Code: After 8.8% of games completed Year Average Median %<10K %>20k 1996 29705 26445 7.1% 85.7% 1997 16480 12774 28.6% 28.6% 1998 16678 14653 5.9% 23.5% 1999 13669 13648 35.3% 17.6% 2000 13757 12891 29.4% 17.6% 2001 16615 17038 7.1% 14.3% 2002 20774 15124 0.0% 33.3% 2003 16248 17032 23.1% 30.8% 2004 18286 20229 23.1% 53.8% 2005 14139 12657 23.5% 11.8% 2006 18607 19107 11.8% 41.2% 2007 15481 15353 5.9% 11.8% 2008 15033 16336 27.8% 27.8% 2009 15178 13640 10.0% 15.0% 2010 18452 18197 4.8% 33.3% Final Numbers Year Average Median %<10K %>20k 1996 17406 15093 21.9% 26.3% 1997 14619 12733 25.0% 16.3% 1998 14312 11871 26.6% 16.1% 1999 14282 12973 32.3% 15.1% 2000 13756 12690 34.4% 12.5% 2001 14962 13431 26.6% 17.7% 2002 15821 14108 17.1% 18.6% 2003 14898 13641 23.3% 18.0% 2004 15559 13285 24.7% 25.3% 2005 15108 12619 27.1% 17.7% 2006 15504 14175 18.8% 18.8% 2007 16770 15353 8.2% 29.7% 2008 16459 15188 11.0% 24.8% 2009 16037 14686 14.7% 20.9%
AAQ after 8.8% of games completed Average: 4th out of 15 Median: 4th out of 15 <10K: 2nd out of 15 >20K: tied for 4th out of 15 AAQ: = (4+4+2+4.5)/4 = 3.625
Note, these figures are using the 10,556 number for the Dallas game this weekend until we hear something more formal.
Off to a really good start and I think we're going to stay pretty high for the rest of the year. I think it might give 2007 a run for the money.
It's a good start but remember that the Philly numbers will have to come down once they move into PPL. Still great numbers from Salt Lake and Chicago and over 10k in the Big D seems like a victory. For a weekend when New York, Toronto and Seattle all played away games this seems huge.
Goff lists 8,422 for Dallas but doesn't give source: http://voices.washingtonpost.com/soccerinsider/2010/04/mls_and_wps_attendance_watch.html
Actually, he's updated it to: Not sure what that means. Was there a follow-up game of some kind that Dallas included in their number?
from what I can tell those are the two numbers that have been floated in two different newspapers. Since MLS has not yet updated their site (last time I checked anyway), I went with the 10k number which was the first number reported.
12.8k was easily the highest stand-alone home opening attendance for the Revs in quite some time. It seemed like there were more at the stadium live, but watching it on tv made it clear the figure was accurate. That's a good sign, but they have five more home matches before the month of June, a time when they have drawn very poorly in the past. During the middle of last decade, figures were bolstered by large group sales in the fall, but those have petered off with schools and youth leagues not having as much money in their budgets for them. Couple those issues with the potential for $3.50 gas this year and you could see numbers as bad as last season when people thought the world was imploding.
I don't know if he was being sarcastic. But that is 60% over the second game of last year. And 2k more than the opening game against Houston. Little steps people. I think they got a substantial walk up crowd. The side I normally associate with the season ticket holders (the side behind the benches) looked really empty. But I was sitting on the opposite side, with the thousands of 10 year old girls, and it looked much fuller. I believe the club were offering seats on that side for $15, and it really worked. Whoever decided on that promotion should get a raise. And the atmosphere over there was great, the people were really getting into the match. Especially towards the end when it was getting heated. And the Inferno was in really good voice. I don't think their chanting stopped at any point the entire match. Gotta start somewhere, and if I was a casual fan at Saturday's game.......it would have convinced me to come back for more. But I'm a curmudgeon. I can't stand the 10 year old girls. I know I'm not supposed to complain about butts in seats. If we could get thousands of prison groups out there it would be be fine. But the group of 10 year old girls behind me kept chanting "Let's go FC" for an entire half. I felt like turning around and shouting "You little b***hes understand that doesn't mean anything right?!!! How do your parents let this s**t go down." Let's put it this way, though. When I lived in Syracuse, they'd actually play the theme to SpongeBob Squarepants DURING the Salty Dogs' games. I mean, while play was going on. In each half. And all the 10 year old girls would join in singing along. Jesus. Get me a shotgun. Thank god the Syracuse USL team was put out of it's misery.
While I understand many aspects of your curmudgeonliness, the Salty Dawgs had attendances that every USSF D2 team except Montreal and Portland would give their eye teeth for. I think I would even put up with a group or two of 10 year old girls. But maybe I'm misinformed about the Salty Dawgs.
The main reason for up swing is the new field- turf that covers the field. But seriously though that's a good sign and the team is doing well.
To me, the big story in this coming week with be Red Bulls attendance. Does the stadium effect have legs? Let's hope so.
I've seen that number kicked around, but I wonder how reliable it is. The number sounds creditable, but where is that info coming from?
I probably obtained that info in the same circle as you. But I don't consider that number far-fetched, considering the recent ST numbers thrown out there at about 8K. Couple that with this being only the second league match at the new stadium, an additional 7K, IMO, wouldn't sound that crazy. Will the wet weather affect walkup numbers?
I wouldn't call that disappointing. Let's see what they average out in the next 4-5 games (not including the opening game). Disappointing would be < ~12K. That would signal a failed experiment. Anything > ~20K means a new leaf has been turned. A new chapter is about to begin. Anything between ~15K - ~20K: Not bad at all. It wil most likely improve with another DP signing and more wins. Anything between ~ 12K - ~15K: Back to square one.
As for "~ 12k," I would substitute "unmitigated disaster on a scale unlikely even in these hard times" for "Disappointing." As for "~ 12k - 15k:," I would substitute "truly suckful, but at least we control revenue." Happily, both those figures, in my humble estimation, are unlikely, at least for now. But I am a mere keen observer from afar. There are keen observers that are more local who wish to opine?
If nothing else, there is a lot more optimism around than there was last year. And with Portland and Vancouver on the horizon, there's additional reason to be optimistic.
Comparison of average above/below median: 1996: -13.28852119958635% 1997: -12.901019221560983% 1998: -17.055617663 1999: -9.16538299957989% 2000: -7.7493457400407095% 2001: -10.2325892260393% 2002: -10.827381328613868% 2003: -8.437374144180428% 2004: --14.615335175782503% 2005: -16.47471538257877% 2006: -8.571981424148607% 2007: -8.449612403100776% 2008: -7.72221884683152% 2009: -8.4242688782 So far in 2010, we have a rise in average that, despite the problems in Dallas and limitations in KC and SJ, do not result in huge disparities between average and median. 'Twould indicate core is increasing with base.