2013-2014 UEFA Champions League Playoff Round [R]

Discussion in 'Champions League' started by EvanJ, Aug 7, 2013.

  1. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  2. SJJ

    SJJ Member

    Sep 20, 1999
    Royal Oak, MI, USA
    Club:
    Michigan Bucks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You can now compute possible pots for the group stage draw. This chart shows the listing if the ten seeded teams: five "league" teams (bold) and five "champions" teams (italic-bold) advance. Call this the "worst-case" scenario chart:

    PositionClubCoefficient
    1FC Bayern München (GER) -- holders146.922
    2FC Barcelona (ESP)157.605
    3Chelsea FC (ENG)137.592
    4Real Madrid CF (ESP)136.605
    5Manchester United FC (ENG)130.592
    6Arsenal FC (ENG)113.592
    7FC Porto (POR)104.833
    8SL Benfica (POR)102.833
    9Club Atlético de Madrid (ESP)99.605
    10Olympique Lyonnais (FRA)95.800
    11FC Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR)94.951
    12AC Milan (ITA)93.829
    13FC Schalke 04 (GER)84.922
    14Olympique de Marseille (FRA)78.800
    15PFC CSKA Moksva (RUS)77.766
    16Paris Saint-Germain FC (FRA)71.800
    17Juventus (ITA)70.829
    18FC Zenit St Petersburg (RUS)70.766
    19Manchester City FC (ENG)70.592
    20AFC Ajax (NED)64.945
    21Borussia Dortmund (GER)61.922
    22FC Basel 1893 (SUI)59.785
    23Olympiacos FC (GRE)57.800
    24Galatasaray AŞ (TUR)54.400
    25Bayer 04 Leverkusen (GER)53.922
    26FC København (DEN)47.140
    27SSC Napoli (ITA)46.829
    28RSC Anderlecht (BEL)44.880
    29Celtic FC (SCO)37.538
    30FC Steaua Bucuresti (ROU)35.604
    31FC Viktoria Plzeň (CZE)28.745
    32GNK Dinamo Zagreb (CRO)25.916


    This shows that Benfica is garunteed pot 1; PSG is garunteed pot 2; Galatasaray is garunteed pot 3. Manchester City can get pushed down to pot 3. (They get to pot 3 if three of the five top seeds advance.)
     
  3. SJJ

    SJJ Member

    Sep 20, 1999
    Royal Oak, MI, USA
    Club:
    Michigan Bucks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This "best-case" scenario chart isn't gonna' happen, but shows the highest each team can reach, if the un-seeded team wins all 10 ties:

    PositionClubCoefficient
    1FC Bayern München (GER) -- holders146.922
    2FC Barcelona (ESP)157.605
    3Chelsea FC (ENG)137.592
    4Real Madrid CF (ESP)136.605
    5Manchester United FC (ENG)130.592
    6FC Porto (POR)104.833
    7SL Benfica (POR)102.833
    8Club Atlético de Madrid (ESP)99.605
    9FC Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR)94.951
    10Olympique de Marseille (FRA)78.800
    11PFC CSKA Moksva (RUS)77.766
    12Paris Saint-Germain FC (FRA)71.800
    13Juventus (ITA)70.829
    14Manchester City FC (ENG)70.592
    15-tieAFC Ajax (NED)64.945
    15-tiePSV Eindhoven (NED)64.945
    17FC Metalist Kharkiv (UKR)62.451
    18Borussia Dortmund (GER)61.922
    19Olympiacos FC (GRE)57.800
    20Galatasaray AŞ (TUR)54.400
    21Bayer 04 Leverkusen (GER)53.922
    22FC København (DEN)47.140
    23SSC Napoli (ITA)46.829
    24Fenerbahçe SK (TUR)46.400
    25RSC Anderlecht (BEL)44.880
    26Real Sociedad de Fútbol (ESP)17.605
    27FK Austria Wien (AUT)16.575
    28Legia Warszawa (POL)13.650
    29FC Paços de Ferreira (POR)12.833
    30NK Maribor (SVN)9.941
    31PFC Ludogorets Razgrad (BUL)3.450
    32FC Shakhter Karagandy (KAZ)2.941

    So in this impossible scenario, Atletico Madrid stays in pot 1, Eindhoven hangs onto pot 2, and Fenerbahce squeezes into pot 3. (And, no, I don't know how to break the tie between Ajax and Eindhoven.)
     
  4. fridge46

    fridge46 Member

    Oct 23, 2011
    For teams with identical coefficent, the team who scored the most coefficient points in the latest season (12/13 in this case) is ranked higher.

    Last season, Ajax obtained 9.843 points, PSV 5.843. Therefore, Ajax is ranked above PSV.

    http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/data/method4/trank2013.html

    If the points obtained in this year are identical, then the previous years points are compared.

    If teams collect the same number of points each year for the 5 year coefficient, whoever finished higher in the league as the end of the period is ranked higher
     
  5. SJJ

    SJJ Member

    Sep 20, 1999
    Royal Oak, MI, USA
    Club:
    Michigan Bucks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Metalist disqualified from UEFA competitions
    Published: Wednesday 14 August 2013, 12.14CET
    http://www.uefa.com/uefa/disciplinary/news/newsid=1981054.html
    "FC Metalist Kharkiv are disqualified from UEFA competitions for season 2013/14 following the conclusion of disciplinary proceedings against the Ukrainian club."

    PAOK to replace Metalist in play-offs
    Published: Wednesday 14 August 2013, 17.00CET
    http://www.uefa.com/uefa/disciplinary/news/newsid=1981184.html
    "FC Metalist Kharkiv, disqualified from 2013/14 UEFA competition, have been replaced by PAOK FC, with Maccabi Tel-Aviv FC qualifying for the UEFA Europa League proper."
    "As a consequence the Greek side, eliminated by Metalist in the third qualifying round, will now face FC Schalke 04 in the UEFA Champions League play-offs, with the first leg to be played on 21 August in Germany."
     
  6. SJJ

    SJJ Member

    Sep 20, 1999
    Royal Oak, MI, USA
    Club:
    Michigan Bucks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    POAK's coefficient is 28.800, so in my second (impossible-to-happen) chart, remove #17 Kharkiv and move up everyone from #18 Dortmund to #25 Anderlecht. (Anderlecht now moves to #24 and pot #3.)
     
  7. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Today's first leg final scores:

    Shakhter Karagandy (Kazakhstan) 2-0 Celtic (Scotland)
    Pacos de Ferreira (Portugal) 1-4 Zenit St. Petersburg (Russia)
    Lyon (France) 0-2 Real Sociedad (Spain) (Lyon got the only red card of the day)
    Viktoria Plzen (Czech Republic) 3-1 Maribor (Slovenia)
    PSV Eindhoven (Netherlands) 1-1 AC Milan (Italy)
     
  8. Buddydog

    Buddydog Member

    Feb 8, 2013
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Here's one nice pick if someone wants to follow ;)

    SCHALKE 04 – PAOK

    This match became interesting the very moment when it was announced that Metalist will be disqualified and that PAOK will take their place in this play-off. First of all PAOK has an advantage concerning coach Huub Stevens who was previously the coach of german team and his knowledge of Schalke’s players, gamestyle and capacity of the team will certainly be of great use for the Greeks.

    Schalke is fourth team in Germany, but if we are to be realistic, they were fourth with Freiburg and Eintracht as table rivals and they were far, far behind leading three teams so I don’t see them as one of top german teams because they are miles away from Dortmund or Bayern.

    On top of all Schalke will surely miss their key striker and top star Huntelaar who is injured and that information makes me more certain that this bet has a value.

    Bet: -1,5 handicap

    Tip: 2

    Odds: @ 1,75

    Cheers ;)
     
  9. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    None of the home clubs won today:

    Dinamo Zagreb (Croatia) 0-2 Austria Wien (Austria)
    Fenerbahce (Turkey) 0-3 Arsenal (England)
    Ludogorets Razgrad (Bulgaria) 2-4 Basel (Switzerland)
    Schalke 04 (Germany) 1-1 PAOK (Greece)
    Steaua Bucuresti (Romania) 1-1 Legia Warsaw (Poland)

    There were two red cards, which went to Dinamo Zagreb and Ludogorets Razgrad.
     
  10. zizou013

    zizou013 New Member

    Aug 19, 2013
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Hi guys,I find this really interesting,what do you think?

    Rapid - Dila Gori

    Austrian media Dilu calls "No Name Club," but Rapid coach Barisic warns of errors from Aalborg and Hajduk, and has meticulously prepared a way to finally hit the net of the club who in four European matches this season has not received a goal.

    Tip:1

    Odds: @ 1.60
     
  11. WritingChris

    WritingChris New Member

    Aug 22, 2013
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
  12. Buddydog

    Buddydog Member

    Feb 8, 2013
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    BASEL - LUDOGORETS

    First match in Bulgaria has already shown us how these two teams play and that is open and aggressively. Ludogorets has a big task today, they must chase at least 3 goal margin victory or 4:2 to get extra time chance. They have already proven that they have a quality attacking system in two tough games against Partizan and away against Slovan.

    On the other hand Basel is not the kind of team which relies on defending. Their defensive part has not been very convincing this year and they’ve hardly managed to get a clean sheet this season so I expect them to react on strong Ludogorets’ offensive with attacking play of their own. Against Maccabi they had advantage from the first game but were still seeking for that extra goal to confirm their overall victory. Salah and Stocker are both available after minor injuries so they shouldn’t have problems scoring.

    Ludogorets has been defending quite well in national championship but Basel is by far better team than Bulgarian teams and they will have hard time keeping their net untouched especially if they are to go all out as I expect and as the result from first match obliges them to do so.

    Both teams will get 50k euros per player if they go through in group stage, and I don’t expect Ludogorets to go in groups but that kind of money will be a good motivation for them to at least try to do something here.

    Bet: Both to score

    Tip: Yes

    Odds: 1.85

    Cheers ;)
     
  13. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yesterday's final scores:

    Austria Wien (Austria) 2-3 Dinamo Zagreb (Croatia)- Austria Wien won aggregate 4-3
    Basel (Switzerland) 2-0 Ludogorets Razgrad (Bulgaria)- Basel won aggregate 6-2
    Legia Warsaw (Poland) 2-2 Steaua Bucuresti (Romania)- 3-3 aggregate, Steaua Bucuresti advanced on away goals
    PAOK (Greece) 2-3 Schalke 04 (Germany)- Schalke 04 won aggregate 4-3
    Arsenal (England) 2-0 Fenerbahce (Turkey)- Arsenal won aggregate 5-0

    PAOK and Schalke 04 were 1-1 in the second leg and tied on aggregate and away goals when Schalke 04 got a red card, but Schalke 04 outscored PAOK after that.
     
  14. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Today's final scores:

    Zenit St. Petersburg (Russia) 4-2 Pacos de Ferreira (Portugal)- Zenit St. Petersburg won aggregate 8-3
    AC Milan (Italy) 3-0 PSV Eindhoven (Netherlands)- AC Milan won aggregate 4-1
    Celtic (Scotland) 3-0 Shakhter Karagandy (Kazakhstan)- Celtic won aggregate 3-2 with the aggregate-winning goal in second half stoppage time
    Maribor (Slovenia) 0-1 Viktoria Plzen (Czech Republic)- Viktoria Plzen won aggregate 4-1)
    Real Sociedad (Spain) 2-0 Lyon (France)- Real Sociedad won aggregate 4-0
     

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