2010 MLS Attendance Analysis: Week 7

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by Andy_B, May 4, 2010.

  1. Andy_B

    Andy_B Member+

    Feb 2, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Code:
    % of season completed				
    18.8%				
    Year	Average	Median	%<10K	%>20k
    1996	24341	23073	13.3%	60.0%
    1997	16787	14780	26.7%	26.7%
    1998	15525	13037	11.1%	22.2%
    1999	14140	13673	33.3%	16.7%
    2000	13211	12645	30.6%	13.9%
    2001	14846	14504	17.2%	10.3%
    2002	16609	13779	11.5%	19.2%
    2003	13984	13240	32.1%	17.9%
    2004	15609	13614	28.6%	32.1%
    2005	14614	12499	25.0%	16.7%
    2006	16522	16280	16.7%	25.0%
    2007	14773	13935	13.9%	16.7%
    2008	15579	15271	15.4%	30.8%
    2009	14678	13439	16.7%	14.3%
    2010	16820	14389	13.3%	24.4%
    				
    Final Numbers				
    Year	Average	Median	%<10K	%>20k
    1996	17406	15093	21.9%	26.3%
    1997	14619	12733	25.0%	16.3%
    1998	14312	11871	26.6%	16.1%
    1999	14282	12973	32.3%	15.1%
    2000	13756	12690	34.4%	12.5%
    2001	14962	13431	26.6%	17.7%
    2002	15821	14108	17.1%	18.6%
    2003	14898	13641	23.3%	18.0%
    2004	15559	13285	24.7%	25.3%
    2005	15108	12619	27.1%	17.7%
    2006	15504	14175	18.8%	18.8%
    2007	16770	15353	8.2%	29.7%
    2008	16459	15188	11.0%	24.8%
    2009	16037	14686	14.7%	20.9%
    
     
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  2. Andy_B

    Andy_B Member+

    Feb 2, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Code:
    AAQ after 18.8% complete
    				
    Year	Average	Median	<10k	>20k	AAQ
    1996	1	1	3	1	1.50
    1997	3	4	11	4	5.50
    1998	8	13	1	7	7.25
    1999	13	9	15	10	11.75
    2000	15	14	13	14	14.00
    2001	9	5	9	15	9.50
    2002	4	8	2	8	5.50
    2003	14	12	14	9	12.25
    2004	6	10	12	2	7.50
    2005	12	15	10	10	11.75
    2006	5	2	7	5	4.75
    2007	10	7	5	10	8.00
    2008	7	3	6	3	4.75
    2009	11	11	7	13	10.50
    2010	2	6	3	6	4.25
    
     
  3. Andy_B

    Andy_B Member+

    Feb 2, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    AAQ is now the 2nd best ever after 18.8% of the games played only trailing the nearly unbeatable 1996 at this point of the season complete.

    Looking at how ugly the conversations have been this year about how "bad" attendance has been, were people trying to kill themselves last year at this time? Now that was ugly :)
     
  4. Andy_B

    Andy_B Member+

    Feb 2, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I can't figure out a clean way to copy this in, but if you want to see club by club attendance numbers, go here and scroll down

    http://www.mlssoccer.com/stats
     
  5. BLG

    BLG Member

    May 13, 2000
    Moses Lake, WA
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is there a place on the new MLS site where I can easily find attendance for individual games?. The old site had it all on one page. Now it looks like I must pull up each individual game recap.
     
  6. Kingston

    Kingston Member+

    Oct 6, 2005
    I think we are seeing those conversations this year for two reasons:

    First, an increasing number of teams are routinely selling out. That is building an expectation (fair or not) that all teams should be doing this.

    Second, a couple of teams are doing very badly. When contrasted with the teams that are doing well, the bad outliers really stand out - more so than they did in the past. (Although bad teams will be even more glaringly obvious in the future as Vancouver, Portland, and Montreal swell the ranks of the sell out teams.)
     
  7. scheck

    scheck Member

    Mar 13, 2007
    Denver
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's exactly what it's all about. Especially when you're talking to newer fans of the league.
     
  8. mattmanp

    mattmanp Member

    Jul 2, 2007
    Austin, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's been a good year so far. Better than I had expected. Yes it will drop a little once PPL park opens, but throw in a couple doubleheaders and some DP inspired crowds if we score some names like expected (i.e. Henry will draw crowds) then we are good shape to potentially finish in the top 4.
     
  9. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fair warning to the attendance hounds, I don't expect much from tomorrow night's game. Its the Rapids only home game in a 6 week span, on a Wednesday night, on Cinco de Mayo. I'll be shocked if they announce a 5 digit number.
     
  10. mattmanp

    mattmanp Member

    Jul 2, 2007
    Austin, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Houston seems to be embracing the latino market in their area and holding Cinco de Mayo themed festivities at the game. That and being the local rival should give them decent attendance for a midweek game. Not optimistic about the other 3 games tomorrow. How much longer will people turn out to watch this DC team?
     
  11. El Naranja

    El Naranja Member+

    Sep 5, 2006
    Alief
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    MajorLeagueSoccerSoccer has stats?

    Since when?
     
  12. cleazer

    cleazer Member+

    May 6, 2003
    Toledo, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Impressive. Last weekend had a few underwhelming crowds, and the AAQ still went up to second place.
    A lot of newer fans seem to be under the impression that other teams should be able to wipe out 15 years of history and just start fresh like they are doing. It simply doesn't work that way. History is impossible to erase.
     
  13. Thats odd. It seems to me in a city like Denver with such a big Mexican population cinco de mayo would be a perfect opportuinty to add some festivities to the night to sell the game. But oh I forgot, that takes effort from the front office. What was I thinking?
     
  14. Eric B

    Eric B Member

    Feb 21, 2000
    the LBC
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Do Mexican immigrants celebrate CdM much though? I thought that was more for gabachos and pochos...
     
  15. bgix

    bgix Bad Penny

    Jun 29, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  16. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The economy is struggling (or not).
    Seattle invented soccer (or not.)
    LA is a big concern (or not.)
    Dallas should be moved downtown (or not.)
    United management is intentionally tanking DC attendance to justify moving (or not.)
    Stadiums need to be downtown (or not.)
    MLS needs to stop appealing to the SUV crowd (or not.)
    The league should take Kraft's franchise from him (or not.)

    Now y'all can proceed.
     
  17. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The problem is that most of the CdM celebrations are well established, so the Rapids have a hard time drawing people away from them.

    Plus yeah, effort from the front office. Honestly I'm not even sure we're doing anything for CdM at the game tomorrow. The advertising for this game compared to the prior two seems to be less, so the Rapids may just be writing it off as a lost cause and focusing on the next one. Unfortunately that's Memorial Day weekend.

    The Rapids have one Saturday evening non-holiday weekend home game before the middle of July this season, and only 6 total. Don't expect the Rapids numbers to go up for a while.
     
  18. trip76

    trip76 Member

    Jul 17, 2007
    North East USA
    all of that is background noise. the rapids attendance isn't going up any appreciable amount until ownership starts acting like it gives a damn.
     
  19. Fiosfan

    Fiosfan Red Card

    Mar 21, 2010
    Nevada
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The league need to step in and give these bad owners a few yellow and red cards and set them the Seattle Sounders path or NY for that matter.
    DCU need a winning team, their fans are too smart for the BS the new owner giving them. Curt is alright, but come on already.
     
  20. jayd8888

    jayd8888 Member+

    Aug 22, 2006
    Denver CO
    You may be right...........

    This (taken from the Rapids new site) seem very scaled back from years past.

    Maybe they went all out in the past and are now realizing that its not worth the effort, but I don't think people will be drawn to this by great numbers.
     
  21. DoctorD

    DoctorD Member+

    Sep 29, 2002
    MidAtlantic
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'll repeat the comment I made on someone's blog. Just who exactly is supposed to lose games in this league? Seattle, because their fans will come out no matter what?
     
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  22. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Kansas City and San Jose because they are capped at 10k. However, in a year and a half KC has to start winning because they'll have their new stadium built and they need to start winning in order to get new fans. San Jose has to start winning in two years since their stadium is supposedly coming out then, etc, etc.

    How about NER? Kraft doesn't care if NER pulls in crap in attendance as he only cares about the Patriots and the mall and even if NER is only bringing in a few thousand, that's still a few more thousand people that are in the proximity of Patriot Place than would be otherwise.

    As for Seattle... I don't think you want the Sounders to start losing on a regular basis. The fans are already getting leery about the Sounders 2-2-2 start and some are already putting on the life preservers in preparation to jump of the boat.
     
  23. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But..but..but..for the last two years all the Seattle posters have been telling us that they're the best fans iin MLS and they are the new standard. Are you saying that they were actually just fairweather fans like many of us suggested? That can't be right, Seattle invented fandom!
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  24. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No, no, EVERYONE gets a trophy!
     
  25. Ajas

    Ajas Member

    Sep 23, 2009
    3eattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    The away team.
     

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