2 Different Scenarios from this Week

Discussion in 'Referee' started by Cactus837, Jan 22, 2018.

  1. kayakhorn

    kayakhorn Member+

    Oct 10, 2011
    Arkansas
    #26 kayakhorn, Jan 23, 2018
    Last edited: Jan 23, 2018
    @incognitoind, if the OP had described a situation where the initial thrower did a basketball pass or a one-handed toss to her teammate and the referee had called an illegal throw, I'd be right with you in suggesting a different approach to refereeing. But as described in this case, the player executed a perfectly legal throw. Nothing in the description indicated that anyone else on the field thought the thrower's intent was to have the teammate take the "real" throw. An added benefit is that the players likely learned how not to hand over the ball to a teammate.

    Of course I can envision a situation where the thrower popped the ball over her head in a marginally legal throw that looked much more like an attempt to give the ball to her teammate. Taking skill and experience into account, that might make a non-call more appropriate. The OP didn't see it that way, which is OK by me.
     
  2. Pittsburgh Ref

    Pittsburgh Ref Member+

    Oct 7, 2014
    da 'Burgh
    The throw-in that isn't might work for me, maybe once, early in the season, with a loud inservice, at U-littles, but no way in a HS game.
     
  3. 65GT350

    65GT350 Member

    Jun 25, 2015
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I can see the TI both ways and I would really need more information before calling handling. What type of JV girls game. Around here JV girls can range from u14 Rec to a solid class 3 (silver) team. The closer to Rec the less likely to call it. Who normally was taking the previous throwin. If it was the girl who handled probably not going to call it. If the situation called for a long throw and you got the feeling that the handler was the long thrower not calling it. Now if the handler has a defender closing on her I will probably call the handling. Again it really depends on the tone of the game and if the OP thought it was handling it is the correct call. I can see incognito's POV and we have all referreed with those refs who make the game about them but I don't get that impression from the OP. IMHO most referees who spend time on theses types of forums are trying not to be that ref.
     
  4. frankieboylampard

    Mar 7, 2016
    USA
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    I would also make a case coming down to the spirit of the game. Which was brought up at national camp by esse bahmarst. I honestly, think a simple delay the whistle see what happens. But I agree with icognito here. No way am I blowing the whistle. No one wants to do throw-in practice in a game.
     
  5. frankieboylampard

    Mar 7, 2016
    USA
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    In incognito's defense. I believe a simple delay of the whistle could help tons here. From the OP I read it as the player throws the balls, the other girl calls for it, and then catches it. I envision an immediate whistle. Whereas a simple 2-second delay and you can figure out what's going on. Especially, on a JV game. Just give a little delay and let the players figure it out. If I had players are under the impression she's conning the game and gaining an unfair advantage you are perfectly within your right to call the DFK. But does the game really need this whistle?

    Sounds like a yhtbt to get it.
     
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