2011/12 Takashi Usami @ Bayern Munich (GER/CL) Thread [R]

Heynckes, take that.

 

I'm very happy. And when I seen Olic missing the penalty i thinked: TAKE THIS HEYN-MY-A**!!!

 

http://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/takashi-usami/wechselt-nach-hoffenheim-24257488.bild.html

Usami declines an offer from Liverpool to join Hoffenheim on loan, says Bild.

 

why loan?

 

And Gamba should care about that?

Either pay up or he ll play for Gamba. They are in a shitty positions as it is. They either get the money for Usami or get Usami. Or this will become a joke

 

Like a boss.

 

While I will believe you that they may be more "human" like I seriously doubt it they are all Fairytale like and will ask Usami where he wants to go and than will tell him they will do whatever it is in their power to make it happen. Even if it means to PAY instead of GET the money and if need be get relegated.

I am sure they want to just like any other team cash in on their players and since they are their players, want to USE them if no one is willing to PAY UP.

No offense ment SamuraiBlue 2002 I do believe in ethics and good will but not in lala land and living saints of a football club.
I would buy that their logic is that they will loan him and hope that after that the club will actually pay the fee they want and believe that without loaning him no one will ever pay such a fee and they want to cash in and in the progress of all of that the player gets his wish by playing in Europe. But I dont like it. Because loaned out players are always in risk of being benched. If you pay 3 mils for a guy you will give him chance and play him but if you loaned him you never know, they can use him for rotation, for backup, or honestly want to test him and play him.

Don't get me wrong I think a club like Hoffenheim would be great for Usami, just this loan option bothers me.

 

Blue-san >

It's always the same pattern, stop thinking about how an european would do.

 

1.

If they want to do what is best for the player release him on free and let him decide where he wants to go, he will be a more attractive transfer target in that case.


2. No I dont think he is stupid, naive would be the word. (for instance Bayern...) But if he rejected Liverpool and has chosen Hoffenheim I see that as a good move

3. Loan fee... transfer fee of 3 mils... no one will pay....

They can lower it to the amount they think someone WILL PAY

Like I said I trust in your word that Japanese clubs are perhaps more moral like (than most of European clubs not all) but dont try to present them as some Gold Fish which makes your wishes come true. They are doing business just like any other Football club.

And I never said clubs are not willing to pay 3 mils or are willing to pay. But for instance if we speak about the past. It would be better (for Gamba) if he played for them last half of Season 2011 instead of being on loan with Bayern where he was testing grass by bit.(well every experience is worth something so perhaps for Usami that was even better)but Gamba didnt gain anything.

In the end no matter how they look at it. I can still look at it from my point of view and say. Hey Gamba be careful and think about what you are doing. Sell him or play him.

I just remembered a case from Barcelona. They loan out Keirson and he goes to clubs left and right and in the end practically leaves for free. He was bought from Brazil for a substantial fee. That was bad for the club wasnt that good for Keirson as well.
I want what is best for Usami, but I dont want Gamba to get the short end of a stick. Or god forbid gets relegated and I am not even fond of them in J-League.



So please don't jump on me when I share my point of view, I try to understand yours and if anything I would like an honest talk about why Gamba is doing things as they are.

 

If I would have to choose I would choose Usami as well. But imo there is a way both parties would gain.
Cerezo will gain from Kiyotake, Kashiwa will gain from Sakai and Gamba could gain from Usami,

An example where Cerezo got the short end of the stick was Shinji Kagawa.

 

I'm wondering if Liverpool's interest for Usami has to do with the nomination of Jen Chang at the club, having talk with him about the player I know he likes him a lot.

 

Tonight's Bayern vs Holland NT might be the last time to see Usami in a Bayern jersey.

 

hmm so maybe no Usami against Turkey tmr ... but no training with the team yet anyway

 

wait, bm hasnt released him for japan's toulan campaign? what is taking so long.

 

Usami to Hoffenheim is official !!!

http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/...he-plus-kaufoption_hoffenheim-holt-usami.html

 

That's great news, I can't wait to see him next season.