¡Hala Juve! - The 2018-2019 Other Players (and Teams) thread

Well, I mentioned league achievement because while Pep hasnt win another CL since he left Barca, Mou hasnt win another CL either since 2010. However, Pep won many league titles with Bayern and City while Mou only won 2 league titles since then. If you're talking about $$ team, Mou only won one league title with UEFAdrid. Real Madrid biggest defeat to Barca in last 20+ years was under Mourinho.

 

Yes and that's why I love him. Pep made a mistake in getting rid of him for Ibra. Let's put it this way Pep is a coward and can't handle bigger personalities than him. Also Pep if he'd have more faith in Yaya, and Eto'o he'd win back to back CL with Barca but he's ego and hollier than tou attitude cost him and Barca imo.

 

Well cause the way he lost I guess, it wasn't 1-0 or 2-1 losses was it?

If Pep would murder a child (which he has supported indirectly, knowing where his salery comes from) people still defend him. Get your heads out and smell the fresh air that isn't Pep.

Let me see Pep win PL with Leicester or Everton. His philosophy doesn't have what it takes to win titles with average players. He needs the best of the best. Simple as! Barca Bayern and City, please gimme a break. It's not like City had zero titles before him.

 

So was Liverpool but managed to humiliate Barca in Anfield no? Bayern had enough quality to compete with two squads but flopped. 3-0 against Barca was a hammering so was the 4-0 by LPB. He couldn't even beat Atletico.

Pep time in Bundesliga with an outstanding squad at his disposal was a failure imo. Bayern winning Bundesliga is as easy as Juve winning Serie A.

Also Pep is a coward for not standing up for his staff (Tito) and players during Mourinho era cowering down being afraid to take on Mourinho and LPB letting them assault Barca players left and right. No wonder Ibra called him a pussy. It was due to Pep that Barca didn't take harder action against LPB and Mourinho. Once a coward always a coward. Mr perfect! He even abandoned his friend Tito who was sick in cancer. Pathetic.

Pep is a great coach but that's it.

 

So it's players fault when Pep loses and thanks to him when his teams win? Please!!

And people here are defending him blindly just cause they like him. See what I just did? [emoji23]

 

PSG just released a statement regarding Mbappe's ambiguous remarks about his future. "For two years, a strong bond has been formed between PSG and Kylian Mbappe and this story will continue next season"

I mean, if it wasn't already obvious, he was never going to leave PSG until his contract expires most likely. He's French, playing for France's biggest team who don't care about the money cause they swim in it, and he's the centerpiece of the PSG project, plus the sponsors would much rather have him at PSG. He has every reason to stay from a financial perspective, and if PSG have a great summer transfer window, also from a sporting perspective.

I do think he'll end up at Madrid at some point, for a mind-numbing amount of money. He'll smash Neymar's world-record transfer fee by that time. Unless he regresses considerably for whatever reason. Hopefully by that time we will also have our eye on a generational attacking talent. Maybe Felix if he continues developing at the current rate? Who knows.

 

Lets see if Messi can win the PL with Leicester or Everton.

Come on... that argument doesn't make a lot of sense. If you're among the best, you will be part of the best teams.

To me what sells Pep is that no-way would Barca or Man City have been as good as they were without him in charge. That's all you can ask for from a manager IMO. Bayern could've won just as much without Pep, but even that's debatable. They certainly didn't get any better when he left.

And winning 2 CL in 10 or so years is hardly a poor record. If he had 0 then okay. If he had 4, then he would be CL King, even considering the teams he has headed. But 2 is neither great or choking.

(Though I agree the nature in which his clubs lose in CL is a bit eyebrow-raising. Getting smoked 3 (or more?) times against equal-level opponents, and losing a couple times against vastly inferior opposition (Chelsea 2012 ). But that's also a bit of the nature of Cup competitions. In the end, all that matters is how many you won, not when or how you lost)

 

There is no problem! I post something Eto'o says about Pep and people need to come defend Pep as he's the holy knight. What Etoo said was and is in a way true but.

Pep couldn't win win Bayern but Mourinho could with Porto. But no, people have to come and bring up useless and pointless shit and so called facts just to make Pep look good. Then you'll get alot of BS back. I'll say it like this, you lot DESERVE me [emoji23]

 

It'd be quite something, judging a coach by how many CL's or League titles he's won with a vastly inferior squad. You can be a god-tier tactician with an average squad and more often than not still get beaten by a decent tactician with a god-tier squad.

The coach's job is to analyze the opponent, lay out the best tactics, pick the starting line-up that is best to execute said tactics, and motivate the team to go out there and give it their all. He can't physically kick or head the ball into the net using the right technique, or time a tackle properly, or make a defense-splitting pass the with just the right amount of weight. That's on the players.

It'd be a different story if they were running around the field like headless chickens not knowing what to do.

 

Let's put it this way, Pep comes back to Barca but there is no Messi and an aging squad. Will he win La Liga, CDR and CL? Without having to spend as much as city has?

No Pep style needs fantastic players. He was lucky to coach Barca at the prime of some of the best players the world have or ever will see and manage to build himself a reputation. His philosophy is shallow and one-sided. We'll see how far he goes if other clubs in PL shape up. He's lucky coaching city when Chelsea is banned from transfers and Mourinho destroying United and Tottenham basically playing with a thin squad. This years only Liverpool could match City. Heck even Leicester won it few years back when most teams where on hiatus. Pep is wise too choose teams where he can excell.

 

Im not defending Mourinho here but I beg to differ. He won CL with Porto with a decent squad, not world class squad.

 

His statement and point is worth a recognition. Pep repeatedly has disrespected and shipped greats players throgh the back door. Eto'o, Yaya and Ibra. Remember Yaya is more of a hero to City than Pep is.

 

I think most Barca fans would welcome Pep back with open arms because he will probably make Barca better than they could be with someone else at the helm. He might have to spend €400mn to make Barca better, especially if its post-Messi, but I imagine most don't care how he gets it done just that he does.

 

Nothing to do with Pep being a coward.

Let me tell you that Ibra wouldn't have accepted being humiliated like that two years in a row. No one would dare choking like Barca did three years in a row with superior quality. Barça would have needed a Ibra character instead of a bunch of chokers dropping their wet pants down.

 

The teams you listed says it all: he lucked out with the draw. 3 of the 4 teams Porto played in the KO stage they really should be beating. Only one surprise against Man Utd, although that was one of the weaker Man Utd sides in the entire SAF era.