(2015.08.05) EAFF Asian Cup: Japan x Korea Republic [R]

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  1. Samurai Warrior

    Samurai Warrior Member+

    Dec 2, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Asano had to shoot the last attempt.
     
  2. Samurai Warrior

    Samurai Warrior Member+

    Dec 2, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    ... and Wataru Endo is the best player so far for Japan in this tournament.

    I may call him the discovery of this tournament.
     
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  3. nipponbasse83

    nipponbasse83 Member+

    Jun 17, 2007
    Ichikawa, Chiba, Japan
    Club:
    Consadole Sapporo
    Nat'l Team:
    Norway
    What´s the difference really between a "middle shot" and "long shot"? Where does the line between those 2 go? And why arent tap-ins and shots inside the 18 or 6-yard box called "short shot"?
     
  4. heyheyhe11

    heyheyhe11 Member+

    Oct 1, 2009
    Club:
    PSV Eindhoven
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    A short thought of the Japanese team from the other side.

    Even with the new players Japan field today, I expected Japan to control the ball, dictate pace. That wasn't the case today. Which was surprising. Japan's passing game, still be good enough even with bunch of nobodies(I never heard of other than shibasaki) to majority of the ball. But I felt few times when Japan did had the ball, I thought their passes were little bit more crisp, accurate than our team.

    Before the game, our media focused a lot shinwook. How shinwook this, shinwook that. But I was very surprised to see makino thwart his effort every time. I thought I played very well and smart against shinwook today. Makino fouled shinwook when he had to and his positioning in Japanese end were excellent today.(we'll gonna see a lot of makino in the future aren't we?)

    Our media also focused on usami as the Japanese' main threat against us. And I was surprised to see he was a late second half sub. I thought to believe that he was going to start against us. And Japan now has big final match against China who are beating the Norks as well speak. Good luck. I'm neutral.
     
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  5. Dax

    Dax Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    lol
    unfortunately these 'nobodies' are supposed to be the best of the JLeague
    but I'm not downplaying the local players, I just don't agree with a good part of the names chosen.
     
  6. Radu Razvan

    Radu Razvan Member+

    Mar 1, 2013
    Bucharest, Romania
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    what names?
     
  7. Dax

    Dax Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Niwa, Yonekura, Fujiharu, Kurata, Fujita, Makino, Yonemoto, Taniguchi all names that didn't excite me one single bit, and unfortunately still don't now.
    Endo and Asano were the only new players I cared about from this selection as I posted in the other thread.
    Then there are those like Kawamata or Muto or Koroki which probably 'deserved' a callup but I still can't seriously consider for the national team (and hopefully they won't have space anyway).
     
  8. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    disagree on Yonemoto, he brings energy. We desperately need guys who bring it at a higher level of intensity like Yonemoto, Minamino, Shibasaki etc.
    I wanted to butcher Asano when he didn't even attempt anything on that counter at the end of the game. Why are you fast for ? Too many cowards in this team, you can't play football like this.
     
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  9. Dax

    Dax Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Agree with your vision and the need for personality. My concern though is that both Minamino and Yonemoto are good-willed players who have lots of energy, but not much substance (yet?).
     
  10. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    The number of players in Japan with the kind of substance you expect can be counted on the fingers of a hand. At the end of the day we still have to field a team and go on. Okazaki wasn't much of a player when he was first picked for the national team but he grew with the task. He had this fire in him.
     
  11. Dax

    Dax Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Uhm, what? From what I remember, Okazaki was actually quite decisive for the NT since the get-go. The whole 2009 year with the "record", etc. He had played just few matches before that...

    And of course I'd rather have energetic players, but on my fingers there are other ones :/. I'm just not sure who of the newcomers could keep being called up after this EAFF.
    Hope Endo does.
     
  12. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    When he was first picked, Okazaki was a marginal J-League striker who was scoring between 10 and 14 a season, certainly not the kind of standout that puts the league on fire. The coach believed in him and he improved as he played in the national team.

    Give your names.
     
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  13. Samurai Warrior

    Samurai Warrior Member+

    Dec 2, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    I agree with @Saku² about Yonemoto.

    He is one of Japan's best DMs, I still remember his debut season with FC Tokyo and the promise he showed, but his development was delayed by two lengthy injuries, and now he is back on track.

    I hope Vahid will give him a decent chance against China.
     
  14. Dax

    Dax Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    well between 10 and 14 doesn't seem that marginal to me but let's not digress.

    Aoyama, Kanazaki, Umesaki, Omae, Notsuda, Akasaki are example of players that I was hoping to see. Could even sneak in Saito if we had to call up Kurata.

    I'm not sure about centre backs, I admit it, can't say I see any standouts. I liked Vegalta's Kakuda but he's getting older and more inconsistent.
    This doesn't mean I think they should be part of the JNT, btw. Just that I think it was a good chance to see them here and then we could reflect.
     
  15. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    10 goals in not a lot, Sho Ito had 8 last year. Kawamata had 24, looks what he does. Okada looked beyond the numbers and the sheer talent and saw in Okazaki a striker who was gonna compete, no matter what.

    I see your lists, some of the names are intriguing, but I don't think they would have done anything different from what we've seen today. Kurata was my MOM btw.
     
  16. Whispered11

    Whispered11 Member+

    U.C. Sampdoria
    Japan
    Oct 4, 2011
    Munich, Germany
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Three of these eight names didn't even play. Fujiharu, Taniguchi, Fujita and Kurata just one game.
     
  17. naopon

    naopon Member+

    Jan 2, 2007
    California
    Club:
    Kawasaki Frontale
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Kurata was quite good and Fujita was passable. Ota was disappointing.
     
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  18. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    Jung Woo-Yun was quite good today, I wish we had a player who can hit accurate long passes like he does. I'm surprised he's not more appreciated by their fans. In general, SK has big guys who can move well.
     
  19. jinseokyang

    jinseokyang Member+

    Feb 28, 2011
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    Looks like both sides were generally displeased with some callups...

    lol for some reason everyone except the Korean fans praise JWY... I didn't think he was that good today
     
  20. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    There's prejudice against CSL/J.League players in general.
     
  21. rougou

    rougou Member+

    Dec 7, 2003
    Hyogo
    Club:
    AS Roma
    I found the match pretty boring and tame for a Japan-Korea match, despite the players.
    Japan needed a win but didn't really go for it.
     
  22. Dax

    Dax Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan

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