Fire Porter and Gulati for Olympic Failure? Adu Proves He is Ready for National Team?
Posted on April 6, 2012 3:50 am
The guys discuss whether Caleb Porter and Sunil Gulati need to be reaching for resignation pens after the US U23 defeat in Olympic qualifying. They also talk about Grant Wahl’s response to whether Freddy Adu’s U23 performance earned him a look from Jurgen Klinsmann for the senior squad. Freddy Adu better than Brek Shea? On The Straight Red Card.
I can think of a lot of other reasons Gulati might reach for a resignation pen–but this isn’t one of them.
My take on this is if you want to fire Gulati then you should fire Reyna, and if you want to fire Reyna then you should also firing Klinsmann, because it’s clear enough that this was an attempt by the latter two to impose their vision on the youth national team level when it was clear the senior team couldn’t pull it off overnight. Of course, if you do all those things, you don’t really have much of in the way of public top level “management” of the Federation left over do you?
Any less than this is just looking for scapegoats imo. I assume Porter’s gone anyway, on his own volition so I’m just moving up on the hierarchy from there.
bah, *consider firing Klinsmann* I mean. Damn typos.
Scapesheap…
(Although the animal with the bad haircut isn’t a sheep, is it?)
I believe the animal is a Llama, as one of the below poster’s seems to be pointing out by naming himself “SheasLlama.” However, for a while, I was pretty convinced it was Brek Shea himself.
Mexico fired their coach in 2008 over not making the olympics, and he was missing Giovanni, Vela, Moreno, Guardado, and Nery Castillo from the squad. So countries do take qualifying for the Olympics very seriously especially considering they play in CONCACAF.
So yes, fire Caleb Porter, hire someone with experience developing a youth program, sort it out soonish.
Porter is fired by default anyway…even if he won the gold medal!!! There is no use for a U-23 coach until prior to the next Olympic qualifications.
What would he do for 3+ years as the U-23 program…twiddle his thumbs?
Yes, Brett did point that out. Yet, a number of writers still clamored for his resignation.
Indeed so.
I find it troubling that a whole bunch of people who insist on being taken seriously on the subject don’t know that youth national team coaches are hired for a specific cycle, usually an age group world cup, and when the team is eliminated – either in qualifying or at the finals itself – said contract expires.
I’m pretty sure some coaches stay on for longer periods of time than just one cycle like Pekerman in Argentina, or Stuart Pearce in England, what i meant is that he shouldn’t be kept around to develop the next crop of U-23s.
Wreck. I’m not anointing Adu, but he played better than Shea. On that basis, he should be given a shot.
I dunno… But if you use those standards, I can see why you’d pick Adu. Shea has had a trajectory as a player the last few years and its been going up. Adu seems to have leveled out a long time ago–but who knows. Brek could level out here, and Adu could be reborn…
Gulati is elected, not hired, and I doubt the electorate who has chosen him twice is too broken up about not making the Olympics unless it affects the cash that filters down to the Utes and Ethnic leagues.
Dan Flynn is hired and could be fired, but once again, US Soccer seems to be doing fine, cash-wise, so I doubt anyone wants to rock the boat except for muckety-mucks who think a team full of college kids would have made it to London, and I think even those clowns see the writing on the wall.
fairly disappointing segment… aside from undervaluing the importance of qualifying for the olympics, you have a beef w/ square pizza as being unauthentic… i’ve been to italy several times, and have enjoyed square (sometimes rectangular) pizza on each occasion…
How did they undervalue the importance of the Olympics? They spent the last two segments telling us how disappointing it was. But they finish it up by correctly stating that it isn’t the end of the world. It doesn’t mean our future is doomed, and no one should be getting fired despite the underperformance. I’m not quite sure how that is anything but a balanced assessment with a good dash of perspective.
As for square pizza in Italy… I have seen AUTHENTIC Italian pizza in all types of oblong oval shapes, but never a perfect square. Please tell me where you got the square pizza in Italy–I wanna try some.
the olympic disaster by the nads didnt even bring ire by the nad fans. so I just take it that the nads are used to this type of choking by the nads. so why fire? just let them be
If you’re going to try and oust Mami-whats-it United as Mexie Troll of the Week you’ll have to post even more like a 14 year old…
It’s always “fire the coach” “fire Sunil” “fire someone”. These guys aren’t on the field, for pete’s sake. The whole discussion is moot if the game ends 1-minute sooner. If you look at Porter’s teams, they can play soccer, in the long run that’s what you want.
Pertaining to Gulati, it is not as if I blame him for the results of our U23, or really any results for that matter. I blame him for being a wimpy guy in general. I don’t mind my federation president talking soft, but I at least want him to carry a big stick. I want a guy just mean and nasty enough that things get done without me having to hear about how they got done.
Basically what you are saying is that you want Steve Jobs as president of the federation. hmmm
The commentary about country music was more embarrassing than the pizza talk.
Disagree regarding Adu. Why pigeon hole him? From what I have seen, that guy usually plays well for the US team and is far more consistent when representing his country than he is with his clubs. So why punish your national team by omitting him? I think it’s a silly rule that misses the point of using the players that get the results. It is like cutting off your nose in spite of your face.
If Adu plays well for the US, then let him play for the US and help you there. I think Adu is one of those rare players that will represent his national side much better than his club.
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