2011/12 Tomoaki Makino @ 1. FC Köln (GER) Thread [R]

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  1. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
  2. AKITOD

    AKITOD Member+

    Apr 5, 2007
    Hobart, Aust
    Club:
    JEF United Ichihara
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Excellent!!!
     
  3. sc-f

    sc-f Member+

    May 23, 2009
    Club:
    SC Freiburg
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    According to the article above, Reds want to loan him for a year...

    If this loan happens, after the year he may probably leave for next to nothing and join Reds for good. I can't imagine Makino challenging Europe again, after all the things he said about how he wants to prove himself.
     
  4. stefanole

    stefanole Member

    Mar 26, 2009
    Hiroshima
    Club:
    Sanfrecce Hiroshima FC
  5. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Yeah
     
  6. AKITOD

    AKITOD Member+

    Apr 5, 2007
    Hobart, Aust
    Club:
    JEF United Ichihara
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    I don't get it, are people upset he's coming back to Japan? Or upset that he's going to Urawa?

    Cause it's definitely a good idea for him to come back to Japan. Playing regularly in J1 is most certainly better than playing for a relegation threatened 2.Bundesliga side.
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    People need to remember that the J.League has produced plenty of international quality players over the years, it's not the end of the world. He can still learn and develop there.
     
  7. Blue-San

    Blue-San Member+

    Jun 21, 2011
    Club:
    Kashima Antlers
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    I agree and am excited to see him back.


    Perhaps people here are a bit disappointed but it could also be the Urawa hate which is always present hehe :p
     
  8. sc-f

    sc-f Member+

    May 23, 2009
    Club:
    SC Freiburg
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    You got to understand Sanfrecce-supporters. Makino left to Köln for free, and if he didn't make it they naturally expect their local hero to return. Instead, he goes to Reds, where seemingly all the better talents out of Sanfrecce head, including the manager.

    Secondly, there is a sharp contrast of what he said in interviews just some weeks ago when he talked about how important it was to be in Europe and fight. A move to the Reds, if true that he will join on a 1-year-loan, at his age, and with the option to get regular playing time in Buli 2, imo ends his adventure. He may develop but it will be a development in a lukewarm environment - and I am not talking about the quality of J1: It's just a difference if you are in a place where you are automatically a star, or if you have to fight for a window seat even on the team bus.

    Edit: Anyway, nothing's official yet...
     
  9. AKITOD

    AKITOD Member+

    Apr 5, 2007
    Hobart, Aust
    Club:
    JEF United Ichihara
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Yeah, i get where you're coming from. As I follow most closely the NT I don't concern myself with which club a good player goes to, rather the league they're in (unless the team's in UCL or something).

    I don't care so much for lacking the aggressive nature of an overseas environment, especially for defensive players it doesn't bother me too much. You only need to think of Nakazawa, Tulio, Matsuda, Akita, Konno, Komano, Kaji, Iwamasa etc etc etc... as proof that top quality defenders can spend their time in Japan and be top quality.
     
  10. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    +1
    He talked too much to back up. He had a golden opportunity to keep chasing his dream so I really hope he goes to Frankfurt in the end, otherwise the failure will be clear.
     
  11. karolb

    karolb Member

    Apr 16, 2008
    Germany
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    according to kicker Makino will be loaned to Urawa:

     
  12. sc-f

    sc-f Member+

    May 23, 2009
    Club:
    SC Freiburg
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    For a year. I'll say it again (and not because I was looking forward to see him in the stadium here): This is the end of his adventure.
     
  13. Majster2

    Majster2 Member+

    Apr 23, 2010
    Poland
    Club:
    Urawa RD
    Can he play as a striker?

    Whoa, ending his trip this way, burning all the bridges behind him...

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    :eek:
     
  14. Blue-San

    Blue-San Member+

    Jun 21, 2011
    Club:
    Kashima Antlers
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Perhaps a sum of what he says? And the reason he is crying?
     
  15. Majster2

    Majster2 Member+

    Apr 23, 2010
    Poland
    Club:
    Urawa RD
    That's a video from press conference after he left Sanfrecce and decided to go to Europe. He's crying as he had to leave Hiroshima of course.

    Finke is a true mastermind... Thank you for this 0 yen transfer!

    So let's wait for official announcement and close this thread.
     
  16. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Turned out to be a depressing thread, from the beginning to the end. :/
     
  17. karolb

    karolb Member

    Apr 16, 2008
    Germany
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    and also according to hr-online.de FSV Frankfurt gave up to get Makino, so just official announcement left by Urawa/Köln i would say...
     
  18. sc-f

    sc-f Member+

    May 23, 2009
    Club:
    SC Freiburg
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
  19. karolb

    karolb Member

    Apr 16, 2008
    Germany
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  20. sc-f

    sc-f Member+

    May 23, 2009
    Club:
    SC Freiburg
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
  21. sc-f

    sc-f Member+

    May 23, 2009
    Club:
    SC Freiburg
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
  22. teioh

    teioh Member+

    Apr 17, 2012
    They need some japanese sponsor?
     
  23. Whispered11

    Whispered11 Member+

    U.C. Sampdoria
    Japan
    Oct 4, 2011
    Munich, Germany
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    WTF?
    And why in the world should he go again in Koln? Right, there isn't Solbakken anymore, but.. they're in 2. Bundesliga and they don't seem capable of reaching promotion.
     
  24. sc-f

    sc-f Member+

    May 23, 2009
    Club:
    SC Freiburg
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    He still has contract at Köln until summer 2013. I guess they are just asking for some money if Urawa wants to keep him.
     
  25. Whispered11

    Whispered11 Member+

    U.C. Sampdoria
    Japan
    Oct 4, 2011
    Munich, Germany
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    I still think that Makino COULD take another chance in Europe. But not in Koln.
     

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