Чемпионат мира по футболу 2018 |Group H| 10 October 2017 : Estonia (Tallinn)

Discussion in 'Bosnia & Herzegovina' started by Sudžuka, Jun 12, 2015.

  1. PureEvil

    PureEvil Member+

    Jul 30, 2014
    California
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    Thats true, but for some reason regardless i think Mesa doesn't rate the Turkish league that highly lol. He did really well last season too but still no senior debut.

    I'd start them both up front looking at it now lol 4-4-2 style
     
  2. Kupus+Snus

    Kupus+Snus Member

    Oct 3, 2016
    Club:
    Al Ahli Jeddah
    #1752 Kupus+Snus, Feb 18, 2017
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    Bego
    Vrsajevic Dumic Zukanovic Kolasinac

    Pjanic Medunjanin

    Visca Milicevic

    Bajic Djuric

    Against Greece, switch to a 4-3-3. Pjanic, Besic, Medunjanin. Milicevic and Visca on the wings. Dzeko upfront.
     
  3. BH Fanatico

    BH Fanatico Member+

    AC Milan
    Bosnia and Herzegovina
    Aug 7, 2011
    Seattle
    Club:
    FK Sarajevo
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    is Cimirot ever going to get a chance to start?
     
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  4. PureEvil

    PureEvil Member+

    Jul 30, 2014
    California
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    Seriously wtf. He's being overlooked every time.
     
  5. podrinje

    podrinje Member+

    Borussia Dortmund
    Bosnia and Herzegovina
    Oct 10, 2013
    Bay Area!
    Club:
    Alemannia Aachen
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    Against Gibralar the kids need to be given a chance. Krunic, Milicevic, Bajic, and Cimirot need to be in the starting line up.
     
  6. BosanskiRambo

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    Manchester City
    Bosnia and Herzegovina
    Jun 4, 2015
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    Krunic-23
    Cimirot-24
    Milicevic-31
    Bajic- 22
     
  7. BH Fanatico

    BH Fanatico Member+

    AC Milan
    Bosnia and Herzegovina
    Aug 7, 2011
    Seattle
    Club:
    FK Sarajevo
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    Anyone know if Burnic at least has a Bosnian passport?
     
  8. PureEvil

    PureEvil Member+

    Jul 30, 2014
    California
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    So much potential in Cimirot but we'll still start fking haris over him. bs
     
  9. Ronaldinho321

    Ronaldinho321 Member

    Aug 19, 2015
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    we dont even have any good potential young players ******** :unsure:
     
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  10. PureEvil

    PureEvil Member+

    Jul 30, 2014
    California
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    lol our U-19 and U-21 teams are always getting rekt
     
  11. BH Fanatico

    BH Fanatico Member+

    AC Milan
    Bosnia and Herzegovina
    Aug 7, 2011
    Seattle
    Club:
    FK Sarajevo
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    Our u-17 made it to the euro and our u-19 is always in elite rounds. Our u-21 sux tho
     
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  12. podrinje

    podrinje Member+

    Borussia Dortmund
    Bosnia and Herzegovina
    Oct 10, 2013
    Bay Area!
    Club:
    Alemannia Aachen
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    hahaha I meant in relative terms, players who haven't received chances
     
  13. PureEvil

    PureEvil Member+

    Jul 30, 2014
    California
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    My only guess is half of those kids (18-20) are getting married early and starting families n shit cuz there is nothing to do over there so naturally it gets in the way of their football lol
     
  14. Sudžuka

    Sudžuka Moderator
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    Jan 27, 2013
    The biggest issue is they think they've made it before they actually make it. The overwhelming majority of these kids come from very poor and uneducated backgrounds. So they have a couple good games, media starts to hype them up, vultures start to encircle them feeding the ego, and everyone starts to act like their agent, giving advice.

    So with the better performances, they get a new contract. So now they have some spare change in their pocket, much more than their envious peers. They start to go out, flash it around, buy some designer goods, think they're rocks stars and people continue to feed their ego.

    Next, families sees dollar signs and get a new manager who promises the world to them. They tell the player to demand a new contract, gifts, bribes, etc. When clubs don't pay, they try to force a move, tell the player to refuse to attend training(the worst advice for a young player).

    So he misses weeks or months of training and games, eventually he gets a transfer abroad, most likely to some sub par central european club, but hey, more money and better training facilities. But now, the player has missed so many practices and matches that he's behind his peers and is unable to break into the team. Now he's sitting on the bench, and no one around to stroke that ego anymore. What do they do, stay and fight or go somewhere else?

    Many chose the latter, going to a new place and starting all over again. The process continues opportunities abroad eventually dry out and the player finally packs their bags and heads home trying to relive the glory days. But now they've missed out on some much that they never reach their once potential, instead stagnate and settle for reality.

    Of course there are many other factors, lack of good coaching and facilities in the domestic league contribute a lot to players failing.
     
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  15. PureEvil

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    Jul 30, 2014
    California
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    Well said man. Wasn't expecting a detailed response but good read non the less, i just hope one day they can look at the senior players and realize they don't have egos etc.
     
  16. Sudžuka

    Sudžuka Moderator
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    Jan 27, 2013
  17. Sudžuka

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    Jan 27, 2013
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  19. BosanskiRambo

    BosanskiRambo Member+

    Manchester City
    Bosnia and Herzegovina
    Jun 4, 2015
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
  20. Sudžuka

    Sudžuka Moderator
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    Jan 27, 2013
    Mesa said he would call up players who are suspended as well, so Dzeko will be included on the roster for the friendly. I wonder if he will drop Djuric. There is not need for 5 centre-forwards to be called up.
     
  21. BosanskiRambo

    BosanskiRambo Member+

    Manchester City
    Bosnia and Herzegovina
    Jun 4, 2015
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    Well he could call up Dzeko, Hodzic, Ibisevic, Bajic and Djuric. Have Djuric instead of Dzeko in the squad vs Gibraltar, and then when its time for Albania friendly just have Ibisevic drop out or something.
     
  22. BosanskiRambo

    BosanskiRambo Member+

    Manchester City
    Bosnia and Herzegovina
    Jun 4, 2015
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    Mesa said he isn't calling up Besic and Medunjanin apparently. I saw it on facebook scrolled past it never clicked the article so don't know how reliable.
     
  23. PureEvil

    PureEvil Member+

    Jul 30, 2014
    California
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    i hope he doesn't get a call up he needs to retire.
     
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  24. Sudžuka

    Sudžuka Moderator
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    Jan 27, 2013
    I saw the other day Mesa said something positive about Cimirot, could see him take Medo's play in the remaining qualifiers if he stays healthy.
     
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  25. Sudžuka

    Sudžuka Moderator
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    Jan 27, 2013
    Big concern go ahead is the majority of our CBs are barley playing for their respective clubs.
     
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