2016/21 Masaya Okugawa | 2014/19 Takumi Minamino @ FC Red Bull Salzburg (AUT)

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  1. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
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    #351 seolseol, Sep 11, 2016
    Came on in the 75 th minute. Scored in the 85 th and 88 th minute. 4-0 win.
     
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  2. Whispered11

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    U.C. Sampdoria
    Japan
    Oct 4, 2011
    Munich, Germany
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    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
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    #352 Whispered11, Sep 12, 2016
    Leipzig next year?
     
  3. teioh

    teioh Member+

    Apr 17, 2012
    #353 teioh, Sep 12, 2016
    A transfer rumor?
     
  4. Dax

    Dax Moderator
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    Feb 29, 2012
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    #354 Dax, Sep 14, 2016
    no, just making things up because Leizpig's owners are the same as Salzburg
     
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  5. Dax

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    Feb 29, 2012
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    #355 Dax, Sep 16, 2016
    '90 for Minamino yesterday in EL. Good since their EL matches are harder than their league ones
     
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  6. marten48

    marten48 Member

    Jun 2, 2012
    United States
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    #356 marten48, Sep 29, 2016
    Minamino came on as a sub vs. Schalke in the EL. Was positive and lively and helped his team get back into the game.
     
  7. Dax

    Dax Moderator
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    Feb 29, 2012
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    #357 Dax, Sep 30, 2016
    Okugawa scores
     
  8. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
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    #358 Saku², Sep 30, 2016
    Nice gift for his 28th birthday
     
  9. Gordon1995

    Gordon1995 Member+

    Oct 3, 2013
    #359 Gordon1995, Oct 1, 2016
    He is that old? Didn't realise that he aged so much overnight.
     
  10. Dax

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    Feb 29, 2012
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    #360 Dax, Oct 2, 2016
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  11. Interiores

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    East Tokyo United
    Japan
    Jun 3, 2016
    Japan
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    #361 Interiores, Oct 3, 2016
    Still at FC Liefering? Same case with Usami or Kakitani? It's frustrating to see Japanese with a legit talent being let down by their unability to adapt to European game for tactical reasons. Japan youth coaching system need to be overhauled.
     
  12. Dax

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    #362 Dax, Oct 3, 2016
    I've seen Okugawa play a lot in Liefering, and I can 100% assure you that the problem is not tactical, or at least that's certainly not the main reason...
     
  13. Interiores

    Interiores Member

    East Tokyo United
    Japan
    Jun 3, 2016
    Japan
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    #363 Interiores, Oct 3, 2016
    So what is it then?
     
  14. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
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    #364 seolseol, Oct 3, 2016
    Just watch majority of the asian players going to Europe. Not many fullfill the promises and hopes themselves and others had.
     
  15. Dax

    Dax Moderator
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    Feb 29, 2012
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    #365 Dax, Oct 3, 2016
    It's that he's weak.
    A combination of the fact that he seems unable to adjust to the timing of the match* and the fact that mentally he seems unable to handle the pressure and do freely what he used to do. He was a good player technically and yet I've seen him unable to trap a ball properly, displaced passes... he's lacking in sense of timing.

    Don't get me wrong, he may also be having troubles tactically but it's not the main thing.
    Add the fact that he's not scoring, and that's also because he's not even shooting... that's literally the thing he needs to do if he wants to have a chance to play for Salzburg. He never feints before shooting anymore too.

    *obviously, it's not a problem of pace per se because this isn't high level. But he is still lacking the intensity to be constantly involved in the actions. He loses most aerial battles because he seems to barely be jumping. He just feels overwhelmed by it. You know Okazaki? This is his opposite.

    I've made a quick compilation for you from the last match (with an extra lol at the end from the match vs Horn), take a look if you want. Of course, it's not like he doesn't land a pass anymore, I'm picking a few actions to illustrate the point. Apart from the goal he didn't have a single other shot in the last game btw.
    https://streamable.com/yinz
     
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  16. Dax

    Dax Moderator
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    Feb 29, 2012
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    #366 Dax, Oct 14, 2016
    Okugawa assisted the 4th goal today
     
  17. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
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    FC Salzburg
    #367 Saku², Oct 14, 2016
    amazing because if he read your posts, he'd be depressed.
     
  18. Gordon1995

    Gordon1995 Member+

    Oct 3, 2013
    #368 Gordon1995, Oct 14, 2016
    Anyone knows how is Okugawa performing now?
     
  19. Dax

    Dax Moderator
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    Feb 29, 2012
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    #369 Dax, Oct 16, 2016
    it's literally 3 posts above you.
     
  20. Dax

    Dax Moderator
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    Feb 29, 2012
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    #370 Dax, Nov 1, 2016
    Okugawa scores...
     
  21. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
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    Manchester United FC
    #371 seolseol, Nov 27, 2016
    Havent scored in a while. Hwang has taken his spot. Came on and played about 15 minutes today. They lost again. Losing many points now.
     
  22. zdrstvte

    zdrstvte Member+

    Aug 27, 2012
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    West Ham United FC
    #372 zdrstvte, Nov 28, 2016
    You do realise they play in different positions?
     
  23. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
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    #373 seolseol, Nov 28, 2016
    Thats true. But I believe Hwang is on the reasons he is not playing so much. Could be used in the same position. Hwang has been in good form also.
     
  24. Dax

    Dax Moderator
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    Feb 29, 2012
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    #374 Dax, Nov 30, 2016
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  25. zdrstvte

    zdrstvte Member+

    Aug 27, 2012
    Club:
    West Ham United FC
    #375 zdrstvte, Dec 17, 2016
    A brace for Minamino today, who made his second start of the season. He's now the team's joint top scorer in the league with six goals, having only started two games this season.
     
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