2 important Gold Cups?

Discussion in 'Gold Cup' started by Sebsasour, Feb 6, 2013.

  1. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  2. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The timing doesn't work great. Let's say it was used to qualify for Confederations Cup 2017. The the Gold Cups that would qualify for it would be 2013 and 2015, so it may be too late for that. Players could have WCQs, an important Gold Cup, and a Confederations Cup within two months. CONCACAF would also need to decide:

    1. If the same country won both Gold Cups, would they have to play against anybody else to qualify?
    2. Would it be one game or a two leg series? I could see it getting a lot of attention if USA and Mexico played a Confederations Cup qualifier the year after a World Cup when neither country would have WCQs.

    FIFA might want the Confederations Cup qualifier to be determined by the winner of one tournament.
     
  3. drt2k3

    drt2k3 Member

    Jul 1, 2005
    Wilmington, NC
    Club:
    Wilmington H.
    2013 and 2015 winners could play a home and away leg in 2016 if necessary. If the same team wins both cups it would not seem fair to make them play an additional home and away leg. I love the idea of a USA Mexico home and home series with the Confederations Cup on the line
     
  4. Soccerfever

    Soccerfever Member

    Aug 30, 2001
    Laval(Canada)
    Not suprising that it's someone from the USSF who is proposing this idea.The only goal out of this absurd idea is to make the US -Mexico rivalry more meaningfull in order to...make more money/cash in on tickets sales.Completely pathetic...
     
    It's called FOOTBALL repped this.
  5. drt2k3

    drt2k3 Member

    Jul 1, 2005
    Wilmington, NC
    Club:
    Wilmington H.

    to be fair, im sure CONCACAF would get their cut ;P
     
  6. Soccerfever

    Soccerfever Member

    Aug 30, 2001
    Laval(Canada)
    Not hard to believe since money is their first priority...
     
  7. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Winner of the second Gold Cup gets to host the Confederations Gold Cup.

    1. Since only Mexico, USA and Canada have won the cup there is little danger of a CFU or CA winning it

    2. Would make Canada and Mexico try a little harder.

    3. If by some reason a CFU or CA team wins, they Concacaf can bribe them with some Cash and hold the GC in the USA anyways :p
     
  8. Soccerfever

    Soccerfever Member

    Aug 30, 2001
    Laval(Canada)
    I'm sure the fact that the US has almost exclusively hosted this thing on it's own has nothing to do with a Carribean or Central American nation not winning it.:rolleyes:

    If this tourney was rotated just like it's done in pretty much in every other region,you can best believe that both Mexico and the US would not reach the final every friggin time period!
     
  9. drt2k3

    drt2k3 Member

    Jul 1, 2005
    Wilmington, NC
    Club:
    Wilmington H.
    Every other year Gold Cup finances CONCACAF. What other country could attract an attendance of a minimum of 15K a match? Its not fair but life it not fair. Its not as if US has a huge advantage, the final v. Mexico in 2011 was a virtual road game
     
  10. Soccerfever

    Soccerfever Member

    Aug 30, 2001
    Laval(Canada)
    Sorry but it's inacurate!Why?Because,during the group stages,tickets are sold for 2 games so your 15K a match isn't 15K really.And by the way,how about Canada?We hosted the 2007 U-20 World Cup and it was one of the most succesful(could be the most succesful,not sure) youth World Cup to date.Go check the attendance numbers.Why not try the Gold Cup here?Huh?Why not?

    Well,it may not be an advantage when you face Mexico,but anybody else the US faces,the US has the advantage.It's already a good advantage that you are the 2nd ranked side in the region(though a fair advantage,nothing wrong with that),but top it all,you get the homefield advantage year in year out.Before you lost to Panama in the group stage in 2011,the US was undefeated in the group stages at the CONCACRAP Gold Cup.

    About the final against Mexico,well,that's what happens when you have a rigged draw held behind closed doors and venues chosen accordingly to the qualified teams.CONCACAF will always put the final where they know Mexican NT supporters will show up in huge numbers...I guess you can say thank you to the US beloved SUM(Soccer United Marketing)...
     
  11. dinamo_zagreb

    dinamo_zagreb Member+

    Jun 27, 2010
    San Jose, CA / Zagreb, Croatia
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Croatia
  12. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    Because Canada wont bring the figures that the US will. I'm sorry it just wont, I'm sure Canada would do a good job hosting but this tourney is a cash grab and there's not as much cash to be made in Canada. Most of the Gold Cup is Latin American teams, the Latin American population of Canada is 320,000. The Latin American population here is about 35 million. You see the difference there? El Salvador-Cuba will not sell tickets in Toronto like it will in Miami. It is not a question of fairness, it is a question of money
     
  13. drt2k3

    drt2k3 Member

    Jul 1, 2005
    Wilmington, NC
    Club:
    Wilmington H.
    I know how the tickets are sold, but its not inaccurate, its just good marketing and sales by CONCACAF. Again, its not fair and there is a lot of yeah but's, but the truth is every match for the 2011 GOld cup had at least 18,000 tickets sold. No other country could pull that off. I checked the 2007 youth world cup numbers and the 2011 Gold Cup has better attendance numbers. Again, its not fair but its reality.



    The US has 1 vote about where to hold the Gold Cup. Everyone else seems to be happy with making money.
     
  14. Clenbuterol

    Clenbuterol Red Card

    Aug 25, 2011
    Club:
    --other--
    Yup.

    So many people here complain about the US hosting every time but fact is no other country wants the darn thing.

    It is stupid to complain when there is no solid alternative.
     

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