2005 Wizard Cup thread {R}

Discussion in 'Rugby & Aussie Rules' started by babytiger2001, Feb 14, 2005.

  1. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The footy's back!!

    Well, at least the pre-season is, starting this weekend. :)

    Just like last year, the Wizard Cup is a knock-out style competition, much like the F.A. Cup or the NCAA basketball tournament, pitting all 16 AFL teams in a draw with the strongest surviving at the end of the month-long competition.

    The opening draw is as such:

    Code:
    Week One
    Friday, 18 February	Venue	Time
    6. Collingwood v Richmond	Telstra Dome	7.40pm
    5. Fremantle v West Coast	Subiaco	7.40pm
    
    Saturday, 19 February	Venue	Time
    2. Western Bulldogs v Sydney	Telstra Dome (Double-Header)	2:40pm
    1. Hawthorn v St Kilda	Telstra Dome (Double-Header)	6:10pm
    3. Brisbane v Melbourne	Cazaly Stadium (Cairns)	7:40pm
    
    Sunday, 20 February	Venue	Time
    7. North Melbourne v Geelong	Manuka Oval (Canberra)	2:40pm
    4. Carlton v Essendon	Telstra Dome	5:10pm
    8. Adelaide v Port Adelaide	AAMI Stadium	7:10pm
    Times listed are local times.

    I think there will be some rules variations on the competitions, such as last year. But with the nine-point "super goal", for a goal kicked from 50 metres and beyond, not only will it count for nine points on the scorebaord, but the teams and the AFL will contribute $1,000 (I think) for each one kicked to the tsunami relief benefit.

    With the fixtures above, feel free to make your tips by the start of the weekend... if you dare! :)

    Also, with the nature of the competition being what it is, with 15 total matches, perhaps we should keep this thread going for the entire competition, through to the Grand Final.
     
  2. hiddink_magic

    hiddink_magic New Member

    Feb 27, 2003
    Wendouree
    I am looking forward to the footy.
     
  3. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The pick of the news, from Tuesday's papers and web sources:

    Carlton
    Kouta ready to take on Bombers -- The Herald Sun

    Collingwood
    Magpies confident Buckley will be back -- The Herald Sun

    Buckley's problems likely to recur -- The Age

    Debutant football -- The Age

    Richmond
    Richmond to be an excitement machine -- The Herald Sun

    Western Bulldogs
    Rocket plays it cool -- The Herald Sun On Rodney Eade, the Doggies' new coach, and a return this weekend to his old stomping grounds in Sydney

    St Kilda
    Riewoldt keen to be Hird -- The Herald Sun From the Saints' new captain

    Hamill's unfinished business -- The Age

    Geelong
    Pain of failure drives Scarlett -- The Herald Sun Funny, as I was serving him beers in one marquee at the Geelong Cup, he was telling me the same thing :)

    Kelly comes out hard and fast -- The Herald Sun As the Cats' midfield turns... James Kelly's coming back as Joel Corey might be out for a month

    Cats ready -- The Age

    Adelaide
    No rift with Ayres, says McLeod -- The Herald Sun

    Fremantle
    Is Sandilands the next big thing? -- The Herald Sun

    Hawthorn
    Young Hawks ready to leave nest -- The Herald Sun

    Fall of famers -- The Herald Sun Club legends (and current board room employees) Dermott Brereton and Jason Dunstall have been asked to stay away from the club's practice sessions this season

    North Melbourne
    Laidley hails new Roo generation -- The Herald Sun

    Port Adelaide
    Tredrea keen on Port's prime post -- The Herald Sun

    Veteran 'recruits' boost Port -- The Age

    Sydney
    Schneider lines up for midfield run -- The Herald Sun
     
  4. prk166

    prk166 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 8, 2000
    Med City
    So the teams take this cup seriously?
     
  5. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not all of them. Essendon, I think, is one of the biggest offenders, but they seem to do well come Round 1 of the home-and-away season... I don't think Kevin Sheedy would let them get away with it, otherwise.

    Sheeds, however, seems to be of the belief that his team can accomplish just as much with a Round 1 loss and playing games in country locales (such as Bendigo, Shepparton, Ballarat, and so forth) against other competition the following weeks as they can on a good preseason cup run.

    But the proof was in the pudding last year, as last year's preseason grand finalists, St. Kilda and Geelong, did finish in the top four of the home-and-away season proper. So a good run in the Wizard Cup, and taking the competition seriously, can indeed prepare a team for a good season ahead.
     
  6. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  7. hiddink_magic

    hiddink_magic New Member

    Feb 27, 2003
    Wendouree
    The AFL Record is out and it has got everything you need to know. So those who are living in Australia can go to their local Newsagency and get the record that costs $7
     
  8. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wizard Cup Round 1 provisional squads

    This time around, in some cases, it's a bigger story as to who's out as opposed to who's in.

    As mentioned in the news of the week, Collingwood's Nathan Buckley will miss out with a recurrence of his hamstring problem from last season, and Geelong will hold out Steven King (arguably the best ruckman in the competition), and those are just a couple of the key names.

    The above squads will be cut back again on Friday.

    Some news from Thursday's media sources (as well as a newly-revamped AFL website)...

    Geelong
    Young Cats among those braced for bruises -- The Age

    Talking tough -- Geelong Advertiser

    Making his mark, and simply loving it -- Geelong Advertiser About new Cats assistant coach Andy Lovell

    Melbourne
    Demons name three most likely -- The Age To replace the late Troy Broadbridge, lost in the tsunami

    Wheatley praises Cairns -- afl.com.au

    Brisbane
    We're weaker: Leppitsch -- afl.com.au

    We can beat the Demons: Notting -- afl.com.au

    North Melbourne
    Roos, Cats missing a few -- afl.com.au

    Sydney
    Swans missing big names -- afl.com.au

    Essendon
    Dons close to full strength -- afl.com.au

    St. Kilda
    Newcomers in for Saints -- afl.com.au

    Carlton
    Carey offers forward thinking -- foxsports.news.com.au (via relay from The Australian)
     
  9. hiddink_magic

    hiddink_magic New Member

    Feb 27, 2003
    Wendouree
    I really am looking forward to watching the footy tonight.
     
  10. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As much of an exercise in futility it might be, here are my tips for Round 1 of the Wizard Cup (picks in bold):

    Collingwood v Richmond
    Fremantle v West Coast
    Western Bulldogs v Sydney
    Hawthorn v St Kilda
    Brisbane v Melbourne
    North Melbourne v Geelong
    Carlton v Essendon
    Adelaide v Port Adelaide

    Not that I'm going to run to the nearest TAB SportsBet parlor to any of these. ;)
     
  11. prk166

    prk166 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 8, 2000
    Med City
    Gracias
     
  12. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No worries, always glad to help. :)

    And by that above reasoning, I think I'm being consistent in picking against the Bombers.

    Even if it means tipping Carlton on Sunday. :eek:
     
  13. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For tonight's Collingwood v Richmond match, and for our footy faithful outside of Australian borders...

    There's live audio on the AFL's website as well, from Melbourne's 3AW, and options of a couple of other stations as well.

    Triple M, the best radio callers in footy, start their coverage next week, I think.
     
  14. hiddink_magic

    hiddink_magic New Member

    Feb 27, 2003
    Wendouree
    Collingwood v Richmond = Richmond
    Fremantle v West Coast = Fremantle
    Western Bulldogs v Sydney = Swans
    Hawthorn v St Kilda = Hawks
    Brisbane v Melbourne = Brisbane
    North Melbourne v Geelong = Kangaroos
    Carlton v Essendon = Carlton
    Adelaide v Port Adelaide = Port Adelaide
     
  15. hiddink_magic

    hiddink_magic New Member

    Feb 27, 2003
    Wendouree
    Ripper. Let's hope that it is on ABC Radio.
     
  16. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hope you'll learn your lessons after this weekend, Suz. ;)
     
  17. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Live audio links, Round 1

    These are from the revamped AFL website -- and it took some effort to try and find them, too...
     
  18. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Full time, at Telstra Dome...

    [Result] (highlight to reveal): Collingwood 3.12.16 (115)
    Richmond 5.9.9 (108)[/result]

    (With no TV of these matches as of yet in the U.S., I was debating as to whether or not to have the result tags in, but for safety's sake, I decided to keep them in.)

    And thank god the footy's back! Great game tonight... very exciting stuff, especially in that final term... [result]Anthony Rocca and Josh Fraser leading Collingwood back, after they had trailed by as many as 25 points midway through the third quarter.[/result]

    And even better news, with the eight nine-pointers kicked, that equates to $24,000 that the AFL will be donating (so far) to the tsunami benefit fund.

    Also, quarter-time score at Subiaco Oval in Perth, where the season's first western Derby is taking place within this competition...

    [result]Fremantle 0.3.2 (20)
    West Coast 0.3.1 (19)[/result]

    Very close game, between two rivals in the west...
     
  19. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Post-match report -- afl.com.au

    And a ding-dong affair at Subiaco Oval, where two western rivals are busy trading leads and thrills as well...

    [result]Fremantle 0.6.3 (39)
    West Coast 0.7.2 (44)[/result]

    [result]Mark Seaby kicks a goal from 48 meters after the siren to put the Eagles in front at the main break. Ashley Sampi is the game's leading goal-kicker, with a pair of six-pointers.[/result]

    And speaking of Ashley Sampi, if you're able to view highlights on the AFL's site, don't miss the highlights of this match. Sampi took another "speckie" -- reminiscent of the forever-hanging mark he took for the league's mark of the year against Melbourne last season.

    He didn't stay in the air for as long as he did for that one, nor did he quite show off the type of athleticism as he did then, but man, this one was very, very close.
     
  20. Spartacus

    Spartacus Member

    May 20, 2001
    The NO SOCCER Zone
    And for those of us living outside Australia, it would cost more to post it to the states than it would to buy it, wouldn't it?
     
  21. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Late match last night, final from Subiaco Oval in Perth...

    [result]West Coast 0.12.8 (80)
    Fremantle 0.11.7 (73)[/result]

    Post-match report -- afl.com.au

    Post-match report -- The Age

    Post-match report -- The Herald Sun

    I wanted to get a post-match report from the Perth-based daily The West Australian, but apparently, their site is now a completely pay service.

    So two close games last night, with lots of drama and showmanship... great stuff, to open the competition with.
     
  22. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  23. BhoysFC1995

    BhoysFC1995 New Member

    Nov 30, 1999
    NYC
    babytiger,

    tipping on the wizard cup is like playing darts blindfolded, isn't it? ;)

    btw, now that i am back in the states, let me say, i already miss reading all the reports/articles for all three codes from the various papers.
     
  24. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Now that's one good way of putting it! :)

    About the same as tipping preseason NFL games, too, for that matter...

    But I did go 1-1 last night, and was basically one straight kick away from going either 2-0 or 0-2, depending on your view of either game.

    No worries, that's what you have me here for. :)

    And I'll even sift through the stuff, to spearate what passes for in-depth information from the so-called "journalism" we call "sensationalism" or "info-tainment" in the Aussie press. ;)
     
  25. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

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