    Marseille
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    French rugby is dead. Sad.
     
  12. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
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    How sweet it is!
     
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  13. glennaldo_sf

    glennaldo_sf Member+

    Deportivo Wanka, Semen Padang, Dinamo Bender, Fotballaget Fart
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not a good day for the Northern Hemisphere!
     
  14. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I thought Scotland, Wales and Ireland gave it a good fight. England and France were the biggest failure this WC, they'll have to regroup.

    Los Pumas are looking great. Getting our asses kicked since 2012 by the former Tri Nations at the RC is now starting to pay off. I think NZ vs Australia is the logical final, but I'd say we have a fighting chance.
     
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  15. glennaldo_sf

    glennaldo_sf Member+

    Deportivo Wanka, Semen Padang, Dinamo Bender, Fotballaget Fart
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Personally I would love to see a new team win it - so I'm rooting for Argentina at this point!
     
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  16. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Brooklyn, NY
    Not a good weekend. I mean, sure France could be excused for losing to the All Blacks but not by a 1000 points! Namibia lost by less.

    Everyone said the All Blacks had come off of their peak form after struggling to beat Argentina, but in hindsight we can probably say the reason for that struggle was the Pumas are just a lot better than people thought. Once you accept that France were probably overrated before the WC and the Pumas were underrated, then all the results up to now may perfect sense.

    Anyway, great weekend of rugby! This is where the rugby world cup differs greatly from the football one - the knockout stage never disappoints in rugby, whereas the group stage is usually the highlight of the football WC.
     
  17. Sandinista

    Sandinista Member+

    Apr 11, 2010
    Buenos Aires
    Club:
    Racing Club de Avellaneda
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
  18. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    we could have just skipped the world cup and carried on with the Rugby Championship;)
     
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  19. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    is the Top 14 influx of foreigners to blame for the decline?
     
  20. babaorum

    babaorum Member+

    Aug 20, 2005
    Marseille
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Certainly. We have some excellent 19-20 years old players but they hardly play at club level because they have to compete with the likes of Giteau, Nonu etc. When they start to play on a regular basis at the age of 24 or 25 it's already too late. Our pool of player is quite simply not as large at what it used to be. Plus our players play too many games per year. They're roasted, quite simply.

    Another reason is Philippe Saint-Andre's incompetence : in four years he never succeeded to build a coherent game-plan. The only hope is that former Toulouse's coach Guy Novès will now be in charge, but he can't change everything by himself.

    Lastly, the players are also to blame : they showed no leadership, no fighting-spirit, nothing at all. That is certainly the least talented French side since decades but that can't be an excuse for not even trying to fight...
     
  21. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    there was a hint of a resurgence before Picamoles scored but I think the devastating way Savea scored his try just before half time dented any chance

    Picamoles getting sin binned did not help matters

    the lack of flair in the french backs is alarming...take away Fofana and the rest are very meh...I remember the awesome french backs from the 90's and early 00s

     
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  22. babaorum

    babaorum Member+

    Aug 20, 2005
    Marseille
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Savea's try reminded me Lomu's one vs us in 1999, when he put Benazzi, N'Tamack and a couple of other players on their asses.

    Remember who started the action that led to the try from the end of the world ? Saint-Andre himself ! He didn't lack flair as a player, but as coach, he killed it :(. Top 14 is also guilty : the game is usually restricted, relying mostly on physical power. The result of it is that we have backs who can't pass the ball anymore. I'm very pessimistic for the future honestly. Guy Novès may be one of the best coach on earth but he won't be able to fix all the issues.

    Anyway, good luck to you guys. I usually support the All-Blacks when we don't face them of when we're out. I must admit I would happy to see Argentina going far though.
     
  23. the shelts

    the shelts Member+

    Jun 30, 2005
    Providence RI
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    I honestly think that French flair has been killed by coaching. Coaching on the French side worrying about systems and set pieces and coaching on the other side of the ball worried about defense, defense, defense.

    .....................and as for referee Craig Joubert. Frankly he botched the 2011 final and he botched the quarterfinal between Scotland and Australia. To be fair to him, the play was a split second decision, but go to the TMO. Anyone who says they cannot is fooling themselves. They went to a TMO on the same play in round robin and its 1 minutes from time in a penalty kick vs scrum situation. and to dash off of the pitch...............frankly its just not good enough. South African rugby doesn't deserve his name being attached to it and the quicker we are rid of him the better.
     
  24. Sandinista

    Sandinista Member+

    Apr 11, 2010
    Buenos Aires
    Club:
    Racing Club de Avellaneda
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Are there rules or limitations on the usage of TMO? Or it's just ref decision to use it or not?
     
  25. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    so the final is finally the All Blacks vs Wallabies

    first time they meet in a final

    each team will play their 4th final

    NZ won in 87 and 11 but lost in 95
    Aus won in 91 and 99 but lost in 03

    Richie McCaw, Dan Carter, Keven Meleamu, Conrad Smith and Ma'a Nonu will play their last match for NZ
     

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