2011-12 Attendance Analysis

Discussion in 'CONCACAF Champions Cup' started by ArsenalMetro, Jul 25, 2011.

  1. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Morelia - 16,000
    Colorado - 9,760
    Comunicaciones - 3,552
    UNAM - 3,382
    Real Espana - 3,358
    Dallas - 3,001
    Motagua - 1,928
    Herediano - 514

    After Group Stage, Matchday 3:

    Code:
    Year      Average Median  <5k     >10k
    2008-09   5,444   5,500   47.4%   13.2%
    2009-10   5,540   4,156   52.5%   10.0%
    2010-11   6,393   4,850   50.0%   22.5%
    2011-12   5,634   4,982   50.0%   12.5%
    
    Historical Totals:

    Code:
    Year      Average Median  <5k     >10k
    2008-09   7,117   6,303   44.7%   23.7%
    2009-10   6,806   5,461   46.2%   16.7%
    2010-11   8,446   5,525   43.6%   35.9%
    
    Average: 2 of 4
    Median: 2 of 4
    <5k%: 2.5 of 4
    >10k%: 3 of 4

    AAQ: 2.375

    Average by federation:

    United States - 8,703
    Mexico - 7,328
    Costa Rica - 5,952
    Honduras - 5,554
    Canada - 4,871
    Nicaragua - 4,500
    El Salvador - 4,073
    Guatemala - 1,926
    Panama - 1,409
    Puerto Rico - 1,125
    CFU - 863
    Guyana - 600

    Average by club:

    Seattle - 15,625
    Olimpia - 10,644
    Monterrey - 10,234
    Los Angeles - 9,026
    Morelia - 8,834
    Alianza - 7,301
    Alajuelense - 7,000
    Colorado - 6,963
    Santos - 6,500
    Herediano - 5,603
    Toronto - 4,871
    Real Espana - 4,600
    Real Esteli - 4,500
    Motagua - 3,964
    UNAM - 3,691
    Dallas - 3,201
    Isidro Metapan - 2,459
    Comunicaciones - 2,139
    Tauro - 1,763
    Municipal - 1,500
    Puerto Rico - 1,125
    San Francisco - 700
    Alpha United - 600

    Overall attendance: 225,347
     
  2. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    By the way Tauro attendance for match day 1 is finally up.

    1,905
     
  3. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Thanks for that. I just updated the numbers to account for the new information. It dropped the median from 5,463 to 4,982. There's a weird gap in the attendance figures right in the middle, with no attendances between 5,463 and 4,500.
     
  4. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was surprised that the median was still that high. My bet is that it will jump back up after next week's games.
     
  5. JYDA

    JYDA Member

    Sep 10, 2003
    Alajuelense gets a packed house last night. Nice to see the group stage is important to their fans. Couldn't say the same for Saprissa in past years.
     
  6. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  7. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Beckham bump?;)
     
  8. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Alajuelense - 13,377
    Monterrey - 10,578
    Seattle - 10,163
    Toronto - 10,132
    Santos - 5,500
    Dallas - 4,985
    Colorado - 4,512
    Motagua - 1,752

    After Group Stage, Matchday 4:

    Code:
    Year      Average Median  <5k     >10k
    2008-09   5,429   4,963   50.0%   13.0%
    2009-10   5,565   5,140   47.9%    8.3%
    2010-11   6,208   4,677   52.1%   20.8%
    2011-12   5,966   5,482   47.9%   18.8%
    
    Historical Totals:

    Code:
    Year      Average Median  <5k     >10k
    2008-09   7,117   6,303   44.7%   23.7%
    2009-10   6,806   5,461   46.2%   16.7%
    2010-11   8,446   5,525   43.6%   35.9%
    
    Average: 2 of 4
    Median: 1 of 4
    <5k%: 1.5 of 4
    >10k%: 2 of 4

    AAQ: 1.625, much improved from last week's 2.375.

    Average by federation:

    United States - 8,117
    Mexico - 7,457
    Costa Rica - 7,437
    Canada - 6,624
    Honduras - 4,921
    Nicaragua - 4,500
    El Salvador - 4,073
    Guatemala - 1,926
    Panama - 1,409
    Puerto Rico - 1,125
    CFU - 863
    Guyana - 600

    Average by club:

    Seattle - 13,804
    Olimpia - 10,644
    Monterrey - 10,406
    Alajuelense - 10,189
    Los Angeles - 9,026
    Morelia - 8,834
    Alianza - 7,301
    Toronto - 6,624
    Santos - 6,167
    Colorado - 6,146
    Herediano - 5,603
    Real Espana - 4,600
    Real Esteli - 4,500
    Dallas - 3,795
    UNAM - 3,691
    Motagua - 3,227
    Isidro Metapan - 2,459
    Comunicaciones - 2,139
    Tauro - 1,763
    Municipal - 1,500
    Puerto Rico - 1,125
    San Francisco - 700
    Alpha United - 600

    Overall attendance: 286,346

    Home matches this week for Toronto, Comunicaciones, Monterrey, Real Espana, Tauro, Los Angeles, Metapan, and Alajuelense. I'd expect 10k+ from three, 5k-10k from two, and below 5k from three.
     
  9. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    9,115 in Toronto according to MLSSoccer. I really expected 10k+ for that. Disappointing.
     
  10. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A little surprising. It did look a little sparse.

    4500 for Communicaciones. Sounded like more;) Well-placed mikes, I guess. Impressive, for the downpour they had most of the game.

    12445 for Monterrey.
     
  11. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Naucalpan Estado de Mex
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    looked like more in Monterrey
     
  12. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    316 for Tauro. Can we just move Panama to the CFU please?
     
  13. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow, I did not see the game, is that right, shit WTF?

    1,920 in Metapan (this can't be right I saw the game the place looked almost sold out on the TV side and behind one of the goals it was sold out). But it is what Concacaf says so it is official.

    Plus I saw at least 5 people watching from the house next door to the stadium :D

    7,500 in LA.

    6,296 for Real España.
     
  14. SecludedMonkey

    SecludedMonkey New Member

    Mar 1, 2011
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And I thought soccer was becoming more popular in Panama.
     
  15. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Monterrey - 12,445
    Toronto - 9,115
    Alajuelense - 9,099
    Los Angeles - 7,500
    Real Espana - 6,296
    Comunicaciones - 4,500
    Isidro Metapan - 1,920
    Tauro - 316

    After Group Stage, Matchday 5

    Code:
    Year      Average Median  <5k     >10k
    2008-09   5,388   4,596   51.9%   13.0%
    2009-10   5,304   4,156   51.8%    8.9%
    2010-11   6,118   4,677   51.8%   21.4%
    2011-12   6,027   5,500   46.4%   17.9%
    
    Historical Totals:

    Code:
    Year      Average Median  <5k     >10k
    2008-09   7,117   6,303   44.7%   23.7%
    2009-10   6,806   5,461   46.2%   16.7%
    2010-11   8,446   5,525   43.6%   35.9%
    
    Average: 2 of 4
    Median: 1 of 4
    <5k%: 1 of 4
    >10k%: 2 of 4

    AAQ: 1.5, improved from last week's 1.625.

    Average by federation:

    United States - 8,066
    Mexico - 7,873
    Costa Rica - 7,714
    Canada - 7,247
    Honduras - 5,117
    Nicaragua - 4,500
    El Salvador - 3,535
    Guatemala - 2,570
    Panama - 1,136
    Puerto Rico - 1,125
    CFU - 863
    Guyana - 600

    Average by club:

    Seattle - 13,804
    Monterrey - 11,086
    Olimpia - 10,644
    Alajuelense - 9,825
    Morelia - 8,834
    Los Angeles - 8,517
    Alianza - 7,301
    Toronto - 7,247
    Santos - 6,167
    Colorado - 6,146
    Herediano - 5,603
    Real Espana - 5,165
    Real Esteli - 4,500
    Dallas - 3,795
    UNAM - 3,691
    Motagua - 3,227
    Comunicaciones - 2,926
    Isidro Metapan - 2,279
    Municipal - 1,500
    Tauro - 1,281
    Puerto Rico - 1,125
    San Francisco - 700
    Alpha United - 600

    Overall attendance: 337,537
     
  16. vichuck

    vichuck Member

    Jul 25, 2008
    New Braunfels
    Club:
    Blackburn Rovers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Move Mexico.
     
  17. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Looking around my city, I think it's already happening.;)
     
  18. vichuck

    vichuck Member

    Jul 25, 2008
    New Braunfels
    Club:
    Blackburn Rovers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Payback is a bitch, huh?
     
  19. devioustrevor

    devioustrevor Member

    Jun 17, 2007
    Napanee, Ontario
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    These numbers will probably skew drastically in March. I've heard that if Toronto makes the Quarter-Finals (which it did after beating FC Dallas 3-0 last night) they will play their leg in March in the Rogers Centre and try and break Montreal's Canadian attendance record when they hosted Santos Laguna at the Olympic Stadium.
     
  20. nfitz

    nfitz Member

    Aug 20, 2007
    Toronto
    Toronto will likely play in Rogers Centre, but the motivation is the amount of $ that the damage that a late-March game cost in BMO Field this year. I doubt you could fit over 55,000 into Rogers without some serious alterations ... and Toronto is not like the Montreal market, where the half city was aware of the game. You only have to look at how deep TFC coverage was in the Sports section of today's papers to see how low profile the sport has in Toronto compared to Montreal (2-inches of CP text on page S7 of the Globe, and a bit better in the start with a full CP article on page S6 with a headline pointing to it on S1 ... however both are dwarfed by NFL and MLB coverage, despite no games being played yesterday).

    Shame it's not in the season ticket package ... that might have got 30,000 there.

    I'm guessing only low 20s ... I'm happy to be proven wrong though. I'm sure we'll do far better than the less than 5,000 that Columbus has gotten the 2 times they got this far, and even with low 20s, that's more than a US team has ever drawn in the quarters.
     
  21. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But this year Seattle made the next round.

    Also I am sure it will depend on the rival.

    Toronto can still finish first if Tauro wins correct? meaning maybe play another MLS team or a central American team.
     
  22. nfitz

    nfitz Member

    Aug 20, 2007
    Toronto
    Toronto could finish first if Tauro wins. Toronto might even draw Seattle for the quarters. But even finishing first, Toronto could draw the Mexican team Morelia, who have finished second; it's not impossible, but unlikely, that Santos Laguna could finish second as well.

    Seattle will probably outdraw Toronto - I've seen about 18,000 there in QWest for a March pre-season friendly; though I'm surprised they only drew 10,000 for two of the Champions League group games.
     
  23. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Rogers Centre holds 54,000 for American football, so I would expect a similar capacity if this comes to pass.
     
  24. nfitz

    nfitz Member

    Aug 20, 2007
    Toronto
    Well, they say that, but I don't think they've ever drawn more than 52,000 in the last decade. The Canadian football field size is a bit bigger than American, and the capacity for those games is a bit over 52,000 these days. I'm not sure how they got bigger crowds in the early years of the stadium.

    Presumably they could squeeze in a bit more for soccer with temporary seating, but I don't think they are going to be able to physically beat the 55,571 in Montreal.
     
  25. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Seattle - 15,866
    Morelia - 15,000

    No official number for Dallas yet.
     

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