Jorge Carrascal

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  1. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
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    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    It's strange because I saw two reports after that match: One which praised him like you say, and one which said that he was lousy. I, of course, supports the second version since I watched the match. Luckily I'm not River's fan, otherwise I would break the TV. He was Horrible. And again, I really don't see anything special about him. Yes he is young, maybe he'll get himself eventually and the good news for him is that Gallardo gives him confidence, but I personally don't think he'll be any good in the future.
     
  2. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    i also watched and i disagree with you, and take care of your tv
     
  3. colombianballa91

    Jul 2, 2007
    NJ
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    A lot of the river fans seem to be happy with him and think he should bench de la cruz
     
  4. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
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    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    To be honest, I really need to change the TV, it's old. Still no excuse for Carrascal horrendous game (kidding, not horrendous but horible yes) so we'll disagree on this one. The fact that I saw many opinions like mine makes me relax that the TV maybe old but my eyes still functioning [emoji57]
     
  5. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
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    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Than a lot of River fans have low expectations I guess. Just to be clear: he's a Colombian, I wish he'll do well, I just don't think he's good enough overall.
     
  6. SoyDelMustang

    SoyDelMustang Member+

    Dec 24, 2007
    Flushing,Queens
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I wouldn’t say he was horrible but his execution and decision making left a lot to be desired. I’m not going to be harsh on him because he came from a weak league where he was a standout talent and isn’t used to the competition yet. I won’t judge him until I’ve seen him in a good run of games and see how much he improves. I’m confident Gallardo can get something out of this kid if it worked on Quintero.
     
  7. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
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    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Let's put it this way: I wouldn't like to see him in Nacional
     
  8. Azucarero

    Azucarero Member+

    May 9, 2008
    Starting along with a lot of the subs today.

    Gallardo obviously had a talking to him after his sub appearance in Libertadores, where he lost every ball he touched for 5 minutes. Much more disciplined today.

    Perhaps too disciplined though. He's lost a couple balls just for taking too long to make a decision, but his form picked up toward the end of the first half. The game has been ugly. Hopefully he gets a full 90'.
     
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  9. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
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    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Carrascal just put River up 1-0 vs. Gimnasia with a clean finish

    Good news for him considering the Libertadores Superclasico is in three days. De La Cruz is in doubt for that match (he has missed the last few games due to injury), Quintero is just barely returning to training, and Pratto is injured, so Carrascal actually has a golden opportunity to sneak his way into the game if he impresses today
     
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  10. HomietheClown

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    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Scocco set him up so beautifully on a silver platter.
    Then Carrascal did show nice composure to score.
    Plays like that are a joy for me to watch.
     
  11. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Carrascal made a beatiful play and assist to julian alvarez that was bad called by referee as offside
     
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  12. pepinointer

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    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
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  13. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Porto

    Falcao
    Jackson
    James
    Guarin
    Diaz

    River should be 2nd

    Then there is Monaco pachuca, america, and soon atalanta
     
  14. Azucarero

    Azucarero Member+

    May 9, 2008
    Falcao, James, and Jackson together scored 195. Damn impressive.

    Diaz has 2, Guarin had 19, and Juanfer had 7. I can't remember if Wason ever scored in cups. He never had anything in Liga.
     
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  15. pepinointer

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    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    #140 pepinointer, Sep 29, 2019
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    Monterrey is other that have more than 130...with dorlan, aviles, cardona.

    atalanta is still behind....they have like 35 in total....there is still enough for at least the 100.
     
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  16. Azucarero

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    May 9, 2008
    Why is Pachuca in the conversation? Chitiva's the only guy I remember scoring there before Cardona switched...

    Am I forgetting someone?
     
  17. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Luis Gabriel Rey and aquivaldo scored there......from what i remember they always have colombians...but maybe you have reason
     
  18. Azucarero

    Azucarero Member+

    May 9, 2008
    Rey was only there for a year though. And he wasn't great.

    Aquivaldo scored a bunch for a defender.
     
  19. lvbeto

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    Jul 27, 2007
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Shanghai Shenhua, over 90 (rough count) with GioMo and Guarin. I think just below Monaco on the list.
     
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  20. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
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    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Carrascal is really building a knack for scoring golazos in the Pre-Olympic tournament... hopefully this is the year he's able to fully take off for River's first team.
     
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  21. Baal88

    Baal88 Member+

    May 10, 2008
    Medellin
    Club:
    Independiente Medellin
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Joda la cantidad de pata que habria llevado mi llave si estuvieramos jugando en la calle.

     
  22. HomietheClown

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    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Developing into an exciting player.

    I am just wondering if he can be implemented into the Senior team with a proper role. Right now he is playing right behind the #9 with a free roaming role. Not sure were Queiroz will put him (or even if Queiroz is interested in calling him up anytime soon.).
     
  23. villus

    villus Member+

    Jun 5, 2008
    He's an exciting prospect but I think he's a ways away from the Senior side. He has to get consistent and perform at club level and on top of that I don't think he's ideal for the CQ system, guys like Diaz, or even Cucho when healthy just a way better fit, defends and plays wide and then you have guys like James and Quintero with if you're going to fit in guys who don't defend and don't fit the system perfectly its going to be those two imo. He's got time, but he needs to develop more and I'd be surprised to see him with the senior side within the next couple years.
     
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  24. Azucarero

    Azucarero Member+

    May 9, 2008
    Yes, he'll have to get consistent for club before he becomes a regular for the NT. Once Quintero returned, Carrascal's minutes dried up at River. His main competition now is de la Cruz, who's similarly gotten much better over the years.

    He had a similar role when he was in Ukraine. Typically, he's always offset to the left, but he naturally wants to cut in and drift toward the center. It's taken time for Reyes to allow this to happen, and it's really only possible now because Benedetti, Cetre, and Marquez have the intelligence to fill in abandoned space.

    You're both overlooking how he's played for River. When he's started big matches, with the rest of the first team, Gallardo has put Carrascal as a strict left winger. With that responsibility, he actually puts in decent defensive work, even though his stamina isn't the best.

    So, Quieroz' system won't be foreign for him. He could easily step in where Roger/Diaz are.

    Of course, like Homie said, I do think he operates best when given some freedom. We've seen Quieroz allow James to do that when he's healthy, although from the right side of the field. We have NO idea how he'll utilize Quintero, who also thrives with freedom. If Pekerman--a guy who catered to his creative players/scorers--was still coach, I think we'd see Carrascal on the roster in March.

    Until then, he's competing for left wing with Roger and Diaz, who are definites. But Mendoza and Sinisterra have also gotten shots there, and they both profile as guys Quieroz prefers.

    Oddly, Benedetti, the kid I see as the more central player, in the vain of James and Quintero, might be catching Quieroz' eye more at this point. He's been very disciplined on the wing, sticking to the right touchline and whipping in lots of good crosses.
     
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  25. HomietheClown

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    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    We are thinking on the same wavelength when it comes to all of this. I was thinking he can be used on the left or as a James type of player but as I said I am not sure if he is even on CQ radar. Even if he does get more playing time as Villus suggests.


    You know how I feel about Benedetti.
    As I mentioned in the Sub23 thread weeks ago, I think he has a chance of being called up in March if he has a really good Olympic Qualifying and so far so good on that one.
    We need creative players and right wingers to emerge and he seems to be both for Reyes.
    I hope he continues to get better and resolves his club situation.
     

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