2009 MLS Attendance Analysis: Week 29

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by Andy_B, Sep 30, 2009.

  1. Andy_B

    Andy_B Member+

    Feb 2, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Note, these numbers are skewed from MLSnet as MLSnet is using an attendance of 0 for the latest Dallas game where I am using an attendance of 8623 found in a press release by a Big Soccer member.


    Code:
    % of season completed				
    88%				
    Year	Average	Median	%<10K	%>20k
    1996	17711	15471	21.4%	27.9%
    1997	14583	12733	24.3%	15.7%
    1998	14081	11500	27.2%	14.8%
    1999	14497	13114	32.0%	15.4%
    2000	13475	12399	36.1%	11.2%
    2001	14734	13141	26.6%	16.5%
    2002	15460	13521	18.7%	16.3%
    2003	14731	13618	24.2%	18.2%
    2004	15085	13055	28.0%	22.7%
    2005	14762	12305	29.6%	15.4%
    2006	15045	13016	21.3%	16.6%
    2007	16367	14818	8.8%	25.7%
    2008	16463	15118	11.4%	25.4%
    2009	15656	14479	16.2%	19.2%
    				
    				
    Final Numbers				
    Year	Average	Median	%<10K	%>20k
    1996	17406	15093	21.9%	26.3%
    1997	14619	12733	25.0%	16.3%
    1998	14312	11871	26.6%	16.1%
    1999	14282	12973	32.3%	15.1%
    2000	13756	12690	34.4%	12.5%
    2001	14962	13431	26.6%	17.7%
    2002	15821	14108	17.1%	18.6%
    2003	14898	13641	23.3%	18.0%
    2004	15559	13285	24.7%	25.3%
    2005	15108	12619	27.1%	17.7%
    2006	15504	14175	18.8%	18.8%
    2007	16770	15353	8.2%	29.7%
    2008	16459	15188	11.0%	24.8%
    
     
  2. Andy_B

    Andy_B Member+

    Feb 2, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    AAQ:

    Average: 4th out of 14
    Median: 4th out of 14
    <10k: 3rd out of 14
    >=20k: 5th out of 14

    AAQ = (4+4+3+5)/4 = 4
     
  3. pc4th

    pc4th New Member

    Jun 14, 2003
    North Poll
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Code:
    TEAM ATTENDANCE REPORT
                                  HOME GAMES                  ROAD GAMES
                           DATES      TOTAL  AVERAGE   DATES      TOTAL  AVERAGE
    Chicago Fire              14    202,794   14,485      13    226,144   17,396
    Chivas USA                12    186,613   15,551      13    206,747   15,904
    Colorado Rapids           14    168,428   12,031      13    202,990   15,615
    Columbus Crew             13    185,530   14,272      13    242,303   18,639
    FC Dallas                 13    111,734    8,595      13    185,303   14,254
    D.C. United               13    200,873   15,452      14    206,467   14,748
    Houston Dynamo            13    209,388   16,107      14    197,872   14,134
    Kansas City Wizards       13    130,282   10,022      13    195,994   15,076
    Los Angeles Galaxy        13    257,561   19,812      14    268,974   19,212
    New England Revolution    13    174,616   13,432      12    184,246   15,354
    New York Red Bulls        14    166,054   11,861      13    219,124   16,856
    Real Salt Lake            13    210,706   16,208      14    188,698   13,478
    San Jose Earthquakes      13    192,169   14,782      12    159,538   13,295
    Seattle Sounders FC       14    430,347   30,739      13    195,504   15,039
    Toronto FC                13    264,212   20,324      14    211,403   15,100
    MLS Totals               198  3,091,307   15,613     198  3,091,307   15,613
     
  4. chad

    chad Member+

    Jun 24, 1999
    Manhattan Beach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Andy, if you already have them, do you mind posting the final AAQs/13 for the previous years?
     
  5. Andy_B

    Andy_B Member+

    Feb 2, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hi Chad,

    I don't have them.

    In thinking about it, I think posting them will lead to some issues as people will automatically try and compare this years AAQ to all others but it is not an apples to apples comparison. You can't compare an AAQs based on 13 years with one based on 14 years.

    When we get to 100% of games played, I will post AAQ numbers for all 14 seasons (which will give an apples to apples comparison).
     
  6. frodo0666

    frodo0666 Member

    Jul 27, 2007
    Greensboro, NC
    Club:
    Carolina Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Rank Rank Rank Rank
    Year Average Median %<10K %>20k AAQ
    1996 1 1 6 1 2.25
    1997 11 11 8 10 10.00
    1998 13 14 10 13 12.50
    1999 12 8 13 11 11.00
    2000 14 12 14 14 13.50
    2001 9 7 9 8 8.25
    2002 5 6 4 9 6.00
    2003 10 5 7 6 7.00
    2004 6 9 11 4 7.50
    2005 8 13 12 11 11.00
    2006 7 10 5 7 7.25
    2007 3 3 1 2 2.25
    2008 2 2 2 3 2.25
    2009 4 4 3 5 4.00


    Using Andy's numbers from above, this would be the current AAQs. The final AAQ for each year would change slightly if the average for the 2009 season were to dip below the 2004 and 2006 seasons.
     
  7. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Perhaps FCD will have more than it's 9k average today with the Mexico - Colombia doubleheader back at the Cotton Bowl.
     
  8. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Code:
    2007	16367	14818	8.8%	25.7%
    2008	16463	15118	11.4%	25.4%
    2009	15656	14479	16.2%	19.2%
    For the longest time, the numbers for this year were eerily similar to 2007.

    It appears that those days are over. :D But it's a good reminder of just how solid the numbers were in 2007. This season has an AAQ of 4, but it is pretty poor compared to 2007.
     
  9. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    My way to look at these numbers is actually to compare this year with 2006, and the pre-Beckham bump. Looking at that, we have a better ratio of >20k matches to <10k matches, a higher average, and a significantly higher median. Given the economy this year, I'd say it's been hugely positive for MLS to get these numbers. With Philly next year, an expanded BMO, a (likely expanded) Qwest, and Red Bull Arena, I definitely think we'll see these numbers go up a lot in 2010.
     
  10. KTown222

    KTown222 Member

    Sep 29, 2007
    The home total of FCD is correct, but it is for 1w games, not 13. There is a mistake on MLSNET's stats page. If 8623 is the attendance of the last game, add it to 111734. The average attendance over 13 games is already above 9000.
     
  11. meherdmann

    meherdmann New Member

    Jul 12, 2006
    Announced attendance for Revs-Dallas was 51,012
     
  12. Golazo

    Golazo Member+

    Apr 15, 1999
    Decatur, GA USA
    FC Dallas, come for the "soccer," stay for the lesson in statistics.
     
  13. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The World Cup is a bit of a wild card. The break MLS is taking will mean more games on sub-optimal days. OTOH, the league might be able to bring in a couple of Beckham-Ljungberg types, famous Euros who aren't going to figure for international play anymore.

    One thing...Philly's capacity is under 20K, isn't it? If my memory is correct, then Philly is going to hurt the >20K stats. Well, unless traveling support to NY and DC pops those matches over 20K.
     
  14. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    When I was referring to Philly, I meant the average and median, though if their away support is as good as I expect, you're right, it could push matches in DC and NY over 20,000.
     
  15. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not really. The number of weekend dates missed then will be no greater than the number of weekends teams are forced to sit this year due to the odd number of teams. It just concentrates them in June rather than spreading them out one team per weekend.
     
  16. G Enriquez

    G Enriquez Member+

    Apr 1, 2002
    Tampa
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thank God for the doubleheader. This should help a little
    bit with their final attendance average.
     
  17. milicz

    milicz Member+

    Dec 2, 2001
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Poland
    So Dallas is now averaging 12,241, which is still pretty awful.
     
  18. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But better than it was!
     
  19. broder

    broder Member

    Jan 18, 2007
    Mission
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was looking forward to the Wizards not having the lowest attendance this year, and we were on our way to accomplishing that, as Dallas avg. attendance was lowers than ours. But then they announced this game at the Cotton Bowl. Oh well, there's always next year.
     
  20. Toronto Red

    Toronto Red Member

    Jan 8, 2006
    Toronto
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    Don't feel so bad, I reckon KC has got a lot more respect these days but FCD is in the toilet. :)

    PS(posted to make the KC guy feel better and not to piss of FCD fans)
     
  21. OlDffrNewFan

    OlDffrNewFan Member

    Aug 29, 2006
    IN
    Also, if you look at KC's attendance as a percentage of available seats, you guys are doing well.
     
  22. peteo

    peteo Member

    Jun 19, 2002
    Daly Citay, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    21,679 @ la
     
  23. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I doubt you can piss off the FCD fans any more than they already are. And their anger is quite squarely pointed at their front office, and not any other fans.

    But I'm just one of them, and probably shouldn't speak for the rest.
     
  24. Toronto Red

    Toronto Red Member

    Jan 8, 2006
    Toronto
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    I definitely feel for you guys down there, and the Colorado supporters as well.:mad:
     
  25. peteo

    peteo Member

    Jun 19, 2002
    Daly Citay, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    24,175 @ DC vs. CUSA
    14,372 @ Columbus vs. Seattle
    16,535 @ Colorado vs. NE
     

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