It's Still Broke... Jan 2020 Transfer Thread

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by chjoak, Sep 16, 2019.

  1. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not sure I believe the Lemar rumors unless one of Laca or PEA is sold. That said PSG is now being mentioned as a possible suitor for PEA. Claims that they would want him to replace Cavani is he is allowed to leave for Atletico. And Atletico is trying to offload Lemar to fund Cavani.
     
  2. katsimbris

    katsimbris New Member

    Jan 5, 2012
    Delaware
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sounds like a 3-way baseball trade.
     
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  3. ArsenalJake

    ArsenalJake Member+

    Feb 11, 2013
    Charlotte
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    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Can we find a buyer for Mavropanos now? Surely we can get a few million fee for our 8th choice CB?
     
  4. CarlosKaiser

    CarlosKaiser Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Jul 30, 2018
    Kansas City
    I bet we can find a club in Bundesliga 2 to take him on loan.
     
  5. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
  6. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
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    Arsenal FC
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    I would have to get some extra cash or another player in the deal but it sure does look like it.
     
  7. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    One of the few things you can realistically rely on when watching youtube videos is a feeling for a player’s speed. So the first thing I did when I saw the rumors was go to youtube. Marí is not among the fastest center backs available, but wouldn’t classify him as very slow.

    He did play all 120 minutes against Mane and Salah in the Club World Cup final, that Flamengo lost 1-0 on a goal by Firmino.
     
  8. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
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    England
    I would take lemar on loan as he can play cam and lw

    if he’s shit we don’t need to buy
     
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  9. bandwagongooner

    bandwagongooner Member+

    Dec 9, 2006
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    BFG is my favorite player of the 2010s, so getting another BFG-type player would be excellent with me
     
  10. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    He missed a lot of games after he tore his ACL in the middle of last season. In the three seasons before that he averaged more than 40 games a season, not counting domestic cups. Injury prone is not a description you can tag him with. Whether he can regain his prior form/athleticism after the ACL injury, is another question, some don’t, but even without the goal, his game against Chelsea was a pretty good start.
     
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  11. Super Llama

    Super Llama Member+

    May 21, 2006
    Seattle
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    Arsenal FC
    I'm pretty sure he's starting for Atleti so I doubt they'd do that. They're trying to get cash for Cavani
     
  12. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    If he can get back, I'd sell him if we can get over-value. He isn't a good enough defender or attacker.

    But Arteta may be able to fix that
     
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  13. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    tajes his wages and pay a couple of million
     
  14. crazy150

    crazy150 Member+

    Aug 27, 2006
    North Cuba
    I didn’t say he way injury prone, just that he does seem a little fragile to me. Am I making it up, but didn’t he have a recurring ankle issue a few seasons ago. I know he didn’t miss too many games, but thought that was the reason we bought debuchy. Anyway, I’d still sell him for the right price.
     
  15. daedalus

    daedalus Member+

    Apr 24, 2004
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    be tough for anyone to be. cazorla could take FK with either foot for funsies.

    no, you're right. iwobi wasn't/isn't the player cazorla was towards the end of his time with us. but youaare also talking about a grown ass man who was a finished product before he even walked into our doors versus a kid who had yet to be allowed consistent playing time. iwobi was/is reasonably comfortable with his off-foot, has high football IQ, and could both see AND make the passes necessary. not to knock pepe because he's now showing some good qualities and probably will come good but i still feel like we could have stuck iwobi out in the same place for not a huge loss while putting all that money to different uses.
     
  16. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    The thing about Santi is like Ozil, we only got the chance to buy him rather fortuitously.

    We can't get another Santi because we just aren't able to attract that level of player in the ordinary course of business
     
  17. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    When Sagna left Bellerin was only 19, so Debuchy was brought in to replace Sagna. Debuchy was the one who injured his ankle, clearing the way for Héctor to become first choice, which he didn’t relinquish until his ACL injury last season.
     
  18. Shen-O

    Shen-O Member+

    United States
    Jul 26, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree with that, but my main point was really that Iwobi cannot play as deep as Caz. I’m sure he’d be a nice 8 or out wide, but not deep in midfield.
     
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  19. maskito

    maskito Member+

    Arsenal
    Jan 14, 2006
    Nashville
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    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is there anything about Iwobi's play since we sold him to Everton that makes anyone think he would have been "great" for us if he had stayed? From what I've seen and looking at his stats, there's not much that makes me think he'd be anything close the player some posters think/thought he could be. Frankly, I'm amazed nobody has mentioned that we sold him for 40M GBP. That's an outstanding piece of business by any measure TODAY.
     
  20. crazy150

    crazy150 Member+

    Aug 27, 2006
    North Cuba
    His stats are easy down this year. I have no doubt we made a great sale there having sold when his stock was high after a great season. We need to do that more rather than waiting til players suck, want away, or have injury history before offloading them. I think guendouzi, Martinelli, saka, torriera are evidence to the fact that his level talent can be reasonably replaced or even upgraded.
     
  21. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
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    Arsenal FC
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    This is nonsense

    He hasn’t been replaced lol.

    We been forced to play kids instead of an experienced player. The squad has gotten weaker by a lot.
     
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  22. crazy150

    crazy150 Member+

    Aug 27, 2006
    North Cuba
    I’m not saying he has been replaced. I’m saying that talent can be found and it doesn’t have to always be expensive or obvious. So far, I’ve seen nothing from him at Everton that suggests he would be difficult to be replaced if/when the club wants to replace his contribution. I’m an Iwobi fan, but the club has to sell these assets when the price is right.

    Would you rather have Iwobi at wide left than Martinelli? I think you’d rather have Iwobi at 8/10 iirc, but emery never played him there, AW did once or twice? And I see nothing from arteta to suggest he would have played him there having started ozil every game. So if he basically would be on the bench, why would you keep him and watch his value decrease and him get annoyed at not playing?
     
  23. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    £40m because he’s home grown, which may be even more important after Brexit. Apparently the FA is looking to push the home grown quota from 8 to 12. Currently, by my count, Arsenal only have 6 over 21 home grown players and are filling in with u21s both home grown after they reach their 21 st birthday and players who will count against the non home grown quota when they reach 21.

    I've also lobbied for playing Iwobi in the middle. I would rather see him there than Willock, Ceballos, and (dare I suggest) Xhaka.
     
  24. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    I think losing all of Iwobi, Miki and Ramsey was the issue - losing any one of them was fine. But as you say, losing all 3 was too much experience.
     
  25. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Losing mikhi affected nothing

    he is washed
     

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