Here's the first leg schedule with a * denoting the games between clubs that were not champions: Tuesday 29 July: Sparta Prague (Czech Republic, 28.870 coefficient)-Malmo FF (Sweden, 6.265 coefficient) Slovan Bratislava (Slovakia, 8.700 coefficient)-Sheriff Tiraspol (Moldova, 17.075 coefficient) Debrecen (Hungary, 10.325 coefficient)-BATE Borisov (Belarus, 33.725 coefficient) Wednesday 30 July: FK Aktobe (Kazakhstan, 8.150 coefficient)-Steaua Bucuresti (Romania, 39.451 coefficient) Garabag Agdam (Azerbaijan, 7.575 coefficient)-Salzburg (Austria, 46.185 coefficient) AEL Limassol (Cyprus, 7.650 coefficient)-Zenit St. Petersburg (Russia, 73.899 coefficient)* Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk (Ukraine, 32.193 coefficient)-Copenhagen (Denmark, 45.260 coefficient)* HJK Helsinki (Finland, 7.435 coefficient)-APOEL Nicosia (Cyprus, 37.650 coefficient) Grasshoppers (Switzerland, 9.645 coefficient)-Lille (France, 45.300 coefficient)* Feyenoord (Netherlands, 13.362 coefficient)-Besiktas (Turkey, 32.840 coefficient)* Ludogorets Razgrad (Bulgaria, 181.25 coefficient)-Partizan (Serbia, 14.825 coefficient) (Partizan was not the champion but the champion of Serbia was not allowed to participate) Standard Liege (Belgium, 38.260 coefficient)-Panathinaikos (Greece, 30.220 coefficient)* AaB Aalborg (Denmark, 5.260 coefficient)-Dinamo Zagreb (Croatia, 23.925 coefficient) NK Maribor (Slovenia, 16.200 coefficient)-Maccabi Tel Aviv (Israel, 17.875 coefficient) Legia Warsaw (Poland, 15.275 coefficient)-Celtic (Scotland, 36.813 coefficient)
First Leg Results: Garabag Agdam 1:0 Salzburg Debrecen 1:0 BATE Borisov Slovan Bratislava 2:1 Sheriff Tiraspol AaB Aalborg 0:1 Dinamo Zagreb Legia Warsaw 4:1 Celtic FK Aktobe 2:2 Steaua Bucuresti NK Maribor 1:0 Maccabi Tel Aviv HJK Helsinki 2:2 APOEL Nicosia Sparta Prague 4:2 Malmo FF Ludogorets Razgrad 0:0 Partizan AEL Limassol 1:0 Zenit St. Petersburg Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk 0:0 Copenhagen Feyenoord 1:2 Besiktas Grasshoppers 0:2 Lille Standard Liege 0:0 Panathinaikos Celtic, who reached the Group Stage last season, are in trouble. Salzburg and BATE Borisov are other good clubs who lost.
BATE Borisov scored in the 90+4th minute to win the game 3:1 and win the aggregate 3:2 against Debrecen. Without that goal Debrecen would have advanced on away goals. Maribor won the aggregate 3:2 after a 2:2 draw. Panathinaikos 1:2 Standard Liege let the visitors win the aggregate after a scoreless first leg. Lille 1:1 Grasshoppers was today's final score, with Lille winning the aggregate 3:1.
Was surprised to see Celtic so thoroughly dominated in two legs by Legia, not a banner start to the Ronny Delta era. I suppose this doesn't do much to discount the idea that Neil Lennon had accomplished pretty much all he could at Celtic and my guess is he gets courted by a relegation threatened EPL team at mid-season.
Zenit St. Petersburg 3:0 AEL Limassol AEL Limassol, who won the first leg 1:0, had a player ejected in the 26th minute. The second leg was 1:0 until the aggregate-winning goal in the 88th minute and Zenit St. Petersburg scored again in stoppage time. APOEL Nicosia 2:0 HJK Helsinki The first leg was 2:2 and the aggregate was 4:2. Cyprus, which now gets two clubs in the qualifying rounds, had AEL Limassol drop down to the Europa League while APOEL Nicosia advanced in the Champions League. Malmo FF 2:0 Sparta Prague Malmo FF advanced on away goals after a 4:4 aggregate. It's the second consecutive round Malmo FF was unseeded and advanced. Sparta Prague got a red card in the 90+7th minute. Sheriff Tiraspol 0:0 Slovan Bratislava The aggregate was Sheriff Tiraspol 1:2 Slovan Bratislava. Sheriff Tiraspol just needed a 1:0 win to advance on away goals but got a red card and a scoreless second leg. Besiktas 3:1 Feyenoord Besiktas won the aggregate 5:2 Steaua Bucuresti 2:1 FK Aktobe FK Aktobe scored a late goal while down a man but were still eliminated. The first leg was a draw and the aggreagte was 4:3. Copenhagen 2:0 Dnipro Dnipropetrovks Copenhagen advanced. The first leg was scoreless. Salzburg 2:0 Garabag Agdam Garabag Agdam won the first leg 2:1, not 1:0 like i posted before Salzburg won the aggregate 3:2. Celtic 0:2 Legia Warsaw Legia Warsaw won the aggregate 6:1. Dinamo Zagreb 0:2 AaB Aalborg The away club won both games and AaB Aalborg won the aggregate 2:1. Partizan 2:2 Ludogorets Razgrad Partizan's red card in the 41st minute was after all the goals were scored. Ludogorets Razgrad was up 2:0 and a 2:2 draw was enough for them to advance on away goals because the first leg was scoreless. Of the 15 aggregates, 2 were decided by away goals, 7 were decided by 1 goal, 4 were decided by 2 goals, 1 was decided by 3 goals, and 1 was decided by 5 goals. Of the 10 aggregates in the champions path, the seeded club and the unseeded club won 5 each. All five seeded non-champions advanced.
You can read more and watch the highlights here : http://forums.bigsoccer.com/threads...-2014-15-scandinavia-r.2008082/#post-30874555
We don't deserve to be in the final qualifying round but it looks like Legia have messed up big time - http://www.theguardian.com/football...pions-league-reprieve-legia-warsaw-ineligible Celtic could be given a Champions League reprieve after Uefa launched an investigation into the eligibility of one of Legia Warsaw’s players during their 6-1 aggregate win.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28701951 Celtic have been reinstated to the Champions League after Legia Warsaw were kicked out of the competition for fielding an ineligible player. Legia won the third qualifying round tie 6-1 on aggregate but brought on Bartosz Bereszynski for the last two minutes of the second leg, while he was supposed to be serving a suspension. As a result Celtic were handed a 3-0 'walkover' win for the second leg, taking them through on away goals.
What a complete farce. Obviously Legia should take some responsibility but UEFA should have noted the fact when the teamsheets were handed in. His presence had zero impact on a 6-1 win. To make things even more of a joke, he had already served his suspension (missing the two games against St Pats and first against Celtic). However, because he was suspended Legia didn't register him for the games against St Pats so according to UEFA they didn't count. Makes it a total joke.
It does @comme Thing is, Celtic never brought this up it's all through UEFA. I'm not convinced we'll even get through against Maribor. But, at the end of the day, rules are rules. Regardless of how pedantic and arcane they may seem. If UEFA doesn't follow them through then they will open up a whole can of worms going forward. To make matters worse for Legia they missed not 1 but 2 pens at the end of the 1st leg. Either one of those goes in and the overturned result wouldn't have mattered anyway to the final outcome...
Legia can still play in the Europa League, a competition where, realistically, they would have a better chance of advancing. Still they would have liked to see how far they could have gone in the Champions League, and they seem to have a good team to defeat a decent, but not great, Celtic team by that margin. They could have possibly been a great cinderella story in the Champions League. And of course the Champions League pays more than the Europa League. But UEFA had no choice but to follow the rules, you can't blame them too much for following the rules that everyone knows, that you can't field a player who was not eligible. It is a shame, but Legia needed to be more aware of what they were doing in that regard.
Totally agree. Tbh I felt for Legia as they were clearly the better team but my goodwill to them has been eroded by the way they have behaved since then in the open media. None of this situation is Celtic's doing. We have been dragged through the mud by them for no good reason. UEFA have told Celtic that they would not be permitted to play a 'one-off' match with Legia. I believe this was also explained to the Poles. UEFA gave Celtic two choices - Carry on as normal and play our playoff match against Maribor Forfeit the match against Maribor and we would then have been removed from all European competitions for this season. There was no way for Legia to be re-instated into the CL If Legia had scored one of the two penalties they managed to miss in injury time in the first leg then none of this would have mattered as they would still have advanced. And now I see the Polish FA president comes out with something along the lines of football has lost and the sly ones have won after their appeal was dismissed yesterday (as it undoubtedly will be by CAS as well). Again, Celtic have done nothing in this affair so there is no reason to keep throwing mud at us. If anything the Polish FA should be stating the dumb ones have lost. Legia messed up. It wasn't as if they didn't know the rules. They read them and thought they were right to do what they did. That makes it even more idiotic. Time for them to accept their foolish error and move on. That would be the correct course of action but instead they will now go to CAS who will take one look at the UEFA rulebook and throw their case out without so much as a second thought...
Good article regarding the Legia debacle - http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport...r-fault-we-are-not-embarrassed-by-it.25050193
http://www.tas-cas.org/en/infogenerales.asp/4-3-6488-1092-4-1-1/5-0-1092-15-1-1/ FOOTBALL (UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE): LEGIA WARSZAWA FILES AN APPEAL AT THE C.A.S. A decision on request for provisional measures is likely to be issued on Monday 18 August around 18:00 (Swiss time).
Lausanne, 18 August 2014 - The Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) has denied the urgent request for provisional measures filed by the Legia Warszawa SA in the course of its appeal against the UEFA Appeals Body decision of 13 August 2014. The UEFA Appeals Body had confirmed the result 3-0 (forfeit) in favour of Celtic FC against Legia in the second leg of the third qualifying round of the UEFA Champions League. The UEFA considered that Legia had fielded an ineligible player (Bartosz Bereszynski) during the match. Legia Warszawa filed an appeal to the CAS at 17:30 on 15 August 2014 together with an urgent application for provisional measures requesting that it be provisionally admitted to participate in UEFA Champions League matches until the CAS renders its final arbitral award. The appeal is directed against UEFA and Celtic FC which were invited to comment on the Polish club’s request until 13:00 (Swiss time) today. The President of the CAS Appeals Arbitration Division considered the parties’ written submissions and has denied Legia Warszawa’s request. Accordingly, Celtic FC remains qualified to participate in the UEFA Champion’s League 2014/2015 and will play its next match against NK Maribor on 20 August 2014. The CAS arbitration will now continue and a Panel of arbitrators will be constituted to examine this case within the next weeks. On the merits, Legia has requested that no sanctions be imposed on either the club or the player Bereszynski and that UEFA be ordered to pay a financial compensation to the Polish club. For further information related to the CAS activity and procedures in general, please contact either Mr Matthieu Reeb, CAS Secretary General, or Ms Katy Hogg, Media Assistant. Château de Béthusy, Avenue de Beaumont 2, 1012 Lausanne, Switzerland. media@tas-cas.org; Tel: (41 21) 613 50 00; fax: (41 21) 613 50 01, or consult the CAS website: www.tas-cas.org http://www.tas-cas.org/d2wfiles/document/7690/5048/0/Media20Release20(English)2018.08.14.pdf Well I never...
So now they're just after UEFA for money. Although, it was never really about the money apparently... #letfootballwin... I'd imagine there's a very good chance they'll be told to get lost regarding that as well.
Well football did win. Celtic only advanced because of a mishap. That said I am Maribor's biggest fan Of course they want financial compensation. If they can't go in the CL this is the next best thing And while what Legia did was desperate any other club in their position would do the same. And while any other club in Celtic club would do the same how the fans acted is a joke. The bragging is mindblowing. Unless talk celtic and kerrydalestreet are not representative of the clubs overall supporters I personaly hate this club now and I hate Legia (Steaua eliminated them last year and they were complete idiots before the game)
No. Celtic did not advance due to a mishap. Celtic advanced due to an error by Legia which was very clearly stated in the UEFA rulebook. Why is that so difficult for people to accept? A mishap makes it sound like some sort of unfortunate accident. Nothing unfortunate about it in my book. Why have Legia attempted to drag Celtic's name through the mud in all of this...? What did they want Celtic to do for them...? UEFA would not allow a one-off match between the two teams to take place so why did they go public asking Celtic for such a thing to take place when it had nothing to do with us and we had no power over the decision...? Legia made it quite clear to everyone this was about football and not about money. That was their stance at the beginning but how soon things quickly change. As for any other club doing the same I disagree. How about someone stands up and takes the hit for making the idiotic mistake in the first place? What a novel idea that would be. The punishment does not fit the crime (rule) on this occasion. That I can totally agree with however, UEFA could not be seen to change rules for the sake of one team. Can you imagine the can of worms that would open? Maybe they will review the structure at a later date but the simple fact of the matter is Legia messed up and rather than accepting it and moving on with it they are going after anyone they can to cover for it. The large majority of the Celtic support were with Legia at the start of this. Look at the start of the threads on those forums. Attitudes changed once Legia went after Celtic and attempted to blacken our name and make us the scapegoats for their ineptitude. Seems fairly rational to me.
That is because you have no ideea what was the mistake. Yes the mistake was not to put the guy on the sheet. The how is the mishap. It was a simple fail to copy I didn't expect Celtic to not take advantage but this is BS. Celtic could have said yeah forget it and Legia would have advanced. That is in the rules I am not saying they should, but the "hands were tied" attitude is BS and I hate it Along with this attitue that it was a speeding train and nothing could be done and common sense can't be used No other club wouldn't have just accepted it. No attitude change. The minute Celtic was announced as seed the bragging happened. Lots of bragging before the letter. If the letter was the chance of tune sure but it was before that Among the countless smilies and gifs and reaction videos Listen .... believe what you want about your team you can accept whatever you want but if you think that Celtic came out with a better reputation out of this you are mistaken. If you care or not about what the foreigners that that is irrelelvant but Celtic will have lots of haters in the football world
1) You are still calling it a mishap. 2) I know exactly what the error was. Legia read the rules and failed to comprehend them. They didn't forget. They thought, after reading the rules, that they could play the player as the suspension was clear. Therefore they did not read the rules correctly stating that the player had to be a part of the squad for it to count as part of his suspension. That's not a mishap as you keep calling it. It's a f**k up. A f**k up that Legia have still not accepted responsibility for. You don't know what you are talking about. If Celtic had said 'forget it' Legia would still not have advanced. All that would have happened is Celtic would have forfeited the tie against Maribor. Maribor would have been given a bye into the group stages and Celtic would have been eliminated from European competition for this season. Legia would have remained in the Europa league. So you see, you don't really understand the situation and this goes back to one of my original points and my main gripe against Legia. They have painted Celtic as being the bad guys in this but all Celtic have done is follow UEFA's instructions. If they tried to deviate from that Celtic would have lost out on European football this season because of Legia's stupidity. Hate it all you like but that's the facts. Celtic were powerless to do anything and there was nothing Celtic could do to have Legia inserted back into the CL. Please read the quoted section and take it in as it makes perfect sense - Every club that plays in UEFA's competitions would have to accept it. They are the governing body and it is clearly stated in their rulebook. As mentioned in the quote above if we aren't going to follow the rules what is the point in having a governing body such as UEFA...? Maybe from the odd poster on forums but the large majority were vary wary of playing Legia and had plenty of respect for them until the complaining began. These quotes are from the beginning of the Legia thread after the result and before the mud throwing began - And these are after the error was first announced - Such is the internet. We got hammered but then we get thrown an unlikely lifeline. Again, and I wish I didn't have to keep re-iterating this but you don't seem to be getting it, the fans weren't laughing at Legia (apart from the odd idiot) until Legia played dirty on Celtic and then, and only then, did the vast majority turn on Legia, and I fully understand why. I number myself in that majority. Listen... facts are Celtic did nothing wrong in this and could do nothing to prevent what happened. Those are the facts and they cannot be disputed. Also, every Celtic supporter knows that Celtic's reputation has been affected by this in a negative way. Why do you think so many have turned on Legia!?!? Aren't you reading anything I'm typing??? Final point - Legia have damaged my clubs reputation due to them making a stupid mistake and then dragging it out into the public domain and whining on about Celtic doing the right thing. Well here's a newsflash for you - Celtic did the right thing. They followed the rules set down by the governing body. It wasn't only the right thing for them to do, it was the ONLY THING they could do.
See this is what I hate. This. Yes you are right but this was after the draw. I do understand the situation Yes if after the draw Celtic said forget it Maribor would have went to the group stage. I didn't mean after the draw I mean after UEFA awarded the 3-0 to Celtic. That is when they could have said no. And you are making a mistake thinking I say this because of the stuff Legia said. No this situation almost happened to a Romanaian club last year. Our press got wind of it (due to Steaua president) and told the president of CFR (the club in question) not to play the suspended player because his suspension wasn't up due to them making the same mistake as Legia. And then the press asked Steaua's president of the what and if's of the situation. And one of the ifs is that is some cases the club (this case Celtic) must accept the 3-0 win. I say some because in instances of doping or match fixing clubs are thrown out And Steaua's president knows a thing or 2 about preliminary rounds and rules. Steaua have been playing in them since basically always
You're wrong and I'll tell you why. Celtic did not initiate or instigate any of this. Celtic weren't even aware Legia had played a player who was suspended. UEFA picked up on it and acted on it so again, if Celtic were to then say to UEFA forget about it what exactly do you think UEFA would say to a club telling them what to do with their rules within their competitions...? Celtic were powerless to prevent what happened. As far as we were concerned we were well beaten and out of the CL.
Again with the wording. Yes once again you are right. But they had the power to say no we do not want to win this 3-0. I am not saying they should but you have to stop saying nothing it could have been done by Celtic UEFA wouldn't have said anything because that is the rule. In order for Celtic to progress they must accept to rulling. If they don't the other club progreses. They were not powerless This isn't match fixing we are talking about
Again with the wording...? I don't follow you. I think we're going around in circles. If Celtic were to reject UEFA's decision that would then mean we were breaking the laws put down by the governing body would it not...?