Ecuador have the luck of the Gods.

Discussion in 'Ecuador' started by jinks, Jun 16, 2006.

  1. jinks

    jinks New Member

    Mar 12, 2005
    London, England
    Played a very very weak Poland side, no depth to them at all. Weak going up front, open spaces in defence. Then playing a mediocre Costa Rica side, who's only strenght was in their forwards. Im not saying they dont deserve it and Im glad they are doing well but you best be praying because you couldnt have had an easier group draw. Germany will be the only test. England will definitely beat them so hope you get a good win or draw against the Germans.


    *q rico q Colombia hubiera tenido esta suerte en el mundial, jugar contra oposicion basica.
     
  2. Pibe#10

    Pibe#10 Member

    May 1, 2003
    ArmeniA
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    luck or not they are playing well, they beat Poland playing well (just like we did in the friendly) and Costa Rica is still a CONCACAF side, it was expected....the thing with England is that they are like Germany, playing horrible and all and they know how to win.....

    Ecuador is going to have to be careful with Germany, I'll give you that.....but the good thing is that they are already in the second stage.
     
  3. chibchab

    chibchab Member

    Jul 8, 2002
    New Jersey
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dude why do you have to waste so much time with bitterness?

    Poland is a strong team that cruised through qualifying and didn't deserve to loose to Germany. Costa Rica is a complicated CONCACAF side that gave Germany a challenge, as well. Ecuador are doing well by their own merits and I bet will give any team a tough challenge.

    I wouldn't be one bit surprised to see Ecuador win this group.
     
  4. Pibe#10

    Pibe#10 Member

    May 1, 2003
    ArmeniA
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    you talking to jinks right?
     
  5. betto

    betto New Member

    Mar 31, 2005
    Cary, NC
    Funny how 8 out of 10 "especialist" put Ecuador as the team w/ less changes in this group, or the weakest team. Now we have not only surprised everyone w/ our level of play, but we are first in the group over Germany the hosting nation! Isn't that remarcable?
    And now this guy's excuse is that we are in a weak group?
    Give me a break man! Why don't you put your Colombian NT shirt on and cheer for Ecuador (since we wear the same colors)? You can be like an adopted Ecuadorian for the WC!
    Also, even if this group is weak, statiscally we are playing better that Germany, the host team and one of the main contenders for the tittle, scoring the same amount of goals and receiving less goals than them.
    So far we have been able to neutralized the creative midfielders and forwards from our oponents, and taken advantage of almost every chance we have to score. We are also distributing the ball really well.
    We are playing good man! Stop hating and start supporting one of your brother nations.
    We would and we had when the shoe was on the other side.
     
  6. jinks

    jinks New Member

    Mar 12, 2005
    London, England
    Of course you will say that Poland played well against you when we know that the Polish side you played was extremely poor. They are having internal problems. They deserved to lose 5-0 to Germany seeing the chances the Germans missed. Ecuador have done well but it is an easy Group. Like I said Germany will be the strongest oppositions and we will then see PROPERLY how they play against talented teams. Thats the only way I can rate them and see them doing something to England.
     
  7. betto

    betto New Member

    Mar 31, 2005
    Cary, NC
    Well I hope that we are worth your expectations. Cause Obviously you are someone who needs to validade our game in order for the rest of the world to believe it!
    Don't try to put words in my mouth or misinterpred any of my posts. Ecuador beat the same Polish team very effectively, that same team that Germany had to suffer until the last minute to score on! Or are you going to tell me that they were a different team.
    Also if Poland played worse against Ecuador, it might be cause Ecuador plays better defense that Germany!
    Read the reviews of the press around the world man!
    and not to make excuses, but Ecuador appears to be going to make some changes for the Gremany game resting some of their key players.
     
  8. ecuafutbolfreak

    Jun 3, 2004
    Quito
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    you think Poland is basic? cmon, u beat them with 2 lucky goals. not takin anything away from Colombia, u guys r a good team too, but don't ry to belittle what Ecuador has accomplished! u say "what if Colombia was in this group"... well, it's easy to say that, but Colombia is not in, so why ponder?
     
  9. jinks

    jinks New Member

    Mar 12, 2005
    London, England
    You both are missing the point that I respect where Ecuador are. Im happy but still cant stop feeling angry at the easy draw. Colombia beat the same Polish team you faced...with a B side. Like I said 'I' will only rate Ecuador when they beat Germany or England. Polish were the most surprising poor team of the tournament, I would have thought Angola, etc. Costa Rica are defensively poor.

    And I had not mentioned before but Ecuador has the best defence in the competition, hands down.
     
  10. ecuajhony

    ecuajhony New Member

    Jan 13, 2005
    Maryland-Laurel
    Ecuador , easy group?? yeahhh right before the world cup every1 said that Ecuador couldnt have a harder group

    betto: we are first in the group over Germany the hosting nation! Isn't that remarcable?

    that tells everything!!!!!
     
  11. Neutral2

    Neutral2 Member

    Apr 30, 2006
    Germany
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    no it isn´t, only when u beat germany

    "the thing with England is that they are like Germany, playing horrible and all and they know how to win....."

    Germany plays twice as beautiful as Ecuador
     
  12. ogedei

    ogedei New Member

    Aug 20, 2005
    Not quite. Poland was a different team against Germany, mentally. If we played against Ecuador, like against Germany, the score could have been very different, not necessarily beneficial to Ecuadorians.
    I'm not taking away anything from Ecua's victory against Poland, but comparing Poland from the game vs. Ecuador and vs. Germany makes simply no sense, unless you haven't seen one or both of these games.
     
  13. ecuafutbolfreak

    Jun 3, 2004
    Quito
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    oh please, are you trying to make an excuse for that loss? Cmon, get over it bud, it happend! We beat you, and let me say, we beat you EASILY. Not because you didn't want to win (who in the right mind would want to lose intentionally!!??), or because you are a bad team, but because we are better then you, play as a team and we made Poland a bad team.
     
  14. ogedei

    ogedei New Member

    Aug 20, 2005
    :confused::confused:
    I think you either have problems with reading or with understanding.

    betto said that it was the same polish team against Ecuador and Germany. You have to be blind if you make such conclusion after seeing both games.
    I'm not excusing my team, all I'm saying is you can't compare, because the mentality of the team was very different, not that they wanted win or not, but because before the first game most Poles didn't get Ecuador seariously (especially after last years 3-0 in Barcelona), and the game against Germany was a game for prestige.
     
  15. ecuafutbolfreak

    Jun 3, 2004
    Quito
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    well, it is not just skill that wins, it is mentality too, and if your players were missing that, then Ecuador deserved to win, the end, by ecuafutbolfreak.
     
  16. ogedei

    ogedei New Member

    Aug 20, 2005
    Exactly, and that was my point.
    Poland without the spirit vs. Ecuador and Poland with spirit vs. Germany. Comperable? NO. So statement like:

    is simply not right.
    The end.
     
  17. viagoal

    viagoal Member

    Jan 5, 2005
    It was more like

    Ecuador 0-0 Poland Polska confident
    Ecuador 1-0 Poland Polska losing confidence
    Ecuador 2-0 Poland Polska losing the game and Spirit

    Ecuador winning spirit and confidence.
    The End!!
    Fin! :cool:
     
  18. betto

    betto New Member

    Mar 31, 2005
    Cary, NC
    You guys are crazy!
    Are you telling me that Poland played without spirit their first game in THE WORLD CUP?
    Come on man! his is the WORLD CUP!
    Billions of people are watching you play from all over the planet!
    Making an excuse like that is a bit pathetic!
    From now on everytime Ecuador loses, we'll use the same one! Because we played w/ out our spirits! I see that one flying!!
    What you might have seen is Poland playing frustrated against Ecuador for not being able to penetrate our defense. And a desperate-to-stay-alive Poland against Germany.
    Spirits or not they were the same players in the field!
    ta-da
     
  19. juanca

    juanca New Member

    Jan 30, 2006
    Land of the Free
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    great post viagol, you shut that dude up!

    youre 100% right. im Ecuadorian, but ill admit, the 1st 20minutes of that game belonged to poland, it was obvious that they had there "spirits" high.but, did they score? NO.....once Ecuador started to get into the game and settle down, is when things went downhill for polska and Ecuador dominated the remainder of the game (minus polands last 10minute hail mary thrust) shutting poland down and playing nice compact S. American football.

    we gutted poland.

    we did the same against costa rica. got goals early and then countered like champions towards the end to finish em off.

    VAMOS ECUADOR!!!!
     
  20. SankaCofie

    SankaCofie Member

    Aug 8, 2000
    Skorgolia
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    you know its funny... in 94 and 98 I had little problem putting on the Ecua shirt and rooting for Colombia... but now that its the other way around so many Colombians choose to be negative.

    it only makes you look stupid.

    who pee'd in your beers?
     
  21. ogedei

    ogedei New Member

    Aug 20, 2005
    That's correct.

    That's wrong. As far as I agree with the "confidence" part, I disagree with the "spirit". Poland against Ecuador was a team without the spirit which you could see in the game vs. Germany.
    Polish players were confident, because like i said earlier, they didn't forget the last years friendly, and in addition to that, polish media was saying crap, that we will win easily, etc., etc. The result was the confident polish team thought that they will win without fighting.

    Read above.

    Excuse? Don't make me laugh. Dude, read (with understanding) my previous posts and then try to make the right conclusions.

    Same players on the field, but with different mentality in both games. Let me quote again your compatriot ecuafootbalfreak: "well, it is not just skill that wins, it is mentality too, and if your players were missing that, then Ecuador deserved to win"
    Do you get my point now? Probably not, since you are focused on thinking that I'm here to excuse polish NT.

    Oh, did he?

    I wish you could finally understand the difference :rolleyes:.

    Yes, I've seen both games and I'm not arguing with this part.
     
  22. colombiatupapa'

    colombiatupapa' New Member

    Feb 14, 2005
    dallas

    no ay que ser rencorosos.... ecuador a hecho las cosas bien (menos hoy) desde que empezo la eliminatoria. yo si estoy orgulloso de lo que ha logrado ecuador. ojala que lo que hizo ecuador en este mundial nos inspire para mejorar ya que tememos tanto talento joven. ecuador con menos historia futbolistica que colombia a superado a colombia en los mudiales. solo pasamos a la segunda ronda una ves y de tercero del grupo. ecuadoe en su segundo mundial y segundo del grupo.
     
  23. Argentine Futbol

    Argentine Futbol Red Card

    Feb 21, 2003
    Old Greenwich, CT
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina

    How fast to we forget what happened in 1994 when Colombia played a USA team that didn't even have a professional league..That my friend is embarrassing!
     
  24. jinks

    jinks New Member

    Mar 12, 2005
    London, England
    argentine futbol. you forgot to mention the biggest fact, they were hosts. They werent gonna go down easy. Let me not mention 0-5 in buenos aires my friend.

    Ecuador had an easy group. Do you really think if they were up against Spain, Ukraine they would pose a threat. OR against Holland and Argentina. Dont think so. SankaCofie, I have been rooting for Ecuador but dont get angry at me when I state facts (2 games against a weak Polish squad- They aint the same team as in the 70's- and 3rd placed Concacaf team (who's only merit in qualifying was a 3-0 win over the US). People coming on here like you challenged the World and won. Its great for Ecuadorian football and I am rooting for them 100% percent but let's not be part of the unconcious population who think this was a hard group.
     
  25. ecuafutbolfreak

    Jun 3, 2004
    Quito
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    well, Poland was a team that gave Germany and England a scare, and we beat them very comfortably! don't try to ruin a good moment, and no doubt, Ecuador is now the 3rd team in CONMEBOL.
     

Share This Page