Disagree. But I can see them curbing it by letting fans know if they do it, they will subject their club to match forfeitures or replays and empty stadium matches in the Bundesliga. I know those rules are already in place, but the DFB has to start actually enforcing them.
Perhaps. But you know how they (DFL) can overract too. If this becomes a pattern I could see them giving it up. Frankly, not sure I like it. Something to be said for ending the season the same day as everyone else.
Maybe for traditionalists. I think the DFL likes the added intrigue, extra money and extra two weeks in the spotlight. As bad as things were yesterday, let's remember that even bad publicity is "good publicity...."
He had nowhere to go but down. Imagine if that had been Sergio Garcia? He would have gotten "street cred!" LOL!!
I don't think it was that bad. Yeah, it was a pitch invasion, but the fact that there were lots of women and children just shows that those were not hooligans but just ordinary fans behaving stupidly. The media makes it sound like there were full-out riots.
True. But the LOTG do not allow for a distinction between kids, sparrows or hooligans with clubs. I think the DFL should still send a message: Wait until the whistle goes or it will cost you dearly. Replay? Hell no! Steep fine? Absofrickenlutely.
the celebrations in dusseldorf afterwards were peaceful apparently... but i have a question : were the windows in the football special back to berlin broken from the inside or outside?
i can't imagine any replay being envisaged, nor docked points, but in france the fine per se would only be moderate, and there would be a match or two behind closed doors, which also constitutes hefty financial punishment for the club but also hits the fans directly. especially when it would be their first match back in erste BL in 15 years!
I think this is about principles and the headline is the principal security for players, staff and referee. Take the Denmark-Sweden Euro qualifikation scandal. One idiot that was drunk whent out on the pidge to tell the referee 3 minutes before end of game that his decision was wrong to award Sweden a penalty. Denmark lost the game 3-0 on technicalities and missed out the Euros in 2008 but what was special was the Danish FA sued the idiot hell out for a huuge amount of money in lost income for missed Euros, the case went into court and the poor guy said it would destroy his whole life (should have thought of it before) actually the public oppinion was that he should not be fined but the Danish FA kept the case because it was a principal case, a case to secure the future security of the games. You could question that a fence would keep people out for those situations, but the organisations desided back in the start 90's to not use fences.......... so fines as the Denmark-Sweden game or the relegation games in BuLi are purely political issues.
You're comparing one referee making an extreme decision to a referee who made what seems to be a very calm and confident one here. As far as the rest of your point, I have to admit it went clear over my head. Don't get it one bit. Can you elaborate??
I am not talking about referee decisions but about political issues creating post match punishments. I am not talking about if those punishments are sound, but simply implying that there are political reasons to why the Clubs involved will be punished.
OK. That's what I thought you meant, but I wasn't sure. I honestly believe you're really putting too much stock into the "political" theory. I think I can see why you do it though.
It doesn't seem to me like the clubs and state prosecutors come down on delinquent fans like a ton of bricks. What about say the guy who cut out the penalty spot in Düsseldorf prior to game end? He ought to be sued for a hefty fine and get a lifetime stadium ban. Film those who throw flares. Ban for life. Hefty fines. Probation or prison sentences. Target the individuals bigtime. As for the relegation format, it gives some different degrees of regular season success or failure. So it really adds a lot to the regular season in interest. And the relegation battles are real thrillers. And of course means more revenue. Just don't see why that should be sacrificed over those fans. There's a lot that should be done before abolishing a format that enriches German football.
He thought the game already ended. Does he deserve a lifetime ban for that? They don't stand there with a photo smile on their faces, you know. Great. Prison sentences for those who throw flares. What will be next?
In my view, yep. Ignorance is of little account here. Coupled with a steep fine of a few thousand bucks. Well, if someone gets injured, sure, up to a prison sentence. It can be darn dangerous.
Referee Stark press charges against a Hertha player (mayhem). According to the spiegel.de the player is Lewan Kobiaschwili and slapped the referee at the neck. The DFL also took actions against Kobiaschwili along with his teammates Thomas Kraft, Christian Lell und Andre Mijatovic, who are accused to assault the referee verbally and Düsseldorfs captain Andreas Lambertz because he used a bengali fire when the match was over.
This is one of the most ridiculous posts I have ever read on BigSoccer. Ever. Mark my words: what they'll really do is ban standing, sooner or later. How that will enrich German football. And, just a coincidence of course, raise the average ticket price a lot. I can't wait to see the reaction of the people who posted all those masturbatory "why the Bundesliga is awesome" articles here in the past.
Was he on the pitch? Is he a player, security guard or ground crew? A coach? No, he's a fan! His ass belongs in a seat in Section 124, Row 12. So, yes, he gets a HEFTY fine and maybe a long ban. That will teach him and others to stay in their focking seat. Would you prefer this? Yes, it is time to ban flares and those who use them. If you don't ban them what is the deterrent from someone breaking the law? What if someone brings a knife and uses it, should NOT punish them?
His match report showed how abusive they were. How odd two of those guys were from the BL champs of complainers.
Yeah, there are only two alternatives: prison sentences for those who throw flares or stadiums will burn to the ground.