2015 FALL ATTENDANCE THREAD

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  1. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fall season starts Saturday, so you what that means. TIME FOR A NEW THREAD!
     
  2. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    With all the heavy hitters playing away this week and the holiday weekend I'm expecting a low average. Plus the Cosmos get the lucky added bonus at starting when Women's World Cup final kicks off.
     
  3. AmeriSnob

    AmeriSnob Member+

    Jan 23, 2010
    Queens
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Another "Cosmos need a stadium" issue: we have such horrible dates for games this year. We played at 2PM on Mother's Day, another game on Memorial Day Weekend, and now this weekend. That's half the ********ing games so far at the worst dates you could pick.
     
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  4. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    7,002 in Tampa :thumbsup:
    3,075 in Carolina :thumbsdown:
     
  5. speedcake

    speedcake Member

    Dec 2, 1999
    Tampa
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So that is two 7k+ sellouts and one more JUST shy (6,851) for the Rowdies in six home games so far this year. Pretty big improvement over just a couple of seasons ago. The Fall season is a much longer slog, so it'll be interesting to see what the final numbers are and if they can pull off any more sellouts. Even just one or two more would be a big boost to average attendance overall.
     
  6. nanoGVSP

    nanoGVSP Member+

    Jan 31, 2012
    New york
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Agreed, looking at the schedule we have a bunch of weeknight games, that will no doubt hurt the numbers.
     
  7. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    6,150 in Ottawa :thumbsup:
    1,112 in Edmonton :cry:

    MOVE EDMONTON !!!
     
  8. Kolyn

    Kolyn Member

    May 15, 2012
    Waterford, Ireland
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    There's been rumours that the unpaid seats are paid for by the stadium in Fort McMurray so basically FC Edmonton would get the same for hosting the game there regardless of how many people showed up.
     
  9. brentgoulet

    brentgoulet Member+

    Oct 12, 2005
    PuertoPlata, DomRep
    • 3647 in Hempstead
     
  10. CANPRO

    CANPRO Member+

    Dec 23, 2002
    The oil companies paid them big money to play in Ft McMurray. They were never going to get many rig pigs to come watch soccer in that town of 100,000 mostly transient oil workers.
     
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  11. The One X

    The One X Member+

    Sep 9, 2014
    Indiana
    Club:
    Indy Eleven
    Code:
    Week 12            Season Average(2014)    Weekly Total
    Indianapolis           10,400(10,465)         N/A
    Jacksonville           9,757                  N/A
    Minnesota              9,192(5,577)           N/A
    San Antonio            6,477(6,476)           N/A
    Ft. Lauderdale         6,351(3,679)           N/A
    New York               6,207(4,834)           3,647
    Tampa Bay              5,917(4,815)           7,002
    Carolina               4,813(4,907)           3,075
    Atlanta                4,770(4,730)           N/A
    Ottawa                 4,673(2,683)           6,150
    Edmonton               2,489(3,577)           1,112
    
                       Season Average    Week Average
    NASL 2015              6,322
    NASL 2014              5,161
    Difference             1,161
    
    NASL 2015 Fall         4,197             4,197
    NASL 2014 Fall         3,497             3,497
    Difference              700
    
    Dismal week even by last year's standards, and more proof that the split season only hurts teams. Despite that, and despite Edmonton having the worst attended game since prior to last year, somehow still managed to have better attendance than the first game of the Fall Season last year.

    By the way last year the worst attended game was Ottawa at 2,158. The first game of the fall season last year Edmonton was able to draw 3,609. Their worst of the season was 2,849, which they have only topped 2 out of 6 games. Something is going wrong up north.
     
  12. Kolyn

    Kolyn Member

    May 15, 2012
    Waterford, Ireland
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    To be fair, they didn't have a game in Fort McMurray last year and as stated, if the oil companies paid to bring the game there, they didn't lose any money on it. There was also the World Cup final yesterday which surely hit attendance, especially in New York.
     
  13. Zoidberg

    Zoidberg Member+

    Jun 23, 2006
    The split season was one of those "gimmick" attempts to differentiate itself from MLS, and emgratiate itself with the "this is pure soccer" crowd.

    I agree it doesn't work, and basically hurts teams.

    Time to move on from this one IMO.
     
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  14. zensum

    zensum Member+

    Jan 22, 2008
    The Bronx, NYC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    There's a report out there that the Borough Boys (and I think both the Cross Island Crew and La Banda Del Cosmos too) boycotted the nasl cosmos game in protest of the club banning some of their members after altercations with the Third Rail at the NYCFC US Open Cup game...

    Could be an element in the low turnout...

    I'm posting this report around the internet to try to get confirmation...if true there's been quite a strange radio silence on the subject here in the metro area...
     
  15. shermanator

    shermanator New Member

    Jul 15, 2012
    Calgary, AB
    Club:
    FC Edmonton
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Is anyone really surprised that a city full of transient oil workers who are losing jobs at a pretty rapid rate are not showing up for a soccer game? If the Eddies can only draw ~2800 in Edmonton after 5 years of "marketing" then 1100 actually doesn't look too bad .

    Also, where are these rumours about oil companies financing the games in Edmonton coming from? Never heard of them until reading this thread. Genuinely curious here, it would be the only way this game made sense.
     
  16. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Plus teams seem to be prioritizing the end of the spring half over the Open Cup.
     
  17. The One X

    The One X Member+

    Sep 9, 2014
    Indiana
    Club:
    Indy Eleven
    Most people outside of Edmonton probably did not know they weren't playing in their normal stadium. I certainly did not until just 2 minutes ago.
     
  18. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    [​IMG]

    Correlation is not causation.

    Who is hurt by the split season, how, and how do low attendance numbers for the first weekend prove your hypothesis? (I think it's a gimmick, obviously, and the fact it's 10/20 is even worse, but how, exactly, would it/does it "hurt teams?" And what does that even mean?)
     
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  19. DanGerman

    DanGerman Member+

    Aug 28, 2014
    New York City
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Lets be honest if they did boycott the game that would be what 200 people max so that certainly isn't the reason. Just a poor stadium situation. In an article recently about the hofstra field it mentioned that the team doesn't get choice dates, they were told in advance that they could only have one game date in July and that was the 5th. Now they could have made it a 2pm game and that would have helped some, because scheduling it against the WWC final wasn't to bright.
     
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  20. AmeriSnob

    AmeriSnob Member+

    Jan 23, 2010
    Queens
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, about a dozen Five Points members are currently banned for life and both the supporters group and team are currently talking with Hofstra about lifting the bans.

    But yeah, I think the attendance has less to do with that and more to do with the horrible date.
     
  21. Smoke & Mirrors

    Jul 18, 2010
    Club:
    Ft Lauderdale Strikers
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    For me it's hard to correlate "hurts" the teams as much as it creates a number of potential problems for both the teams and the league. But if there is one thing that I can agree with that poster on in saying the break portion of the format hurts teams is in the fact that in essence the league is taking its product off the shelf for an entire month. A product that relies very heavily on grassroots and word of mouth advertising because most teams have little more than a shoe string budget for advertising and marketing. Granted we are seeing some improvement in that with some teams, but overall I think it can easily be argued that the break serves no legitimate purpose and might do some harm in the aspect of keeping your team's visibility up over the course of the entire season.
     
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  22. DanGerman

    DanGerman Member+

    Aug 28, 2014
    New York City
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Exactly, I think the Cosmos would have gotten a great regular season crowd after the NYCFC open cup win but that momentum was lost by the having no regular season games to follow that up with.
     
  23. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    3,055 in Carolina last night.
     
  24. USAsports6

    USAsports6 Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Oct 17, 2014
    Club:
    Indy Eleven
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    9,600 something in Indy, someone else may know the exact number.
     
  25. USAsports6

    USAsports6 Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Oct 17, 2014
    Club:
    Indy Eleven
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    9,629 is the exact number.
     

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