An interesting Training Camp thread will be homegrown White and Shanosky vs. Kitchen and Korb. Our Academy boys have trained with United for some time, IIRC, and probably have adjusted to the fast pace. But Korb and especially Kitchen come with major college reputations. And they could be competing for playing time at the same positions. Bring it on!
If you think I'm downbeat on DCU's picks, you're wrong. I'm very pleased with the three choices. I do feel that as MLS matures and rosters again expand, teams will have to stock through the draft. Maybe not superstars, but they must obtain starters from time to time and acquire roster depth as well. Using your example, a team that had only one draft choice stick around for a year would get an "F" in my book (sort of like Nick Van Sicklen and Brad/Jay/Peter North type of drafts.) If Kitchen was in the running for ROY -- yes it's an "A" draft -- like the one that brought Pontius and Wallace (and Barklage and Kocic as well).
Joe (or anyone else who would care to reply), is there anyone else in the Supplemental Draft on Tuesday, that would be a decent pickup, or are the rest pretty much training camp-fodder? Goalkeepers: Jeff Attinella (South Florida) Josh Ford (Connecticut) Jimmy Maurer (South Carolina) Others: Clint Irwin (Elon), Zach Johnson (West Virginia) Defenders: Michael Boxall (UC Santa Barbara) Curtis Ushedo (UAB) Greg King (Connecticut) Andrew Welker (Seton Hall) Others: Indy Smith (UNC Wilmington), Ben Havey (Boston University), Mark Wiltse (South Carolina) Midfielders: JC Banks (Green Bay-Wisconsin) Daniel Keat (Dartmouth) Nathaniel Baako (William & Mary) Lebogang Pila (St. Peter’s) Matheus Braga (Penn State) Ashley McInnes (Tulsa) Ben Sippola (Butler) Others: Ernesto Carranza (Sacremento State), Matt Marcin (Providence), Doug Rodkey (Maryland) Forwards: Amani Walker (UC Irvine) Matt Eliason (Northwestern) Steven Beattie (Northern Kentucky) Andy Adlard (Indiana) Others: Spenser Thompson (UC Irvine), Sverre Wegge Gundhus (St. John’s), Blake Brettschneider (South Carolina) Here's the link to the whole article on MLS.COM: http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/top-players-available-tuesdays-supplemental-draft
And yet Wallace, Barklage and Kocic are gone, while Pontius hasn't fulfilled his potential due at least partly to injury. Using your (pretty tough) standards, there's no way I'd grade that an A. It's closer to a C.
This is something that I've been thinking about a lot today. Here's an article that I wrote on the supplemental draft. I think DCU is going to try and get 2 players. They have 5 open slots. The first player (#21, 3rd pick in the 2nd round) is someone that they hope is going to be a regular on the reserves. The second (#39, 3rd pick in the 3rd round), I hope they go for a risky pick with a high ceiling. GK is covered. I'd like to get a target forward - but I don't really see anyone that should be there at #21. Additionally, I'd like a wide back, but the pickings seem pretty slim there as well. There are tons of middling center backs which we need for depth. Currently, Jakovic, Kitchen, James, White.... Here are the players that I'd like DCU to take (accounting for 21 players selected before DCU) with the 1st choice: CB depth: Dwayne Williams (URI), Yannick Salmon (Rutgers), Ben Havey (BU) MF depth: Matt Marcin (Prov), Doug Rodkey (MD) F depth: David Zamora (Cal-Poly), Aaron O'neal (BU) I'd probably go CB. For the low risk/high reward: I'd take MF Lebo Pila (St Peters), F Samson Malijani (FDU) former AA, RB Rob Burnett (Gtown), F Akil Freitas (NC State) or MF Nick Sowers (Rollins). There's another ball controlling MF from Midwest State (D2) who's pretty good. FYI - Barry Rice is not going to training camp.
True, but in exchange for Wallace we did get Dax, that has to be factored in. I believe Barklage is invited to training camp. Plus, having two ACL tears in two years isn't exactly something that can be predicted.
Unfortunately Wallace and Pontius (and Barklage as well) suffered serious injuries. However, Wallace was seen by Portland as having sufficient value to be part of the Dax McCarty trade so I would say another team graded him at starter/serious depth material. Pontius, if he recovers from his surgery, will be a starter in the league for a long time. Barklage certainly was good depth, he was very unlucky with his two! knee injuries. I hope he comes back (I bought his jersey at the equipment sale). Kocic, IIRC, started for Toronto in Jaime's last game. He's depth as well. The fact that DCU currently retains only one of that draft class on the roster doesn't mean the quality of the players was lacking -- maybe the "quality" was lacking somewhere else.
I thought Boxall of UCSB was considered a top prospect. What happened? (Or am I confusing him with someone else?)
Curious. I think you had him rated higher than Soares or Tetteh. Maybe someone will come up with a "steal" (but not DCU, I'm afraid).
I have never seen a college game and I don't plan to start now. But that won't stop me from opining in a most heartfelt manner that I hope DC drafts either Lebogang Pila or Samson Malijani today. Since there is no expectation of success, I see the supplemental draft as a place to take the risky pick. Pick the guy who either gets cut after one day of training or turns into the next Etcheverry.
Lebo's nickname the first year is going to be WTF. If Malijani can come back from his injuries, he could be a special player. 18 goals, nothing to complain about.
I hope Keat drops to DCU's second round pick but I'm not holding my breath. He seems like the exact type of pick that would interest General Benny but I would sincerely doubt he drops that far. If DCU can get another Devon McTavish out of the Supplemental Draft today than I'd say its a success.
Would you consider Will Bruin quick or fast? Bruin had 5 yrds on Boxall and Boxall caught up to him, dispossessing Bruin before Bruin fouled Boxall. Take it for what its worth but you can determine for yourself from the combine highlights on mlsoccer whether Boxall has slow feet.
hate to give SoccerAmerica too much credit , but this is a good little story about Perry Kitchen .... from his parents POV http://www.socceramerica.com/article/41044/long-commutes-pay-off-for-dc-pick-perry-kitchen.html
United takes .... Blake Brettschneider .... who? Former 'Cock .... ranked 119 by JSF, well behind the 2 forwards he mentioned above
Here's the draft so far: Round 1 1 Boxall to VAN 2 Spencer Thompson to POR 3 Daniel Keat to LAG 4 Jimmy Mower to RBNY 5 Ryan Richter to PHI 6 Hunter Christensen to NER 7 Evan Newton to HOU 8 Jimmy Banks to TFC 9 Amani Walker to CHI 10 Sam Scales to SKC 11 Josh Ford to SEA 12 Robbie Lynch to POR 13 Stephen Beattie to TFC 14 Jeff Attinella to RSl 15 Alexis Pradie to DAL 16 Ryan Thomas to LAG 17 Paul Ogunyemi to DAL 18 Bryan Martinez to DAL
Round 2 19 Joe Anderson to VAN 20 Raymundo Reza to POR 21 Blake Brettschneider to DCU 22 Ernesto Carranza to CHV 23 Josh Walburn to PHI 24 Fernando Cabadas to NER 25 Sergio Castillo to HOU 26 Spencer Thompson to TFC 27 Yannick Salmon to CHI 28 Mike Jones to SKC 29 Corey Attaway to SEA 30 Ben Sippola to CMB 31 Teddy Schneider to NYRB 32 Andrew Cost to RSL 33 Phillip Tuttle to SJE 34 Dustin McCarty to LAG 35 Ariel Osorio to DAL 36 Phil Bannister to COL