2019-20 Offseason Player Movement (Omnibus Edition)

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by Ismitje, Nov 10, 2019.

  1. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If they didn't have a previous visa status, they couldn't reside here until they were approved, right?
     
  2. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    Crew have claimed Fanendo Adi on waivers from FCC. They're still paying most of his guaranteed salary.
     
  3. PTFC in KCMO

    PTFC in KCMO Member+

    Aug 12, 2012
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Caleb Porter is building an MLS Cup championship club in Columbus.

    the problem is he’s building the 2015 MLS Cup Championship club.
     
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  4. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In much hyperbole there's a grain of truth, of course. But unless Zardes is transferred somewhere, or lost to injury, Adi is a backup for the Crew. Then you have Nagbe, who is clearly a step up in quality from anyone we've had at d-mid for a very long time.

    That's it. I have a hard time seeing these two players - only one of whom is a presumed starter - as being the equivalent of an attempt by Porter at reliving his glory years in Portland.
     
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  5. TheRealBilbo

    TheRealBilbo Member+

    Apr 5, 2016
    If Adi is a backup for the Crew, he could be much more expensive for them than some seem to think. Players are under contract to MLS, so MLS is using money from one of the teams to pay his salary.

    Adi's value on transfermarkt is about 900,000€. Somewhere around there (it's transfermarkt after all[emoji849]) is what FC Cincinnati could have gotten for him if they sold him outside MLS. They supposedly had offers for him from outside the league. I doubt the league would ask FC Cincinnati to take an extra $1 million hit to keep him in the league, and I would imagine that somewhere around there is what Columbus is paying for him.

    Given his salary, Columbus will have to buy him down or make him a DP. He's not on FC Cincinnati's books as a DP.
     
  6. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Columbus don't have to pay what his prior deal with Cincinnati was. Cincinnati won't have the cap hit, but since they used their 1 buyout on Adi, whatever salary the Crew agree with him on, Cincinnati pays the difference.

     
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  7. TheRealBilbo

    TheRealBilbo Member+

    Apr 5, 2016
    The only thing that makes sense for Cincinnati is Columbus picking up more of his salary than they could have recovered from selling him. If you trust transfermarkt, that's about $1 million.
     
  8. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We have gobs of Garberbucks to pay him down with. But my reading of the rules combined with the fact that some of the reporting (which could be off) has him off FCC's books this year completely leads me to believe:

    1) No one claimed him in round 1 of waivers (if a claim is made here, the highest bid wins & the prior club is on the hook, cap wise, for the remainder).

    2) We claimed him first in round 2. Which allows FCC to buy him out off book.

    Seems unlikely the Crew put up a big number in that scenario, since they are bidding vs no one. And if Cincy was more concerned about their cap situation than the buyout cost, it makes sense for them as well.
     
  9. TheRealBilbo

    TheRealBilbo Member+

    Apr 5, 2016
    Rules? We don't need not stinkin' rules...

    Anyhow, I wonder what the Gio dos Santos clause says.
     
  10. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The only thing that makes sense for Cincinnati would be a trip in the Wayback Machine that allows them to undo signing Adi in the first place. They're on the hook for his (presumed) $2M guaranteed contract in 2020. If they really thought they could have gotten a $1M transfer fee for him to a club that was also willing to take on his $2M MLS contract, well then, they should have done that.

    Of course, that wasn't going to happen.

    In short, FCC was screwed. They didn't want Adi. Adi didn't want to play in Cincinnati. But Cincinnati were contractually obligated to pay the guy $2M this season. They determined their only option was to waive him and hope some other club placed a bid to take on a portion of his salary. They'd still have to pay the rest, BUT it would all be off budget and wouldn't, therefore, affect their ability to rebuild their crappy roster.
     
  11. PhillyMLS

    PhillyMLS Member+

    Oct 24, 2000
    SE PA
    You have to have 1) someone willing to buy him that can afford his salary and 2) Adi's desire to move to said team. After his last 2 years I don't think there is anyone out there that would actually purchase him that could afford what he would want as a salary. Remember, he was being paid 2 million a year guaranteed. Outside of the big 5 leagues in Europe pretty much only the top couple teams could afford that and most of them wouldn't want Adi at this point in his career. So Cincy bought him out so that they could bring it 3 DPs that the new guys want and clear his salary charge off the books. The Columbus thing is totally unrelated to what FCC did, in that Columbus wasn't going to give them any money for Adi.
     
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  12. PhillyMLS

    PhillyMLS Member+

    Oct 24, 2000
    SE PA
  13. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
  14. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
  15. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    RSL losing their best attacker - Jefferson Savarino - at this late date is a big blow. Reportedly sold to Atletico Mineiro in Brazil for $2m plus 40% sell-on. The issue appears to be getting him closer to the Venezuelan border so he and his wife and new baby can interact with family otherwise struggling to get out of Venezuela.
     
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  16. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Quick reminder....MLS' transfer window has NOT opened yet.....
     
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  17. Dead Fingers

    Dead Fingers Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 22, 2004
    St. Paul, Minnesota
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
     
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  18. NeilB

    NeilB Member

    Mar 17, 2000
    Mount Kisco, NY
  19. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
  20. TheRealBilbo

    TheRealBilbo Member+

    Apr 5, 2016
    Step 1 complete.




    Hopefully Step 2 soon.
     
  21. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Until it comes from the team, it isn't done. ;)
     
  22. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  23. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

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