지·구 특공대 @ FC Augsburg 2017/18 [R]

Discussion in 'Korean Players Abroad' started by Gayageum, Sep 13, 2017.

  1. skimmilk

    skimmilk Member+

    Apr 22, 2010
    Texas, USA
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    Seems Koo picked up a knock. Ji returns to bench correspondingly.

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  2. skimmilk

    skimmilk Member+

    Apr 22, 2010
    Texas, USA
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
  3. aeh1991

    aeh1991 Member+

    Dec 16, 2015
    Club:
    FC Augsburg
    Ji DW is a better CF than Finnbogason? :rolleyes:
     
  4. skimmilk

    skimmilk Member+

    Apr 22, 2010
    Texas, USA
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    the gloating is a bit weird not unlike those calling Son a 5th winger when he's on the bench and given that Finnbogason was complete s*** the previous week.
     
  5. aeh1991

    aeh1991 Member+

    Dec 16, 2015
    Club:
    FC Augsburg
    We just need to get the facts right. Ji has profited from Bobadilla's and Finnbo's injuries last season.

    Ji 16/17: 34 games, 3 goals, 3 assists
    Finnbogason 17/18: 16 games, 11 goals, 2 assists.

    A striker's first job is to goals and Finnbo has been doing it better than Ji.

    IMO Ji was better for FCA as a free roaming winger / attacker or second striker rather than lone CF.
     
  6. takeuchi

    takeuchi Member+

    Jan 20, 2013
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    you can make the same case for Finns this season. Ji was out injured early in the season & Finns is taking full advantage of it or whatever.

    as a lone, traditional CF role... again, I can make a case Ji DW > Finns. under Dirk Schuster, Ji DW showed his class in that role unlike Finns. Finns was the initial starter at the start of last season & he was pretty awful until he got injured and replaced by Ji DW in starting XI.

    edit - anyways, it is rather amazing how often you & others constantly ridicule Ji DW when he is one of the very few players challenging himself in Europe. :rolleyes:
     
  7. aeh1991

    aeh1991 Member+

    Dec 16, 2015
    Club:
    FC Augsburg
    o_Oo_Oo_O From FCA's point of view your argument makes no sense.

    Also, nobody has ridiculed Ji about not challenging himself in Europe. The debate is about Ji not being the best FCA striker, not about him being a loser. I think in a weaker league like Eredivisie or Liga NOS, he'd still be able to score 10+ goals. It could be his last season in Europe tho.
     
  8. takeuchi

    takeuchi Member+

    Jan 20, 2013
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    majority of your comments lean toward Ji isn't good enough. not to mention, constantly (not just in this thread) pointing out how well his "competition" is playing :rolleyes:

    as for current, sure.. since Finns is scoring. at the same time, why doesn't it make sense? Ji DW was completely isolated on his own last season. the only time they were briefly able to move the ball forward was punting the ball to Ji & relied on his ability to win the ball + hold the ball.

    did Ji DW have the support of Finns is currently receiving this season? not even close.. especially when you consider Baier & Ji DW were the only chance creators last season. it's one thing if Ji DW missed constantly but that's not the case. as for other skills as CF, Ji DW > Finns.. even this season (aerial, 1st touch and so forth).

    edit - btw, even as "winger".. you were predicting doom for Ji DW because Teigl is good or whatever. :cool:
     
  9. aeh1991

    aeh1991 Member+

    Dec 16, 2015
    Club:
    FC Augsburg
    Nevermind...
     
  10. chook90

    chook90 Member+

    South Korea
    Jan 2, 2015
    Al Khor, Qatar
    Club:
    FC Seoul
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    I want to see Ji at Eredivise.
     
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  11. skimmilk

    skimmilk Member+

    Apr 22, 2010
    Texas, USA
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    Finnbogason is an incredibly streaky scorer. His totals are high and he's had some very good games too but they've been very infrequent (8 goals of those goals against 3 of top 4 worst defenses) and there are many games where his primary attribute is running around chasing the GK.

    My opinion of him isn't really all that different and him piling on the goals on weakest teams don't really change the fact.
     
  12. killaorca

    killaorca Member+

    AFC Ajax
    May 11, 2010
    Pacific Ocean
    Club:
    RSC Anderlecht
    Ji should come to Ulsan. Matter of fact, bring Koo with him lol.
     
  13. chook90

    chook90 Member+

    South Korea
    Jan 2, 2015
    Al Khor, Qatar
    Club:
    FC Seoul
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    Ji ------> Al Ahli Dubai

    Koo ------> Hebei China Fortune F.C.
     
  14. skimmilk

    skimmilk Member+

    Apr 22, 2010
    Texas, USA
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
  15. aeh1991

    aeh1991 Member+

    Dec 16, 2015
    Club:
    FC Augsburg
    #90 aeh1991, Dec 21, 2017
    Last edited: Dec 21, 2017
    Yes, he seems to want to keep him as a backup member given his tone.
    Although the situation for Stafilydis is even more sad. He was a undoubtable starter last season and now Max is the best LB of the league right now. Ji at least will get his chances someday thanks to versatility.
     
  16. datschge

    datschge Member+

    Feb 9, 2014
    Germany
    Remember Reuter is the hard boiled manager who managed to sell Abdul Rahman Baba to Chelsea for big money. Augsburg may sell, but not for cheap.
     
  17. aeh1991

    aeh1991 Member+

    Dec 16, 2015
    Club:
    FC Augsburg
    Somehow Ghanaians seem to get overrated by EPL clubs. Now there are rumors that several English clubs are after Opare.
     
  18. skimmilk

    skimmilk Member+

    Apr 22, 2010
    Texas, USA
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    Now Teigl is gone.

    Also Finnbogason is hurt again though that sounds minor but hopefully gets Ji some looks in training / winter camp.
     
  19. LeeSeungWoo

    LeeSeungWoo Member+

    Jun 3, 2016
    #94 LeeSeungWoo, Jan 4, 2018
    Last edited: Jan 4, 2018
    Doesnt make him any better than a few Kleague players who actually fking score as strikers.

    9 goals as a striker 2012~2018? As a FKING STRIKER? Please, stop.

    It's pretty funny how you never praise good players from Korea and always try to defend shittiest players we have.
     
  20. takeuchi

    takeuchi Member+

    Jan 20, 2013
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    12 goals overall.. and if you actually followed his career in Europe, he mostly played as "winger" & not as a striker.

    again, much easier to defend a guy who is good all around (by Korean players standard) compared to guys who scored.. what.. 3 goals for NT (til recently) while only playing as "striker" with KNT? :rolleyes:

    edit - btw, of all the attacking FWs the past 7-8 years with KNT.. only Son scored more than Ji DW w/ national team :whistling:
     
  21. LeeSeungWoo

    LeeSeungWoo Member+

    Jun 3, 2016
    #96 LeeSeungWoo, Jan 4, 2018
    Last edited: Jan 4, 2018
    I counted only Bundesliga goals.
    You are talking as if he's been playing as a defensive winger lol.
    There were a few seasons where he scored less than defenders. What a great striker/winger he is.

    Do you even math bro?
    Pretty sure HHC/SHJ wouldve scored way more if they played as many times as Ji did. "Good all around". :laugh:

    And, no. LGH scored more goals than Ji.
     
  22. takeuchi

    takeuchi Member+

    Jan 20, 2013
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    he doesn't.. both have 11 goals.

    as for Ji, yes.. he was often played as "defensive winger" by FC Augsburg.

    also, if HHC & SHJ played as much.. perhaps? but also.. perhaps not.. especially when you consider HHC & SHJs goal scoring for KNT .. even as youth players are pretty abysmal. btw, SHJ & Ji DW debuted around the same time for KNT. Suk HJ has less caps for KNT compared to Ji DW because.. for most of his career in EU.. he was a big disappointment. if you exclude his good few years in Portugal & currently in France atm, Ji DWs EU career is far superior to Suk HJ.

    anyways, while I believe Ji DW is the better option for KNT as all around CF.. doesn't mean I don't want HHC & Suk HJ to play for KNT (unlike other players such as Lee KH, Kim SW & so forth).
     
  23. LeeSeungWoo

    LeeSeungWoo Member+

    Jun 3, 2016
    No?
    LGH has 19 goals for KNT.

    And again, no. Ji played 47 times for KNT, Hwang 9 times and Suk 11 times.

    As if Ji hasnt been a disappointment for almost 6 yrs.

    Do you even know Suk scored more goals in one season than Ji did in 6 seasons? And why do you want to exclude his good seasons if you want a valid comparison? Ji doesnt even have a single "good" season as a striker. Probably his first season can be considered "good".

    Get your facts straight if you wanna continue this conversation. :rolleyes:
     
  24. takeuchi

    takeuchi Member+

    Jan 20, 2013
    Club:
    Liverpool FC

    i said past 7-8 years :rolleyes:

    and yes, Ji DW has more caps over Suk and Hwang. Suk and Ji debuted around the same year.. 2010. can't ignore Ji DW earned more caps over Suk.. simply because not only did he do well in 2011 AC but also, key contributor in winning bronze at 2012 Olympics. Suk and Ji don't have stellar EU career, at the same time.. can't ignore the fact Ji DW plays in superior league. the past 7 to 8 years, Suk struggled & constantly moved around.. which involves struggling in Holland, Turkey, Hungary and so forth. Ji DW.. on the hand, as utility player for FCA (and always praised by Reuter) found consistent mins w/ his club.

    edit - Suk is great at attacking corners, knocking down balls or running to open space (chase booted balls) but when asked to be all around CF, he always failed in EU.
     
  25. skimmilk

    skimmilk Member+

    Apr 22, 2010
    Texas, USA
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    Ji has played many matches as a defensive winger.
     

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