2015 CONCACAF U-20 Championship

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  1. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Qualifying is under way for this one, might as well start a thread.

    The tournament will run from January 9th-25th and be hosted by Jamaica. Top 4 will go to the 2015 World Cup in New Zealand which will played from May 30th - June 20th next summer.

    Qualified Teams:
    Jamaica (hosts)
    Canada
    Mexico
    USA

    They'll be joined by the top 4 teams from both the Caribbean and Central American qualifiers
     
  2. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Central American Qualifying (in El Salvador)

    Matchday 1: July 17th
    Guatemala 1 - 0 Costa Rica
    Honduras 3 - 4 Panama
    El Salvador 6 - 0 Belize

    Matchday 2: July 19th
    Panama 5 - 0 Nicaragua
    Honduras 1 - 1 Costa Rica
    El Salvador - Guatemala

    Matchday 3: July 21st
    Belize - Nicaragua
    Costa Rica - Panama
    El Salvador - Honduras

    Matchday 4: July 23rd
    Belize - Panama
    Nicaragua - Costa Rica
    Guatemala - Honduras

    Matchday 5: July 25th
    Honduras - Belize
    Panama - Guatemala
    El Salvador - Nicaragua

    Matchday 6: July 27th
    Costa Rica - Belize
    Nicaragua - Guatemala
    El Salvador - Panama

    Matchday 7: July 29th
    Guatemala - Belize
    Honduras - Nicaragua
    El Salvador - Costa Rica
     
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  3. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Caribbean Qualification

    1st Round

    Group winners and top 2 runner ups make the 2nd round

    Group 1 (Group is finished)
    Cuba 5 pts
    Martinique 4 pts
    Barbados 3 pts
    St. Vincent 2 pts

    Group 2 (Group is finished)
    Dominican Republic 6 pts
    Antigua & Barbuda 4 pts (+2 goal differential)
    Bermuda 4 pts (-1 goal differential)
    Guadeloupe 3 pts

    Group 3
    Suriname
    Haiti
    St. Lucia
    Turks & Caicos Islands

    Group 4
    Grenada
    Aruba
    Dominica

    Group 5
    Anguilla
    Cayman Islands
    Curacao
    St. Kitts and Nevis

    2nd Round (Played in Trinidad and Tobago from September 12th - 19th)
    Top 2 teams from each group make the U-20 Championship

    Group A

    Group 5 winner
    Group 4 winner
    Cuba
    2nd best runner up

    Group B
    Trinidad and Tobago
    Group 3 winner
    Dominican Republic
    Best runner up
     
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  4. soccersubjectively

    soccersubjectively BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 17, 2012
    Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Probably should be noted that Panama has already qualified with two games in hand. The rest of the field isn't as clear. Some games going on today, actually.

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  5. La Trucha

    La Trucha Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 16, 2009
    42 Wallaby Way, Sydney
    Club:
    Melbourne Victory
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    As it remains. It's still not clear on who else will qualify. ES, Honduras, CR and Guate all still have a chance to qualify. Nothing is set in concrete except for Panama who are in 1st place no matter what.
     
  6. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Panama hasn't clinched first. They have 2 games left. El Salvador and Guatemala have 3 games left and can each pass Panama. If El Salvador and Guatemala have already played each other, Panama can finish as low as third. If El Salvador and Guatemala still have to play each other, Panama will finish first or second.

    Costa Rica went to the World cup Quarterfinals, but their senior national team could get worse if their U-20 players don't even qualify for the CONCACAF U-20 Championship.
     
  7. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Guatemala wraps up this tourney with Belize and Nicaragua. Honduras ends it with Nicaragua. It's hard to imagine both teams not getting maximum points in those matches. That means Costa Rica is likely to be in a must win situation in the final game against El Salvador (the host team)
     
  8. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's worth noting that CONCACAF has changed the format this year. The teams will be put into 2 6 team groups with the group winners automatically qualifying for the World Cup, and advancing to the Championship game. The 4 2nd and 3rd place teams will play a one off game for a trip to the World Cup.
     
  9. Blue_nation724

    Blue_nation724 Member+

    Mar 16, 2013
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    El Salvador
    After yesterday's results, the table is:

    1st: Panama - 15. +12 (Champions)
    2nd: El Salvador- 8. +12
    3rd: Honduras- 8. +5
    4th: Costa Rica- 4. +0
    5th: Guatemala- 4. -2
    6th: Nicaragua- 3. -10
    7th: Belize- 0. -17


    CR's last two games are vs Belize and El Salvador respectively. Guatemala's are vs Nicaragua and Belize respectively. CR need 2 W's in those matches, as it's safe to say that Guatemala will get the 2 W's in their games.
    El Salvador need just one win and they qualify second place, 2 draws and they qualify, but can drop on the table possibly to 3rd the most.
     
  10. Blue_nation724

    Blue_nation724 Member+

    Mar 16, 2013
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    El Salvador
    FT scored from yesterday:
    Costa Rica vs Belize- 6-0
    Guatemala vs Nicaragua- 4-0
    El Salvador vs Panamá- 2-1.

    Table going into the last game day
    Team/pts/GD.

    Panamá**/15/+11
    El Salvador*/11/+13
    Honduras/8/+5
    Costa Rica/7/+6
    Guatemala/7/+1
    Nicaragua/3/-14
    Belize/0/-23

    * qualified to Jamaica 2015
    **champion of the tournament
     
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  11. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Guatemala's goal differential is +2, not +1.
     
  12. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well with Honduras playing Nicaragua you have to imagine they're safe. You also assume Guatemala will beat Belize. Must win for The Ticos tonight
     
  13. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This does make the assumption that goal difference is the tiebreaker. If it's head to head Guatemala just needs to beat Belize
     
  14. evangel

    evangel Member+

    Apr 12, 2007
    It's +1 by my count:

    Guatemala 1 - 0 Costa Rica
    Guatemala 2 - 2 El Salvador
    Guatemala 0 - 1 Honduras
    Guatemala 0 - 3 Panama
    Guatemala 4 - 0 Nicaragua

    This is a qualification for a FIFA competition, so I'm assuming it has to be goal difference. Which would mean Guatemala needs to score at least 6 goals to even things out, since they play first.

    Needless to say, this is going to be interesting. Someone has been streaming the matches on Justin.tv. It'll be worth watching today's final round.
     
  15. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm reading Guatemala has qualified. Which means head to head was the tiebreaker. Ticos are done unless Nicaragua snags a stunning point against Honduras
     
  16. evangel

    evangel Member+

    Apr 12, 2007
    That's weird. The CONCACAF site had listed Costa Rica above Guatemala on their tables before, meaning they were using goal difference.

    Though trying to find info on anything in that website is impossible. I couldn't find the actual listing of the rules anywhere.
     
  17. La Trucha

    La Trucha Moderator
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    Nov 16, 2009
    42 Wallaby Way, Sydney
    Club:
    Melbourne Victory
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    So far Panama, ES and Honduras have all qualified.

    If CR loses or draws to ES, then they're eliminated and Guatemala progresses.
     
  18. evangel

    evangel Member+

    Apr 12, 2007
    Costa Rica won against El Salvador. So who qualified?

    I see some media people saying that Guatemala qualified, but all official CONCACAF sources that I've seen seem to hint at the opposite. The official CONCACAF twitter feed said that Honduras had qualified after their final match, but it didn't say the same about Guatemala after their match.




    They still haven't put up anything after the ES - CR match.
     
  19. La Trucha

    La Trucha Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 16, 2009
    42 Wallaby Way, Sydney
    Club:
    Melbourne Victory
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Despite winning, Costa Rica didn't progress due to goal difference.

    Panama, ES, Honduras and Guatemala have progressed.
     
  20. evangel

    evangel Member+

    Apr 12, 2007
    Costa Rica has a better goal difference than Guatemala. If Guatemala progressed it's due to the head to head results (Guatemala won 1-0 against Costa Rica).
     
  21. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    According to Tweets, it's Guatemala
     
  22. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So with Central American qualifying wrapped up, your qualified teams are

    Host:
    Jamaica

    North America:
    Canada
    Mexico
    USA

    Central America:
    El Salvador
    Guatemala
    Honduras
    Panama
     
  23. La Trucha

    La Trucha Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 16, 2009
    42 Wallaby Way, Sydney
    Club:
    Melbourne Victory
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Yup.

    Good god the Carribbean qualifying is not going to finish for another 2 months. It's seriously a mess, and just 1 Carribbean country will progress (besides Jamaica) deadddddd.
     
  24. Blue_nation724

    Blue_nation724 Member+

    Mar 16, 2013
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    El Salvador
    Not true to that last part. Remember, they're gonna add more Caribbean teams this time around to make equal groups (I think they said 5?)
     
  25. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #25 EvanJ, Jul 30, 2014
    Last edited: Jul 30, 2014
    Well Blue_nation724 posted standings with goal differentials that added to -1 instead of 0, and looking at his standings before and after one of the matchdays it looked like Guatemala was the team he was wrong about. You could be right about Guatemala, but one team certainly had the wrong goal differential in Post 10 of this topic.

    Edit: Wikipedia says the CONCACAF U-20 Tournament will have 12 teams in 2 groups of 6 with 4 CFU teams other than Jamaica. CFU Group 5, the last CFU First Round group, starts today.
     

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